PVP is for people with brain too ! Return procs !
AyaDark
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Some people write about some funny word skill for PVP, but it really is not true.
If they are so skilled, why some proc set do any problem to them ?
The real reason is more simple:
1) Some people have slow down of the game and it just do not normally work.
2) Some classes are OP, whyle others are not.
3) If you need only press 1 button faster in pvp, like in other Korean game with just the same gear, where is TESO here ?
Some skills do not work, target is broken for 2 years, some attaks do not strike from correct direction even if you do it right, just geo data problems.
People have different ping.
People compensate all of this problems with sets.
Now you turn it off.
And ???
What the trash is it now ?
Do not you understand that some people just can not press button because game works like this ?
https://youtu.be/VCMy1WMIE00
This play already was unplayable.
But peoples with brain can do something about this.
What do we have now ? Game for 1 button spammers (they name it skilled game sorry), whyle other players just can not press skills ? (Because they just do not press like on video before)
You remove any skilled play in this game !!! Whyle one players can play normally, others have hard slow downs and not working skills !
In prime time game is the same unplayable as before ! Nothing changed.
Some stupid test only, now even sets that we farm are disabled.
We have not got money to remake our gear each time for your tests on LIVE server !!!
You have TEST server - do TESTS there !!!
I did not use new sets, just because i think : may be it will be reworked.
So i am in sets of 2018-2016 year !!!
But ZOS just say: NOPE we just disable ALL sets !
Stop killing the game already !!!
Edited by AyaDark on March 8, 2021 5:05AM If they are so skilled, why some proc set do any problem to them ?
The real reason is more simple:
1) Some people have slow down of the game and it just do not normally work.
2) Some classes are OP, whyle others are not.
3) If you need only press 1 button faster in pvp, like in other Korean game with just the same gear, where is TESO here ?
Some skills do not work, target is broken for 2 years, some attaks do not strike from correct direction even if you do it right, just geo data problems.
People have different ping.
People compensate all of this problems with sets.
Now you turn it off.
And ???
What the trash is it now ?
Do not you understand that some people just can not press button because game works like this ?
https://youtu.be/VCMy1WMIE00This play already was unplayable.
But peoples with brain can do something about this.
What do we have now ? Game for 1 button spammers (they name it skilled game sorry), whyle other players just can not press skills ? (Because they just do not press like on video before)
You remove any skilled play in this game !!! Whyle one players can play normally, others have hard slow downs and not working skills !
In prime time game is the same unplayable as before ! Nothing changed.
Some stupid test only, now even sets that we farm are disabled.
We have not got money to remake our gear each time for your tests on LIVE server !!!
You have TEST server - do TESTS there !!!
I did not use new sets, just because i think : may be it will be reworked.
So i am in sets of 2018-2016 year !!!
But ZOS just say: NOPE we just disable ALL sets !
Stop killing the game already !!!
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merevie✭✭✭✭✭Apparently without proc sets the lag is worse. Going to be fun for us down-under folks. My friend has made a t-shirt this week with the 999+ and 3 red bars on it for sale. Going to be popular. Cry or laugh, I guess.2
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AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭If they do such tests - give free gold sets than.
I have good PVP setups - but ... i can not change it each their tests.
It is too expencive in first place !!! Sets are not free to change them just for tests.
+ It really lag like hell.
Game is unplayable in prime time in PVP - it hardly lags even in PVE !!!
It is possible to play only deep in the night - and it is like 2 different games.
In the night it is perfect.
But all other time - SKILLS DO NOT PRESS !!!
I just want them to understand this.Edited by AyaDark on March 8, 2021 6:25AM3 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
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You have TEST server - do TESTS there !!!
They cant do a test like this on the test server because no one goes there to PVP in the numbers needed to make it a valid test. It HAS to be done on the live server.
The lag in this game is weird. There is times when it makes no sense.
Ive been in big battles where it becomes a slide show and you cant bar swap or press skills.
Ive been in a scroll run where everyone froze and rubber banded every 5 seconds
There have been some really big battles in the test where I had no problems pressing skills or bar swapping at all
Then I go out into the middle of no where with no one around and I cant hit a thing or kill and NPC.
