PrimeSeptim wrote: »I would love to be able to see my characters genitalia for immersion/RP purposes.
Or at least be able to choose some new underwear styles.
The current default 'black' underwear look like cheap $1 Walmart things. A loincloth would be more immersive actually.
That first thing would bump this game up from M (recommended, but not required, to be 17+ to play) to Adults Only. In countries where ESRB gives ratings, Conan Exiles had to remove the specific parts that would lead to that AO rating.
false. A friend of mine plays conan on PC and says it still has full nudity...perhaps just the console versions were affected.
Other M rated games like GTA have full male nudity in vanilla for all platforms yet still bar female nudity which is ridiculous and a discussion for a different topic
PrimeSeptim wrote: »I would love to be able to see my characters genitalia for immersion/RP purposes.
Or at least be able to choose some new underwear styles.
The current default 'black' underwear look like cheap $1 Walmart things. A loincloth would be more immersive actually.
That first thing would bump this game up from M (recommended, but not required, to be 17+ to play) to Adults Only. In countries where ESRB gives ratings, Conan Exiles had to remove the specific parts that would lead to that AO rating.
false. A friend of mine plays conan on PC and says it still has full nudity...perhaps just the console versions were affected.
Other M rated games like GTA have full male nudity in vanilla for all platforms yet still bar female nudity which is ridiculous and a discussion for a different topic
Where on PC? In the US only partial nudity is allowed, while in Europe more can be shown. It depends on whether the ESRB covers that territory.
That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
There are several tops that already show off more than what the sai sahan top does and it is probably on par with what it looks like when characters remove all armor pieces. Hide options for each piece could open up some extremely creative builds so I can't say I'm terribly concerned what some people might do to get a rise out of folks. I am however a big supporter of options so I would also support adding in a toggle that turned all other player characters into basic npc models on the client.
I've seen some insanely clever motif/dye combos to make some very impressive outfits and I would love to see what people could come up with if they could hide pieces.
PrimeSeptim wrote: »I would love to be able to see my characters genitalia for immersion/RP purposes.
Or at least be able to choose some new underwear styles.
The current default 'black' underwear look like cheap $1 Walmart things. A loincloth would be more immersive actually.
That first thing would bump this game up from M (recommended, but not required, to be 17+ to play) to Adults Only. In countries where ESRB gives ratings, Conan Exiles had to remove the specific parts that would lead to that AO rating.
false. A friend of mine plays conan on PC and says it still has full nudity...perhaps just the console versions were affected.
Other M rated games like GTA have full male nudity in vanilla for all platforms yet still bar female nudity which is ridiculous and a discussion for a different topic
spartaxoxo wrote: »That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
There's a difference between a bra and mini skirt and the Graht-Climber, it's not just about the amount of covering that makes something more immersive but also the styling.
spartaxoxo wrote: »That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
There's a difference between a bra and mini skirt and the Graht-Climber, it's not just about the amount of covering that makes something more immersive but also the styling.
What about the Dark Shaman costume then? The top on that is literally a bra:
(Let me guess, it's got a full length skirt instead of a mini skirt, so that's different?)
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
There's a difference between a bra and mini skirt and the Graht-Climber, it's not just about the amount of covering that makes something more immersive but also the styling.
What about the Dark Shaman costume then? The top on that is literally a bra:
(Let me guess, it's got a full length skirt instead of a mini skirt, so that's different?)
Larger with a little armoring, and yes a full length skirt is different than a mini-skirt. And again, it's not about the amount of skin.
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
There's a difference between a bra and mini skirt and the Graht-Climber, it's not just about the amount of covering that makes something more immersive but also the styling.
What about the Dark Shaman costume then? The top on that is literally a bra:
(Let me guess, it's got a full length skirt instead of a mini skirt, so that's different?)
Larger with a little armoring, and yes a full length skirt is different than a mini-skirt. And again, it's not about the amount of skin.
you're grasping straws when there's not only revealing outfits but also the option not to wear armor and run around in black underwear anyway...guess you've never seen the naked farm bots running around already ruining immersion because they make any arguement against hide options irrelevant.
