Rapport - Mirri and Bastian - what increases it and decreases it - list here

Cireous · June 2021

aipex8_ESO wrote: »

Spoke with Sotha Sil during the Summerset main quest and Mirri asked what he told me and gave me a rapport increase (don't know how much).

I really don't want to do the Summerset main quest all over again to figure out that rapport number, lol ---should anyone do so, please let me know which specific quest this is and what the rapport increase is and I will add it to the list. Nice find, though, thanks!

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

Tested Give To The Poor again. He got XP, but no rapport.

Tested Lightbringer again. XP, but no rapport.

Accidentally stole something out of a backpack and got -15, but the addon split it into -5 and -10. I think it's because I had auto loot on, and looking got me the 5 and taking got me the 10.

Alphawolf01A · June 2021

I know it's already known that using the Blade of Woe lowers Rapport. What I don't get is, I can kill "red" enemies all day long and that's fine, but if I use Blade of Woe on one of them, it's treated as a bad thing and lowers Rapport. I didn't kill an innocent person, so why the negative Rapport for a legit enemy. So much for sneaky stealth kills in enemy camps when a companion is present.

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

Alphawolf01A wrote: »

I know it's already known that using the Blade of Woe lowers Rapport. What I don't get is, I can kill "red" enemies all day long and that's fine, but if I use Blade of Woe on one of them, it's treated as a bad thing and lowers Rapport. I didn't kill an innocent person, so why the negative Rapport for a legit enemy. So much for sneaky stealth kills in enemy camps when a companion is present.

I'm guessing the rationale here is the evilness quotient of the method. The Blade of Woe is a dark scary magical artifact of pure badness, and Goody Two Shoes #1 and #2 don't like to see you using it. Or perhaps engaging in a proper fight is fair, but sneaky murder is dishonourable. Who knows. Feel free to set your enemies on fire or rain arrows on them, but slitting throats is just uncalled for.

Alphawolf01A · June 2021

ectoplasmicninja wrote: »

Alphawolf01A wrote: »

I know it's already known that using the Blade of Woe lowers Rapport. What I don't get is, I can kill "red" enemies all day long and that's fine, but if I use Blade of Woe on one of them, it's treated as a bad thing and lowers Rapport. I didn't kill an innocent person, so why the negative Rapport for a legit enemy. So much for sneaky stealth kills in enemy camps when a companion is present.

I'm guessing the rationale here is the evilness quotient of the method. The Blade of Woe is a dark scary magical artifact of pure badness, and Goody Two Shoes #1 and #2 don't like to see you using it. Or perhaps engaging in a proper fight is fair, but sneaky murder is dishonourable. Who knows. Feel free to set your enemies on fire or rain arrows on them, but slitting throats is just uncalled for.

I know! Right?
My enemies should take comfort in the fact that, as I wolf out and eviscerate them with my clays and teeth and feed on their dead bodies, at least I didn't kill them with a dagger, because my companion wouldn't approve of it.
LOL!!

newtinmpls · June 2021

Just got a bonus on Rapport for Mirri; looked in a trunk and found a Lillandril blue summer sausage recipie; can't remember anything else specific that was in the trunk

SteveCampsOut · June 2021

Cireous wrote: »

+125 Completing Ashlander daily quest for Numani-Rasi (occasionally bugged and giving no rapport)

Regarding Miri's Ashlander Rapport. On EU She got it from the male quest giver, on NA she got it from the female. I'm guessing so you'll always waste time doing both?

dvcod · June 2021

I know this is probably a dumb question but with Mirri what do you mean by "Completing each personal quest"....thanks...this is a great thread!!

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

dvcod wrote: »

I know this is probably a dumb question but with Mirri what do you mean by "Completing each personal quest"....thanks...this is a great thread!!

When you raise her rapport high enough she gives you a personal quest. Completing it gives a big rapport boost. Raising her rapport some more will give another quest, which also awards a big chunk of rapport.

dvcod · June 2021

I see....thanks so much ectoplasmicninja...have a great week!!

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

You're welcome, you too! (And it's the same with Bastian as well.)

feyii · June 2021

Regarding the Ashlander Relic Dailies for Mirri, I did one quest per day for the last week and only once did I not get a rapport increase. This was also the only time that I handed in the quest less than 18 hours after the one from the previous day.

So my assumption is that they simply have a really long cooldown (probably 20+ hours). Maybe someone else can check, when they don't get rapport, how long ago their previous quest was handed in.

RumpleNJ · June 2021

I'm still wondering wwhich non-guild daily Bastian gets. Surprised nobody has found it yet.

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

Me too - something in Summerset would make sense given his affinity for magic, or the Bards College because he says he likes to play the lute, but I haven't even gotten a vocal reaction on any of that yet far less a rapport increase. This is driving me nuts.

Maelstroa · June 2021

Gaining Rapport for Mirri from Numani-Rasi's Ashlander Relic Daily is super bugged and 3 out of every five times I do the quest I have gotten nothing...