Ive taken a resource with 2 other people and it was so laggy even the NPCs had lagged skills, lost aggro and I couldnt hit a skill to save my life
There doesnt seem to be a ryme or reason except when certain groups get on the server, latency shoots up 100-150 points and it lags.Edited by Katahdin on March 8, 2021 6:31AMBeta tester November 20132 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭They already say - PROCS do not MAKE lags.
So it is already no POINT in this tests.
And if people like some tests - use TEST server.
Now it is abusing of some game style to other players - nothing more.
I buy the game I pay for it not to test it on LIVE server.
I do test on PTS and even write what bugs i found - on forum - no one cares.
But on LIVE i want to play ! Not to test. And i pay for it.
All work so bad that the only thing I can do shower my muddy altmer in bath and try to PVP with mobs in vSP - and even in vSP skills do not work some times.
In Cyrodiil i can not just even press anything.
And it is not about tests already - tests do not work like this.
https://youtu.be/erjv0DJ7D_c
It already looks stupid. It do not help. we already know a lot of real probems - but they just do not fix !!!
Target - do not work for 2 years.
Skills do not work for years.
No point in such tests.
It is not hard to test what sets are buged - i can do it solo.
As example just test on big ammount of mobs set Azurblight:
https://youtu.be/Y4TdRqllxwY
You do not need all players test for it.
But they just do no fun for a lot of players who play the game.Edited by AyaDark on March 8, 2021 6:54AM2 -
Artorias24✭✭✭✭✭
✭The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?8 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nobody tests Cyrodiil in the test server, it's not like a secret you can test PVP there... no one does it and then is in complete shock when something is busted in a new update... like lol... what you thought those 3 people dueling in front of Alessia on PTS was going to give Grey Host like conditions?0 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭No funArtorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
No fun in 1 button play.
Korean MMO - 1 button play only 1 set up.
The difference why 1 can do damage and other can not is about 1 can press skill 10 times and it will work 9 times.
Other will press skill 10 times it will work 1 or 0.
And it is no damage for free.
Procs can be purged. Then player who use procs can not attack whyle CD normally. He have less stats so his healing is worse.
Game already was balanced.
The only reason why people say about no brain "skilled" pvp - is when really weak players - who name themselves skilled kill weak players or kill players - when they get hard lags.
If skilled players can not kill proc set user -he just is not skilled at all.
And all this is about is when weak players kill players in lags and name themselves "skilled"0 -
AhSeLYaG✭✭✭İ am only playing magblade in pvp either as a bomber or ganker. ; if they remove vic death or caluurion and leave the class as the worst pvp class for everything 😁 bb Eso0
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Artorias24✭✭✭✭✭
✭No funArtorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
No fun in 1 button play.
Korean MMO - 1 button play only 1 set up.
The difference why 1 can do damage and other can not is about 1 can press skill 10 times and it will work 9 times.
Other will press skill 10 times it will work 1 or 0.
And it is no damage for free.
Procs can be purged. Then player who use procs can not attack whyle CD normally. He have less stats so his healing is worse.
Game already was balanced.
The only reason why people say about no brain "skilled" pvp - is when really weak players - who name themselves skilled kill weak players or kill players - when they get hard lags.
If skilled players can not kill proc set user -he just is not skilled at all.
And all this is about is when weak players kill players in lags and name themselves "skilled"
How is no procs one button Play? You need to press more buttons then with procs. With procs i press ele drain and apply vate destro dealing 1k dot, restoring magicka and reducing targets physical and spell resist. And it doesnt cost me anything. That is one button play.
Proc sets are the biggest carry ingame. Where is the skill in that when 70% of your damage done is your proc set? Literally your armor doing the job for you while you can semi afk watch a movie.7 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭İ am only playing magblade in pvp either as a bomber or ganker. ; if they remove vic death or caluurion and leave the class as the worst pvp class for everything 😁 bb Eso
You can still gank, 5pc Julianos, 5pc Spinners, two 1pc monster sets that do spell damage... or you could do 2pc willpower.0 -
AhSeLYaG✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »İ am only playing magblade in pvp either as a bomber or ganker. ; if they remove vic death or caluurion and leave the class as the worst pvp class for everything 😁 bb Eso
You can still gank, 5pc Julianos, 5pc Spinners, two 1pc monster sets that do spell damage... or you could do 2pc willpower.
