This game is a true treasure and best MMO ever see why

Vanya · August 11

I just wish to say that my intentions are good and i speak from my heart and its all honest,

I dn't think many people realise how vast,versatile and incredibly gigantic ESO is offering unparalleled freedom in combat,exploration and interaction with the world in general.

tAMRIEL is enormous every step you make everywere you go feels as mini adventure, over 20,000 unique npcs, seemingly countless amount of quests and each of them narrative.

The audio and visuals are superb,game improved significantly since 2014 release. No amount of MMO gave me such satisifaction and thrill it feels as RPG SP game in same time MMO with others ,from reading random books,pets,lore,cosmetics,skins even 1st person view from all little woners to behond, incredible world design, unbelievably generpous amoutn of content for only 13 EUR per month with ESO plus makes this game a wonder

I dont know how can anyone complain , I haven't seen 75% of game yet ,its so well polished , I cannot believe how great it is, never bored there are so many things that i lately get overwhelemed and "drained" combat is just about right, not very hard but challenging in same time,

I would take a noval to write all this especially me being a huge Elder scrolls fan ,especialyl Skyrim one, Every MMO i play or played cannot match ESO it combines world interaction,things to do combat,graaphic,story lore and amount of content to unrivaled level at least from my point of view.

and amount of characters on screen, game runs fast for me, its easy to learn and navigate , I am so happy I started n 2018,

I am incredibly impressed by Devs and their iron will and passion to create such an enormous world, From my experience not a lot pf players look in very details but i do and I am just mind blown away how much effort and attention has been put into , I ma wrtting this from very soul.

Just single zone and major city can feel a lot ,every single place is different, i could spend hours just exploring or searching for things ,not even 15% of map, and then you realise there are 30+ caves,ruins,dolmens,events etc...

BY NINE DIVINES! 1 fully ear of playing every day for hours wont be neough to do every quest and experienc eevery dungeon,point of interest and beyond no way, I can play just this and nothing else PLEASE COUNTINE To suppoirt game!!

Everything that was done was done correctly, from very momnent and crazy amount of features to create a character intro,exploration ,combat, its just gets better each passing day you play...

Yesterday I was stunned by Clockwork city and mysteries around and cannot wait to see more lands , I am on Deadric stroyline in Morrowind ,Vvardenfell its incredible how each quests has tons amount of dialogue and each quests feels as epic tale and joureny and thats just a minor frafment in sea of vastness l
My jaw drops down every time when i think about it, somtimes i kept starting at one place and desgin ,observing all these characters,effects and movement, I am a man that is not easily impressed and i got a thing for details and ESO wont stop taking things to a new level never seen before to me..

I hope ESO lives at least for another decade!

Off now to log and venture into unknown1

Your loyal passionate fan

P.S. I know there are people who got "fed" after 6 years of playing maybe they care not about story lore and all details things we can do , but facts are clear, think about player as me who hasn't seen about 80% of entire content , every step i do and go its just never ending thrill and joy, if you take into accoutn everything Elder Scrolls Online is nearly perfect game , no MMO is perfect but for me its , i cannot ask for anything extra just to keep releasing expansions as obvious of course it would be dream comes true to have entire Tamriel released or arent we very close , even current game is enormous enough to keep casuals and semi casuals hooked up for years honestly

SeaGtGruff · August 11

I've been playing ESO pretty much daily since August 28, 2017, and I still remember how magical it was when I took the boat from Vivec City and arrived in Daggerfall. This game takes a lot of heat, but I agree that it's amazing in its scope and depth.

Wanda_Clamshuckr · August 11

Welcome!

My advice? Check out the ESO community on Reddit. There are a lot more like minded people there, who enjoy sharing their positive experiences. [snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

zvavi · August 11

Wanda_Clamshuckr wrote: »

Welcome!

My advice? Check out the ESO community on Reddit. There are a lot more like minded people there, who enjoy sharing their positive experiences. [snip]

Yep, great advice, ESO is great for casuals and semi casuals just as stated by op. [snip]

[Edited to remove Baiting]

Elsonso · August 11

FrancisCrawford · August 11

Game teams are good at different things.