Zo$, fix your damn game and give us a full and complete list of what works and what does not for Rapport.. It is more interesting and rewarding than your weak storylines and reused plots..

attackofjack · June 2021

I've tested out a bunch of dailies for Bastian with no success on the raport:

-Summerset (including the geyser daily)
(I actually did these 2 days in a row in case of a glitch because I figured these were the most likely)

-Murkmire (not including root whisperer)

-N Elsweyr

-Daily Writs

-Turning in BG daily & opening IC daily coffer rewards (he's imperial, I had to try)

-Elsweyr Prologue Dailies (I only did one, but there's no "last one for the day" special quest)

-All 3 W Skyrim dailies

-All 4 Reach dailiies

-All 4 Vvardenfell dailies

Hopefully this helps narrow it down if anyone else wants to give it a go

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

I wondered if advancing in the Psijic Order would give points for him instead of a daily, because of his whole magic thing, but nope. Nor collecting instruments for the Bards' College, nor visiting the completed collection. The fact that he doesn't even have vocal reactions for these activities that are extremely pertinent to his expressed interests is honestly really disappointing. Bastian 100% got shafted in the characterization department and I don't like it.

RumpleNJ · June 2021

Yeah, because when you go to do the ashlander ones, Mirri always comments about being there and her mom.

I like moving her fast, but it really pokes my OCD that he is so far behind, lol.

Miniminotaur138 · June 2021

The repeatable quests in Craglorn also DID NOT advance rapport.

Jaimeh · June 2021

Visiting Artaeum and the library didn't work for me, I tried a couple of times for each in case there was a cooldown but I didn't get the increase. Will try again. After the library I went to the palace to see if Mirri would have a unique dialogue seeing Vivec, she didn't though, that would have been nice.

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

Jaimeh wrote: »

Visiting Artaeum and the library didn't work for me, I tried a couple of times for each in case there was a cooldown but I didn't get the increase. Will try again.

When you go to Artaeum, you have to walk away from the wayshrine and run around for 30 seconds or so before it pops up, at least in my experience. It seems like there's a long cooldown on that but I can't be sure exactly with the irregular times I play.

feyii · June 2021

feyii wrote: »

Regarding the Ashlander Relic Dailies (Numani-Rasi) for Mirri, I did one quest per day for the last week and only once did I not get a rapport increase. This was also the only time that I handed in the quest less than 18 hours after the one from the previous day.

So my assumption is that they simply have a really long cooldown (probably 20+ hours). Maybe someone else can check, when they don't get rapport, how long ago their previous quest was handed in.

Ok, I got to test this out some more by myself and so far it has been consistent - handing in a second quest within 20 hour after the first never gave me rapport. Whenever I waited more than 20 hours before handing in another quest, I did get rapport. Doesn't look bugged to me, just a loooong cooldown.

SteveCampsOut · June 2021

Has anyone found Bastian's 2nd 500 Rapport Quest trigger yet?

Cireous · June 2021

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Has anyone found Bastian's 2nd 500 Rapport Quest trigger yet?

Nope.

Khenarthi · June 2021

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Has anyone found Bastian's 2nd 500 Rapport Quest trigger yet?

Yes, at around 2800 rapport. It does exist, just takes long to get there.

As for Mirri's Ashlander daily quests, I confirm the same findings as @feyii - there is a 20 hour cooldown to get rapport using that quest.

Cireous · June 2021

Cireous wrote: »

SteveCampsOut wrote: »

Has anyone found Bastian's 2nd 500 Rapport Quest trigger yet?

Nope.

Oh, I'm sorry, I must have quickly skimmed this sentance and misread it. I thought you were asking if anyone has found Bastian's second daily quest, which no one has... it seems.

Jaimeh · June 2021

ectoplasmicninja wrote: »

Jaimeh wrote: »

Visiting Artaeum and the library didn't work for me, I tried a couple of times for each in case there was a cooldown but I didn't get the increase. Will try again.

When you go to Artaeum, you have to walk away from the wayshrine and run around for 30 seconds or so before it pops up, at least in my experience. It seems like there's a long cooldown on that but I can't be sure exactly with the irregular times I play.

Thanks for the heads up, I got it today. I think that there was definitely a long cooldown at play there.

Regarding rapport quests, kinda weird that Mirri's second quest triggered right after the first one, and Bastian's didn't, even though I'm trying to level their rapports similarly. At first I thought it might be a bug but apparently, Bastian's second quest appears further down.

ectoplasmicninja · June 2021

Jaimeh wrote: »

Regarding rapport quests, kinda weird that Mirri's second quest triggered right after the first one, and Bastian's didn't, even though I'm trying to level their rapports similarly. At first I thought it might be a bug but apparently, Bastian's second quest appears further down.

The Xbox patch notes say that Mirri will now take some time to get to know you better before giving you her second quest, so it looks like that's changed now - unsure whether it was a bug or they just decided to alter it due to confusion. But yeah, she would give you the second quest immediately as you concluded the first, while Bastian takes his sweet time contemplating life and the universe first. I thought the difference was pretty characteristic of their personalities tbh.

Alphawolf01A · June 2021

Since the patch on Xbox, I no longer get rapport from Mirri with the Ashlanders relic daily.
A guildie also confirmed no rapport for those quests.

(Yes, we are both aware of the 20 hour cooldown) Just incase someone asked. LOL

Cireous · June 2021

Just checked on PC. I DID get the 125 rapport for Mirri.