İs this a joke? Even with war maiden and spell strategist its very very hard to gank some one with 30 k hp ( nearly all) or with any shields and with a class with no timed / delayed burst skill no class heal i cant imagine myself in cyro anymore . İ worked very hard to complete that caluurion set İ love my wild hunt ring İf they re taking them away i wont be paying a penny anymore unless they rebalance the class to a point where stamina necro warden or mag sorc performs.0 -
Artorias24✭✭✭✭✭
✭OtarTheMad wrote: »İ am only playing magblade in pvp either as a bomber or ganker. ; if they remove vic death or caluurion and leave the class as the worst pvp class for everything 😁 bb Eso
You can still gank, 5pc Julianos, 5pc Spinners, two 1pc monster sets that do spell damage... or you could do 2pc willpower.
İs this a joke? Even with war maiden and spell strategist its very very hard to gank some one with 30 k hp ( nearly all) or with any shields and with a class with no timed / delayed burst skill no class heal i cant imagine myself in cyro anymore . İ worked very hard to complete that caluurion set İ love my wild hunt ring İf they re taking them away i wont be paying a penny anymore unless they rebalance the class to a point where stamina necro warden or mag sorc performs.
With the new CP and changes they made most ppl will have below 2k crit resist so ganking will be more easy with high crit builds. On PTS i was duelling Nightblades on crit builds that dealt 10k concealed weapon and 13k+ crit bow. So i am pretty sure you can gank good with a crit build.1 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »No funArtorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
No fun in 1 button play.
Korean MMO - 1 button play only 1 set up.
The difference why 1 can do damage and other can not is about 1 can press skill 10 times and it will work 9 times.
Other will press skill 10 times it will work 1 or 0.
And it is no damage for free.
Procs can be purged. Then player who use procs can not attack whyle CD normally. He have less stats so his healing is worse.
Game already was balanced.
The only reason why people say about no brain "skilled" pvp - is when really weak players - who name themselves skilled kill weak players or kill players - when they get hard lags.
If skilled players can not kill proc set user -he just is not skilled at all.
And all this is about is when weak players kill players in lags and name themselves "skilled"
How is no procs one button Play? You need to press more buttons then with procs. With procs i press ele drain and apply vate destro dealing 1k dot, restoring magicka and reducing targets physical and spell resist. And it doesnt cost me anything. That is one button play.
Proc sets are the biggest carry ingame. Where is the skill in that when 70% of your damage done is your proc set? Literally your armor doing the job for you while you can semi afk watch a movie.
It always was 1 button play.
You only have 12 skills in teso to start with.
In other MMO you have skill for each situation like 3*12+3*10 skills.
Hear you only have spammable. In pve some DOT more powered skills and buffs.
In pvp you have spammable - some buffs to get better stats - heals. To make more damage some times people put dots to negate healing of other players and do combo.
So some times they even have not got slot for stun.
So all skilled game is about:
He buffed.
He try to open offbalance state to do HA to stun you with skip (that already is a bug - becouse you do not see skipped animation).
Then 7 seconds he will try to burst you then 14 seconds no real danger.
Repeat 100 times untill 1 get lag.
Procs give some different random factor, not random like in korean games with - just donate to get more stun chanse.
It is skilled prediction to make 2 different effects work the same time - to make danger situation to enemy he do not expect.
Now all pvp is - 7 second oofbalance window - OK - it ends - he wait my window - ok.
Skills do not press - ok i will use shield ultimate now. It do not press, ok hm may be i will try to use potion than.
Now i need to use potion i hear sound of potion good.
And i get stun - why ? Oh it did not work ... nice i am dead.
Very skilled ... skilled like calculate 2+2.
Some classes are overperforming like sorcs.
You not only get lags but with broken target you even are not sure that you will hit him or it just lag and you hit pet.
target do not work already 2 years correct.
Not in PVP in PVE too = it is hard to play TANK some times you can not pull or agr MOB you want !!!
What skill is it about ?