The artistic aspects of ESO -- visual art, characterization, storytelling, etc. -- are the best I've ever seen or heard of in an MMO.

The software side is a pretty permament mess. (Note: It is VERY hard to save a software project if it's start is really bad.)

The basic combat plan was fine, except for the disastrous decision to tie PvE and PvP combat mechanics so closely together. The original set of skill designs was imaginative, but it was also careless and screwed up. Further combat work has been mediocre.

casparian · August 11

I agree with what you said, @Vanya -- ESO is a fantastic game, and I'd go to bat for it against any other MMO. The issue is that it just...doesn't work. I've put a couple hundred hours into the beginner content (the quests), had some great times in dungeons, but the endgame activities I worked to get to -- Cyrodiil and trials -- literally don't function. Performance is so bad that those activities may as well have been removed from the game.

I'm glad that people who focus mainly on quests and overland content have such a good time. That part of the game really is well designed. Imagine what it would be like for you if those parts of the game simply didn't work -- if you couldn't target delve bosses with your skills, if you could only successfully turn in quests if you got lucky to load into the right instance, if NPCs routinely lagged out and started saying the wrong lines so that you could rarely hear the lines they were actually intended to say -- that is what those of us who enjoy the endgame parts of ESO experience when we try to play the content we like.

I'll never talk down to people who enjoy different parts of the game than what I do, but please don't dismiss other players' frustrations as "just salt".

Room_101 · August 11

People complaining about the state of the servers (espcially EU) is not "salt", it is legitimate customer complaints.

mairwen85 · August 11

casparian wrote: »

I agree with what you said, @Vanya -- ESO is a fantastic game, and I'd go to bat for it against any other MMO. The issue is that it just...doesn't work. I've put a couple hundred hours into the beginner content (the quests), had some great times in dungeons, but the endgame activities I worked to get to -- Cyrodiil and trials -- literally don't function. Performance is so bad that those activities may as well have been removed from the game.

I'm glad that people who focus mainly on quests and overland content have such a good time. That part of the game really is well designed. Imagine what it would be like for you if those parts of the game simply didn't work -- if you couldn't target delve bosses with your skills, if you could only successfully turn in quests if you got lucky to load into the right instance, if NPCs routinely lagged out and started saying the wrong lines so that you could rarely hear the lines they were actually intended to say -- that is what those of us who enjoy the endgame parts of ESO experience when we try to play the content we like.

I'll never talk down to people who enjoy different parts of the game than what I do, but please don't dismiss other players' frustrations as "just salt".

To be fair, OP didn't, a follow up poster did. But I echo what you say in this post. The game is vast enough with loads of content, pretty much something for everyone; it's just a shame that not all content is created equal with the same care and attention. Its a beautiful game, well written, and it really grabs hold of the TES franchise, but it has been slipping, even on the overland elements that it does so well. Those of us who love this game, don't throw around salt, we voice our concern and frustration at seeing something we love become damaged and less than what we know it can be...

ZOS_ConnorG · August 11

Greetings all,

After review we have had to edit or remove several posts for Baiting. Please ensure that when engaging in a discussing you keep said discussion civil, constructive, and within the rules.

You are welcome to review the Community Rules here.

TwinLamps · August 11

Dovakhan · August 11

IDK about "best" MMO, but it's stories are superb, and it's totally a mandatory game for any TES fan.

Can't compare gameplay with any other MMO cos this is my first one, but it's enjoyable IMO.

scorpius2k1 · August 11

TL;DR

ESO is a gem with so much untapped potential, even after 6+ years it has a long way to go before it can be a polished one.

Hopefully ZOS will put this game where it deserves to be one day. I feel they are trying.

Sarousse · August 11

In Skyrim... I stepped carefuly while exploring. Many encounters were dangerous, going in a cave was a great feeling, risk vs reward.

In ESO, since year 2... I just run anywhere while agitating my arms and everything dies instanly, ruining the whole experience.