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
There's a difference between a bra and mini skirt and the Graht-Climber, it's not just about the amount of covering that makes something more immersive but also the styling.
What about the Dark Shaman costume then? The top on that is literally a bra:
(Let me guess, it's got a full length skirt instead of a mini skirt, so that's different?)
Larger with a little armoring, and yes a full length skirt is different than a mini-skirt. And again, it's not about the amount of skin.
you're grasping straws when there's not only revealing outfits but also the option not to wear armor and run around in black underwear anyway...guess you've never seen the naked farm bots running around already ruining immersion because they make any arguement against hide options irrelevant.
How does someone breaking TOS make the idea that someone doesn't want that to be an official part of the game irrelevant? Should we all get bots now?
There is revealing outfits, and I never once complained they were revealing. I said it over and over. But those outfits are all a lot more immersive and tasteful than just around naked look, and that's by design. They all have things like that longer skirt and the armor to ensure that. Another example is the granny panties on the Timbercrow costume, which I honestly didn't like, would have preferred shorts. Still, they are there for a reason. They want to give revealing clothing, but with certain constraints to keep them immersive and tasteful.
Just because it's inconvenient to your argument doesn't make it less true. Those other outfits were designed to be revealing, but tasteful and lore friendly. And I'm free to prefer the current art direction in regards to that.
spartaxoxo wrote: »There is revealing outfits, and I never once complained they were revealing. I said it over and over. But those outfits are all a lot more immersive and tasteful than just around naked look, and that's by design. They all have things like that longer skirt and the armor to ensure that. Another example is the granny panties on the Timbercrow costume, which I honestly didn't like, would have preferred shorts. Still, they are there for a reason. They want to give revealing clothing, but with certain constraints to keep them immersive and tasteful.
Kiralyn2000 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »There is revealing outfits, and I never once complained they were revealing. I said it over and over. But those outfits are all a lot more immersive and tasteful than just around naked look, and that's by design. They all have things like that longer skirt and the armor to ensure that. Another example is the granny panties on the Timbercrow costume, which I honestly didn't like, would have preferred shorts. Still, they are there for a reason. They want to give revealing clothing, but with certain constraints to keep them immersive and tasteful.
That Timbercrow thing is a terrible example. Because 1) it looks like a texture bug, not rational/"immersive" censoring, and 2) there's more revealing bottoms in the game, so saying that the 'bugged texture look' is to be 'tasteful' comes across as pretty unbelievable.
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
There's a difference between a bra and mini skirt and the Graht-Climber, it's not just about the amount of covering that makes something more immersive but also the styling.
What about the Dark Shaman costume then? The top on that is literally a bra:
(Let me guess, it's got a full length skirt instead of a mini skirt, so that's different?)
Larger with a little armoring, and yes a full length skirt is different than a mini-skirt. And again, it's not about the amount of skin.
you're grasping straws when there's not only revealing outfits but also the option not to wear armor and run around in black underwear anyway...guess you've never seen the naked farm bots running around already ruining immersion because they make any arguement against hide options irrelevant.
How does someone breaking TOS make the idea that someone doesn't want that to be an official part of the game irrelevant? Should we all get bots now?
There is revealing outfits, and I never once complained they were revealing. I said it over and over. But those outfits are all a lot more immersive and tasteful than just around naked look, and that's by design. They all have things like that longer skirt and the armor to ensure that. Another example is the granny panties on the Timbercrow costume, which I honestly didn't like, would have preferred shorts. Still, they are there for a reason. They want to give revealing clothing, but with certain constraints to keep them immersive and tasteful.
Just because it's inconvenient to your argument doesn't make it less true. Those other outfits were designed to be revealing, but tasteful and lore friendly. And I'm free to prefer the current art direction in regards to that.