Skill to lag opponent to death ? Skill to have better ping because you born near server or what skill ?0 -
AhSeLYaG✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »OtarTheMad wrote: »İ am only playing magblade in pvp either as a bomber or ganker. ; if they remove vic death or caluurion and leave the class as the worst pvp class for everything 😁 bb Eso
You can still gank, 5pc Julianos, 5pc Spinners, two 1pc monster sets that do spell damage... or you could do 2pc willpower.
İs this a joke? Even with war maiden and spell strategist its very very hard to gank some one with 30 k hp ( nearly all) or with any shields and with a class with no timed / delayed burst skill no class heal i cant imagine myself in cyro anymore . İ worked very hard to complete that caluurion set İ love my wild hunt ring İf they re taking them away i wont be paying a penny anymore unless they rebalance the class to a point where stamina necro warden or mag sorc performs.
With the new CP and changes they made most ppl will have below 2k crit resist so ganking will be more easy with high crit builds. On PTS i was duelling Nightblades on crit builds that dealt 10k concealed weapon and 13k+ crit bow. So i am pretty sure you can gank good with a crit build.
Please dont understand me wrong. But bow on a gank build?😀 ok i ll light attack you5 times and then i ll send u a projectile so pls dont move.
İ am not fun of 40 k hp builds still dishes out damage and unkillable .
But in case of magblade with julianıs and spinners i better dont play if i ve no other option.
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✭Artorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
I mean when classes are imbalanced it can be lol0 -
Scardan✭✭✭✭✭Hey, OP, proc sets are still available in PvP: BG and IC.Let's be extremely precise in our use of terms.0 -
yeyesil✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
I tried no proc cyrodiil with full stat build and light armor. So offensive and squishy. Noone can kill each other. Good players know each other and ignore each other. This playstyle you call skilled game is just a trash. Noone can kill each other with HP recovery or Max stat sets. This game changed a lot since the beginning. You can only kill xv1 or with a zerg. Is it a skilled game? I play in PC-EU.1 -
AyaDark✭✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
I tried no proc cyrodiil with full stat build and light armor. So offensive and squishy. Noone can kill each other. Good players know each other and ignore each other. This playstyle you call skilled game is just a trash. Noone can kill each other with HP recovery or Max stat sets. This game changed a lot since the beginning. You can only kill xv1 or with a zerg. Is it a skilled game? I play in PC-EU.
I think the same.
Kill noobs - run from others.
New understending of skilled play in TESO.
Nothing to be really proud.
Procs are bad !!! They make noobs more dangerous !!!
Bottom breakers !!!
I always run to 1 x 10. I do not run like cowward near tree.
Skilled play is kill and die. Not to fight noobs. not to run other good players.
Nope - they just want kill noobs and name themselve "skilled".
Procs was a problem - to hard to kill a NOOB - who just do not know what to do or is much less in CP.
Or fight 2 ALLY against one when no people in it.
And get destroyed with 2 more people when people comes> OH my so skilled ! Procs was bad.
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Kory✭✭✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
That's really what it comes down to. It's different, and in my opinion how pvp should be. Regardless I'm having fun in no proc Cyradil.0 -
Artorias24✭✭✭✭✭
✭Artorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
I tried no proc cyrodiil with full stat build and light armor. So offensive and squishy. Noone can kill each other. Good players know each other and ignore each other. This playstyle you call skilled game is just a trash. Noone can kill each other with HP recovery or Max stat sets. This game changed a lot since the beginning. You can only kill xv1 or with a zerg. Is it a skilled game? I play in PC-EU.
Oh i am PC EU too and only ppl i cant kill are good magsorcs due to shields and easy escape called streak. Everyone else i can kill and i also fight good players. You just need to know how to burst with your skills and not slap on 4 proc sets and let them play the game for you.0 -
OtarTheMad✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »OtarTheMad wrote: »İ am only playing magblade in pvp either as a bomber or ganker. ; if they remove vic death or caluurion and leave the class as the worst pvp class for everything 😁 bb Eso
You can still gank, 5pc Julianos, 5pc Spinners, two 1pc monster sets that do spell damage... or you could do 2pc willpower.
