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Stamwarden nerfs
Brander12
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We don't have any Breach type debuffs!
No stuns!
Major mending has a proc from 40%, Vines skill has a cast time! (oops)
Absolutely pathetic class for now, idk why you've done that. I've been playing Stam Warden for over 2 years as only class, and this is worse patch ever.
Just a question - what for we can use this class now? Templars are better healers, DK 100% better tanks, Sorcs and NBs as a DD (with lot of stun skills ofc).
I think ZOS should nerf a class like that, just disable it for some patches if u don't want to see it.
No stuns!
Major mending has a proc from 40%, Vines skill has a cast time! (oops)
Absolutely pathetic class for now, idk why you've done that. I've been playing Stam Warden for over 2 years as only class, and this is worse patch ever.
Just a question - what for we can use this class now? Templars are better healers, DK 100% better tanks, Sorcs and NBs as a DD (with lot of stun skills ofc).
I think ZOS should nerf a class like that, just disable it for some patches if u don't want to see it.
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Rhaegar75✭✭✭✭✭I sincerely hope your post is sarcastic when you describe how feeble and weak Wardens are.....they remain top of the food chain in PvP and totally OP in the hands of any decent player19 -
Marcus_Aurelius✭✭✭✭✭.they remain top of the food chain in PvP and totally OP in the hands of any decent player
You shoulm add that they are OP only against bad players.
Every decent player know how to deal with a stamwarden because they are too predictable and the lack of stuns is a very big handicap.
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Brander12✭✭I sincerely hope your post is sarcastic when you describe how feeble and weak Wardens are.....they remain top of the food chain in PvP and totally OP in the hands of any decent player
try to play it now. Statistic of PC-EU battleground says different: almost no wardens, Sorcs and NBs, sometimes DKs and Templars.
oXI_Viper_IXo
Hilarious is NA servers with forever-noobs players in there. ;D0 -
Rhaegar75✭✭✭✭✭I sincerely hope your post is sarcastic when you describe how feeble and weak Wardens are.....they remain top of the food chain in PvP and totally OP in the hands of any decent player
try to play it now. Statistic of PC-EU battleground says different: almost no wardens, Sorcs and NBs, sometimes DKs and Templars.
oXI_Viper_IXo
Hilarious is NA servers with forever-noobs players in there. ;D
In your post you refer to Statistic of PC-EU battleground says different: can you share the data and clarify how you interpret it please?
Edited by Rhaegar75 on June 24, 2021 9:19AM6 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why would you need a stun on a stamden, slot dawnbreaker and go to town on ppl with subassault. That raging combo with all the heals and tankiness they have available to them...how can anyone say that stamdens need a buff...thats waow..
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Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I find lag has a big impact on them.
I was running spin-2-win, but switched to a targeted ability instead (Dizzying) because I was finding with the current Cyro lag and the speed meta, those short-range AOE abilities just kept hitting nothing (beetles/DB/Spin2Win).
I'm not a great player at all and fairly new to the class, but landing the combo in a laggy cyro seems to be largely a luck game, and more than a little frustrating.. :-(
Survivability/sustain is good though!
Minalan owes me a beer.
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Minie Mo - Stam/Magblade - DC
Woody Ron - Stamplar - DC
Aidee - Magsorc - DC
Notadorf - Stamsorc - DC
Khattman Doo - Stamblade - Relegated to Crafter, cos AD.0 -
Brander12✭✭Rhaegar75 I'll give you screenshot of some BG, see yourself how it been occupied by surcs and NBs0
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Brander12✭✭Why would you need a stun on a stamden, slot dawnbreaker and go to town on ppl with subassault. That raging combo with all the heals and tankiness they have available to them...how can anyone say that stamdens need a buff...thats waow..
because with my 380 ping started to be unplayable as stam warden since Blackwood.
Stun meta patch for a character without stun is nonsence.0 -
Casul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Only thing I wish for warden was that cutting dive (and SCR) were either faster or undodgeable again. That move could be good but everyone just reaction rolls it cause of the travel speed.PvP needs more love.0 -
Lughlongarm✭✭✭✭✭Actually I'm interested to see how Stamden will perform without the Life steal bug which got fixed today.0
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Brander12✭✭Lughlongarm wrote: »Actually I'm interested to see how Stamden will perform without the Life steal bug which got fixed today.
you won't see them in BGs anymore.0 -
Vizirith✭✭✭✭1: Run BB SnB with pierce armor, most classes don't have access to it either:
StamDen: None
Stamplar: Minor fracture from PoTL
StamSorc: None
Stamcro: None
StamDK: Major fracture from noxious breath
Stamblade: Major fracture from mark, minor from surprise attack
2: Run Dswing if you don't want to keep running the warden cc:
StamDen: Arctic blast
StamDK: Fossilize but most run dswing and save a slot
Stamcro: None
Stamsorc: Streak but is a weaker burst cc than arctic and dswing most of the time
Stamplar: Javalin
Stamblade: Surprise attack from flank
3: Most classes have no increase to heals... plus it's a passive unlike frag shield:
StamDen: maj mending for 3 secs whenever ally/self healed under 40%, +2%healing done (BB with only vines slotted), *Special mention: vines also synergizes very well with mag/stam gen passive for up to 500 mag or stam recovery
StamDK: High cost mag skill for maj mending for 5 secs, +12% healing recieved when volatile armor active
Stamsorc: None
Stamblade: None
Stamplar: +8% healing done, up to 12% healing done of extended ritual (often only slotted restoring light ability)
Stamcro: +2% healing recieved (BB with only 1 bone tyrant ability summoners armor), +3% healing done if mortal coil slotted, +8% healing done if negative effect, the crit heal increase thing0 -
taugrim✭✭✭✭✭IMO with the changes in Blackwood, Stamden has been brought to reasonable balance.
What I've noticed in higher-end MMR BGs is that Sorcs are doing very well in Blackwood, moreso than pre-Blackwood (where they were already good). Mage's Fury is such a great conditional ranged execute.
Necros continue to do well and have the best class ultimate for PVP with Goliath.
I've been bouncing between my Stamden and StamDK. It's a tradeoff of mobility/healing vs CC/debuffs.
So my overall sense since joining ESO a year ago is that PVP, at least in BGs, is the most balanced I've seen it.PC | NA | CP 2.2k- Active: Dark Elf Stamina Templar | Dark Elf Stamina Necromancer
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nukk3r✭✭✭✭✭
✭Just a question - what for we can use this class now? Templars are better healers, DK 100% better tanks, Sorcs and NBs as a DD (with lot of stun skills ofc).
I think ZOS should nerf a class like that, just disable it for some patches if u don't want to see it.
Don't use it and tell your friends not to use it. Ask your friends to tell their friends.
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