[snip]

[Edited to remove Bashing]

luen79rwb17_ESO · August 11

There's alot of quality in ESO in regards to the rest of the MMO market and it seems it's gonna be like that for years to come. I agree with all your comments and I've been playing since beta 2014.

From a casual perspective this game is breathtaking with all those features, but we do have to admit, and it's NOT negativity, that there are several issues with core designs, programming, server capacities and balancing. All of which might have the potential to be a pain once you start to take this game more seriously in a competitive PVE or PVP.

All in all it's al a matter of how much can your "stomach" digest and get along with these issues. But as a matter of fact, isn't it like this in like all games?

amm7sb14_ESO · August 11

I like ESO far more than I don't, but its far from being the best MMO ever imo.

It has far too little practical choice, despite the "play how you want" motto, this does not apply to end game group content as you are essentially forced into a "meta", or at least close to it, and even successful "off-meta" falls into narrow boxes of having to run specific weapons, armor types, and same ability effects as everyone else in your chosen role, making individuality and creative freedom a non-factor in the game)

There is little to no immersion in the actual world around you, making it hard to get lost in the world as the very basic foundation of the game is one that consistently reminds you that you're in a video game.

Elder Scrolls Online is less of an Elder Scrolls game and more of an Elder Scrolls skinned Diablo 3. ESO is very much a standard copy / paste MMO concept with just a few tweaks to the formula but nothing truly unique or innovative.

It's good at what it does, but what it does is *not* capture an online Elder Scrolls experience, something that other MMO titles in the past have done a far better job with. The irony is that I wouldn't even play this game if it wasn't an Elder Scrolls title, but it doesn't even do any of the things that make Elder Scrolls unique and beloved.

I do like many of the things about this game, enough so that I am deep into it, have played virtually daily for the last 8 months since i came back in December, and have been around off and on in some capacity since the game was in beta. So in no ways am I claiming this game to be trash or bad. Its definitely an aesthetically pleasing game with a large variety of well made lands to explore, mostly well done but sometimes more frustrating than not group content. But at the end of the day I can't call this the best MMO ever for myself.

SeaGtGruff · August 11

Sarousse wrote: »

In Skyrim... I stepped carefuly while exploring. Many encounters were dangerous, going in a cave was a great feeling, risk vs reward.

In ESO, since year 2... I just run anywhere while agitating my arms and everything dies instanly, ruining the whole experience.

It's extremely easy to become just as OP in Skyrim as it is in ESO; just make a skill "legendary" so you can level it up again, and keep repeating until you achieve a godlike level. At that point the game becomes pretty boring, too-- unless you happen to run into one of those NPCs who like to wander the world insulting and attacking you, who are extremely difficult to kill since they're scaled-up to a godlike level to match you.

Vanya · August 11

What a bs as much its incredible it broke my character and cannot log in stuck , lag connection loss 20 times i m ragging its extremely frustrating [snip] this goodbye

[Edited to remove Profanity]

mairwen85 · August 11

Vanya wrote: »

What a bs as much its incredible it broke my character and cannot log in stuck , lag connection loss 20 times i m ragging its extremely frustrating [snip] this goodbye

😂 That was quick. Fickle fanbase.

Inyhel · August 11

I have a feeling that if this was any other forum there would be a lot more expletives thrown around.
I've been playing this game for around 5 months now and would say I'm overall quite happy with the content.

That said, if people have negative experiences it doesn't take a genius to try and understand why. A little logic and empathy tells me that there are a lot of issues that need addressing which no amount of boot licking can magic away.

Obviously everyone plays the game because there is something that they like about it, but these kind of topics that excessively praise the game while dismissing any form of criticism rubs a lot of people the wrong way. I actually think they do more harm than good.

SidraWillowsky · August 11

Vanya wrote: »

What a bs as much its incredible it broke my character and cannot log in stuck , lag connection loss 20 times i m ragging its extremely frustrating [snip] this goodbye

[Edited to remove Profanity]

LOL (sorry)

Souterain · August 11

Vanya wrote: »

What a bs as much its incredible it broke my character and cannot log in stuck , lag connection loss 20 times i m ragging its extremely frustrating [snip] this goodbye

[Edited to remove Profanity]

Very possibly the most insightful post/thread I've read - thanks.