İs this a joke? Even with war maiden and spell strategist its very very hard to gank some one with 30 k hp ( nearly all) or with any shields and with a class with no timed / delayed burst skill no class heal i cant imagine myself in cyro anymore . İ worked very hard to complete that caluurion set İ love my wild hunt ring İf they re taking them away i wont be paying a penny anymore unless they rebalance the class to a point where stamina necro warden or mag sorc performs.
With the new CP and changes they made most ppl will have below 2k crit resist so ganking will be more easy with high crit builds. On PTS i was duelling Nightblades on crit builds that dealt 10k concealed weapon and 13k+ crit bow. So i am pretty sure you can gank good with a crit build.
Please dont understand me wrong. But bow on a gank build?😀 ok i ll light attack you5 times and then i ll send u a projectile so pls dont move.
İ am not fun of 40 k hp builds still dishes out damage and unkillable .
But in case of magblade with julianıs and spinners i better dont play if i ve no other option.
You have to really think outside the box, relying on just one or two sets might mean you need to make some adjustments. Plus high health means nothing if you can crit and damage through it. You have to remember that during this time with no procs a lot of us are in the same boat and the sets that made people bulky are shut off right now... so no crimson, no reactive, no buffer of the Swift, no battalion defender etc etc.
You'd be surprised what works right now. High crit builds can work, or high spell damage builds or whatever you want to try because a lot of the sets people used as a crutch in order to seem tanky are shut off (like I said). You can also take your build into IC or BGs if you really just want to just play with that though. I would say though play around with some magicka sets, ask some guildies if you're in a guild.2 -
AhSeLYaG✭✭✭OtarTheMad wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »OtarTheMad wrote: »İ am only playing magblade in pvp either as a bomber or ganker. ; if they remove vic death or caluurion and leave the class as the worst pvp class for everything 😁 bb Eso
You can still gank, 5pc Julianos, 5pc Spinners, two 1pc monster sets that do spell damage... or you could do 2pc willpower.
İs this a joke? Even with war maiden and spell strategist its very very hard to gank some one with 30 k hp ( nearly all) or with any shields and with a class with no timed / delayed burst skill no class heal i cant imagine myself in cyro anymore . İ worked very hard to complete that caluurion set İ love my wild hunt ring İf they re taking them away i wont be paying a penny anymore unless they rebalance the class to a point where stamina necro warden or mag sorc performs.
With the new CP and changes they made most ppl will have below 2k crit resist so ganking will be more easy with high crit builds. On PTS i was duelling Nightblades on crit builds that dealt 10k concealed weapon and 13k+ crit bow. So i am pretty sure you can gank good with a crit build.
Please dont understand me wrong. But bow on a gank build?😀 ok i ll light attack you5 times and then i ll send u a projectile so pls dont move.
İ am not fun of 40 k hp builds still dishes out damage and unkillable .
But in case of magblade with julianıs and spinners i better dont play if i ve no other option.
You have to really think outside the box, relying on just one or two sets might mean you need to make some adjustments. Plus high health means nothing if you can crit and damage through it. You have to remember that during this time with no procs a lot of us are in the same boat and the sets that made people bulky are shut off right now... so no crimson, no reactive, no buffer of the Swift, no battalion defender etc etc.
You'd be surprised what works right now. High crit builds can work, or high spell damage builds or whatever you want to try because a lot of the sets people used as a crutch in order to seem tanky are shut off (like I said). You can also take your build into IC or BGs if you really just want to just play with that though. I would say though play around with some magicka sets, ask some guildies if you're in a guild.
Ok i havent seen the new patch as i am a ps4 player. But whatever it is noone can comvince me why i cant use spell strategist or war maiden or wild hunt and only has 1 option to play.
Ok lets ban all procs. Bu then lets make all classes unique ,make stamina and magicka equal in power i am tired of stam necro warden or mag sorcs being over powered. Lets ban them all and make 1 single class who can enter cyro with pre determined sets skills even race and mundus:)0 -
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✭Proc sets would have remained meta only because they are a far more reliable form of damage than your skills. The procs would fire on any damage dealt, therefore, just one LA landing on a player was far more damage than abilities due to lag.
I have always said that you can’t balance a broken game. But at least no-procs is more balanced and fun than having them IMO.