TOS breaking bots aside there's norhing stopping someone from playing without armor anyway (some already do) and just because a hide feature is implemented doesn't mean suddenly everyone will strip down to their undies...the devs had the same concern with not wanting to implement weapon dyes for fear of fruity swords yet most people dye appropriate colors.
spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »That's what was nice about FFXIV, they had options to hide basically all your gear... they had a gear/glamour set called the "Emperor's New ..." and had pieces that basically could hide everything. But you have to remember, ZOS is a company that for YEARS believed that if they allowed players the option to dye their weapons, that everyone would be running around with pink weapons. I'm sure this same FEAR, which all know is the best motive for decision making (insert sarcasm), is what is preventing them from offering this option. They are afraid that everyone would be running around naked if given this option, just like they were afraid of the 'everyone with pink weapons' that actually never happened.
The irony is that while they were worrying that players might choose to have pink weapons their system of giving each material tier a different colour and then calling a halt to gear progression at CP160 meant we all got stuck with light red weapons for a long time, which often looked quite pink.
If anything I think the outfit system did the opposite of what they were worried about and many people dyed their rubedite weapons more realistic colours, or at least ones which match the rest of their character.spartaxoxo wrote: »UGotBenched91 wrote: »spartaxoxo wrote: »I don't know about hide chest but do agree with the rest of those
@spartaxoxo id like hide chest just for the sake of showing off all these detailed body markings they make. As of now there’s limited options that don’t cover up most of the markings.
I get that and that usage makes sense to me. But also hiding chest with these other options is also likely to result in a bunch of female characters running around in nothing but bras and miniskirts, and that's kinda immersion ruining since eso doesn't really have that aesthetic. Just not something I'd prefer to see. I kinda just want more skimpier tops avaiable for both men and women that are a bit more immersive like the Sai Sahan top.
They can already do that too. There's several costumes already available which fit that description, for example:
Or, as previously discussed, they can simply remove their top which will show the bra that's part of the character model with whatever other leg armour and other pieces they choose.
There's a difference between a bra and mini skirt and the Graht-Climber, it's not just about the amount of covering that makes something more immersive but also the styling.
What about the Dark Shaman costume then? The top on that is literally a bra:
(Let me guess, it's got a full length skirt instead of a mini skirt, so that's different?)
Larger with a little armoring, and yes a full length skirt is different than a mini-skirt. And again, it's not about the amount of skin.
you're grasping straws when there's not only revealing outfits but also the option not to wear armor and run around in black underwear anyway...guess you've never seen the naked farm bots running around already ruining immersion because they make any arguement against hide options irrelevant.
How does someone breaking TOS make the idea that someone doesn't want that to be an official part of the game irrelevant? Should we all get bots now?
There is revealing outfits, and I never once complained they were revealing. I said it over and over. But those outfits are all a lot more immersive and tasteful than just around naked look, and that's by design. They all have things like that longer skirt and the armor to ensure that. Another example is the granny panties on the Timbercrow costume, which I honestly didn't like, would have preferred shorts. Still, they are there for a reason. They want to give revealing clothing, but with certain constraints to keep them immersive and tasteful.
Just because it's inconvenient to your argument doesn't make it less true. Those other outfits were designed to be revealing, but tasteful and lore friendly. And I'm free to prefer the current art direction in regards to that.
TOS breaking bots aside there's norhing stopping someone from playing without armor anyway (some already do) and just because a hide feature is implemented doesn't mean suddenly everyone will strip down to their undies...the devs had the same concern with not wanting to implement weapon dyes for fear of fruity swords yet most people dye appropriate colors.
Aside from seriously hindering their ability to play the game. Which is why people largely don't do it, and why this request is being made in the first place. If it's so trivial to do that, there doesn't need to be changes to the system. It's already in the game.
Nah. It's not. There is something stopping people and that's not wanting to be hinder their gameplay. That is the entire reason for this request.
And there are already a ton of people running around in these kinds of outfits. So yes, there would be a TON of people running around like that. If it wasn't gonna be a popular thing to do, it wouldn't come up so much.
and if people wanna run around looking silly why should anyone stop them? Let people play how they want