Usually it takes a couple of years to go from your first post rose-tinted, everything's-shiny-new-I'm-deeply-in-love to 'there's the door you useless waste of space'.

Oustanding.

Such a pity I got here late and missed the original before forum redaction got snippy.

Souterain · August 11

Maybe.

I skimmed. And laughed. Works for me.

edit: @amm7sb14_ESO - thanks & good call; I should've read first post rather than skimmed, satire is kind've telegraphed with multi deployment of '...not done 80%....' and others.

Nice job, OP. Still regret not getting in pre-snippy.

Kalik_Gold · August 11

Has been my favorite also since 2017, great game. I also like the console version, as an older gamer. Much easier to access.

Raudgrani · August 11

The game as it's meant to be, is absolutely glorious. And just the possibility of making awesome crafting/housing, demanding trials, chill questing, and hardcore PVP content - is pretty unparalleled if you ask me.

But it's wrestling with huge issues regarding performance, and outright glitches and bugs that have remained the same year after year. It's making places like Cyrodiil basically unplayable, and if they fix it with intended upcoming changes, it won't be nearly the same anymore.

I hope the performance - and so forth - gets better, this is like the "to be or not to be" of ESO. I know many who have been playing since start, who have been saying like "I'll give it a last chance with this performance improvement plan, if that doesn't do it - I am out. I can't take this anymore". My "IRL best friend" never even started playing this game, because he knows of all these problems. Quite a few people do some research before they start something big like starting to play ESO, if it seems like a waste of time because of issues like these, they'll never even start. This is of course sad, but still true.

mrsrobot · August 11

Eso is the best mmo and game and work of art ever created in all time.

AngryOldMan · August 11

Eso is the game i have spent most timer playing. Allways something to do like pledges, altering my builds, PVP and casual exploration. ESOs world is just huge. Some zones are gigantic, other smaller and unique like Murmire. I love this game and will probably spend way to many hours each week playing this game in the future also.

MEBengalsFan2001 · August 11

ESO is a massive game with plenty of content to play. The problem I have is that for as big as the game is the story isn't bad but it's not great and over time it becomes boring and feel tedious with all of the small side quest, it reminds of Dragon Age Inquisition fetch quest which grew tiring and boring.

The thing I like about ESO is that you don't need to do the dailies like some other MMO games unless you are trying to get specific styles or achievements. I also like that most of the overland content is designed around a main story that never seems to end but like I stated already it gets tiring and boring.

ESO is a great MMO because it does have many things to offer but like many MMOs over time players get bored and move onto other games.

For me the dull story is why I keep leaving. I come back for a short time only to find myself leaving again because either combat or the story end up being dull and boring.

amm7sb14_ESO · August 11

Souterain wrote: »

Maybe.

I skimmed. And laughed. Works for me.

edit: @amm7sb14_ESO - thanks & good call; I should've read first post rather than skimmed, satire is kind've telegraphed with multi deployment of '...not done 80%....' and others.

Nice job, OP. Still regret not getting in pre-snippy.

Not gonna lie, it was a masterwork [snip]. There were some things in the OP that raised an eyebrow ("my intentions are good") but overall it read so sincere, hence my original response in sincerity.

It's probably one of the best [snip]

[edited for baiting]

wishlist14 · August 11

I ❤eso. Still here after 5 plus years. I can't find any other game out there that comes close to offering the scope of activities that eso does. The visuals are superb, the questlines engaging aswell as the npcs. There is beauty and humour everywhere. The housing system is spectacular.
The combat system is fun aswell as the skill lines. Most events are fun too and the dungeons and trial are great.
The luxury vendor and golden vendor are a great idea. The fishing is eso is cool. There's so many amazing things about this game, it has a lot going for it.

The devs are lovely, talented, hard working, creative, passionate people.

I hope eso has a long life ahead i really do 😊😊😊

volkeswagon · August 12

The game is so bad I play it 30 hours a week. If it was really good I would have quit years ago.