Oh well, balance can not be achieved when the game can not function. And we are a long way off a functioning game.... oh well.Edited by NeillMcAttack on March 8, 2021 9:56AMPC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.0 -
yeyesil✭✭Artorias24 wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
I tried no proc cyrodiil with full stat build and light armor. So offensive and squishy. Noone can kill each other. Good players know each other and ignore each other. This playstyle you call skilled game is just a trash. Noone can kill each other with HP recovery or Max stat sets. This game changed a lot since the beginning. You can only kill xv1 or with a zerg. Is it a skilled game? I play in PC-EU.
Oh i am PC EU too and only ppl i cant kill are good magsorcs due to shields and easy escape called streak. Everyone else i can kill and i also fight good players. You just need to know how to burst with your skills and not slap on 4 proc sets and let them play the game for you.
Really? So thats my problem. As I told you earlier. I played in cp cyrodiil and only time i died when i was chased by a zerg and i could only kill potatoes. Good players that I've known for years just ignored me and i did the same because noone could kill each other. I dont need procs or specific sets to kill players worse than me. The problem starts when good players come across each other in cyrodiil. With zerg or in outnumbered fights you can kill your opponent but not everybody plays the game with a big group or zerg. I never saw you in PC eu or you are just an average player so i cant remember your name.
In addition there are no diversity. Magicka classes wear alfiq or juli while stamina players wear tanky sets like beekeper endurance or just hunding rage. Everybody wears the same sets and spams their spammables and the fights are only over when one of them are outnumbered or just health desync by magsors.
We can at least use non direct damage procs like clever alchemist bs balorgh New moon bsw etc.0 -
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✭People seem to be under a misconception that this change is for performance. It is not. It is the direct result of an increase in pvp population during the no proc tests.PvP needs more love.0 -
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✭Artorias24 wrote: »Artorias24 wrote: »The game without proc sets that deal damage for you or heal directly is just the most fun i ever Had in ESO. It now comes down to your playstyle and how well you know the class and your limits.
There is no Crimson that heals you full HP every 8 seconds for FREE and even deals decent damage. There is No vate destro that Deals damage for FREE. There is no zaan that applies more pressure then every skill and forces your enemy to go Defensive for FREE.
You want to deal damage? Use your skills. You need healing? Use your skills. Is that so hard?
I tried no proc cyrodiil with full stat build and light armor. So offensive and squishy. Noone can kill each other. Good players know each other and ignore each other. This playstyle you call skilled game is just a trash. Noone can kill each other with HP recovery or Max stat sets. This game changed a lot since the beginning. You can only kill xv1 or with a zerg. Is it a skilled game? I play in PC-EU.
Oh i am PC EU too and only ppl i cant kill are good magsorcs due to shields and easy escape called streak. Everyone else i can kill and i also fight good players. You just need to know how to burst with your skills and not slap on 4 proc sets and let them play the game for you.
Really? So thats my problem. As I told you earlier. I played in cp cyrodiil and only time i died when i was chased by a zerg and i could only kill potatoes. Good players that I've known for years just ignored me and i did the same because noone could kill each other. I dont need procs or specific sets to kill players worse than me. The problem starts when good players come across each other in cyrodiil. With zerg or in outnumbered fights you can kill your opponent but not everybody plays the game with a big group or zerg. I never saw you in PC eu or you are just an average player so i cant remember your name.
In addition there are no diversity. Magicka classes wear alfiq or juli while stamina players wear tanky sets like beekeper endurance or just hunding rage. Everybody wears the same sets and spams their spammables and the fights are only over when one of them are outnumbered or just health desync by magsors.
We can at least use non direct damage procs like clever alchemist bs balorgh New moon bsw etc.
Players that i am friendly with i also dont attack. Out of respect or we do a friendly Duel. But either fighting outnumbered or having some GvGs never ended in a draw.
It is possible to kill heavy stamden with 4k HP regen in 1v1. Thats nothing Impossible. But tbh, if someone need procs to kill decent players or players on their skill level thats kinda a l2p issue.1 -
halucin0g3n✭✭✭✭A decent company would have give rewards for PvPing on test server so players would have some motivation going there. I totally agree with the OP. I bought all these DLCs and expansions so I can only use old boring sets.0
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