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Disgusting RnG crown crates rage!
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redlink1979✭✭✭✭✭
✭Gambling: the odds always benefits the house..."Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"
Speaker of Sons of the Night Mother guild [PS4][EU] 1395 CP
Daggerfall's Mightiest [PS4][NA] 820 CP
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✭You play you lose, no one forced you and you already know it's total RNG.
Dunno why people keep spending ton of money in something they know it's a cash grab and then come forum while angry about it...Edited by Aznarb on August 6, 2020 9:40AMPC - EU
Templar - Tank
Necromancer - Tank
Dragon Knight - Tank
Warden - Healer
Sorcerer - Healer
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is true but at the end of spending a subsequent amount of money filling their pockets you would like to expect what you set out after surely. The real kick in the nuts is hearing others get it within a few crates.
No, if they wanted that, they would've just put that mount in crown store. Or allowed you to buy radiants for like 5k gems or whatever.
The whole point is to drain as much of your money as possible, sadly. There's no upper limit on spending.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Jaimeh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The drop rate has been documented in crowncrates.com, it is abysmal for radiant apex. Knowing this doesn't make it less frustrating, but at least you know beforehand what you're getting into. Crown gifting was an ingenious move on ZOS' part, it encourages people who wouldn't spend RL money on cosmetics to do so indirectly. I buy crates with in-game gold too, and sometimes it's easy to forget that at the end the house always wins. I find that if you don't have your heart set on any item in particular, and just enjoy the proces sof opening the ones you bought and what you get, makes the experience better.@stargold
PC/NA CP810
AD Nefelyn - Altmer Sorcerer - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror ǀ Master Angler ǀ Hero of all the things (fine, some of the things)
DC Bastiene - Breton Templar - Healer ǀ The Flawless Conqueror ǀ Prefect ǀ Blackrose Executioner
AD Niobeh - Dunmer Nightblade - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror ǀ Black Market Mogul ǀ Blackrose Executioner ǀ Master Thief ǀ Silencer (but we don’t talk about that)
AD Ashayam - Khajiit Sorcerer - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
DC Sydhe Narjes - Redguard Nightblade - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror ǀ Blackrose Executioner
DC Eva Saint Claire - Breton Warden - Healer ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
EP Rruns-With-Scissors - Argonian Dragoknight - Tank ǀ He’s a good boy, OK Bront?
EP Moiranni Deyr - Dunmer Dragonknight - Healer ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
DC Anur Imagua - Redguard Templar - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
AD Azoke Sen - Imperial Sorcerer - Tank ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
DC Sàverin - Orc Warden - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror ǀ Blackrose Executioner
DC Zuwane Okoye - Redguard Dragonknight - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
DC Telella - Orc Nightblade - DD ǀ The more the merrier ǀ The Flawless Conqueror ǀ Dro-m'athra Destroyer
DC Mal the Ghost Whisperer - Orc Necromancer - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
DC Riad Phoenix-Song - Breton Necromancer - Healer
PC/EU CP810
AD Ariadne Teledine - Altmer Sorcerer - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
EP Máyim - Dunmer Nightblade - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
DC Surjan - Orc Nightblade - DD ǀ The Flawless Conqueror
DC Maven Asari - Orc Necromancer - DD
DC Aliya Voltaris - Orc Sorcerer - DD
DC Mesríne - Orc Warden - DD
EP Speaks-In-Riddles - Argonian Dragonknight - Tank
DC Abelia Cassine - Breton Templar - Healer
DC Kirin Swiftblade - Khajiit Nightblade - DD
vSO HM · vAA HM · vHRC HM · vMOL HM · vHOF HM · vAS HM · vCR HM · vSS HM· vKA · vDSA · vBRP
It's not zerging if we are all solo and just happen to go to the same place independently xD -
Gorreck✭✭✭I have spent well over a £1000 plus in game gold from crown sellers... total of 11k + crown gems! Multiple duplicates of everything and Still no Radiant Apex Senche Rhat darkfang! I feel depressed! It isn’t right...
rant over.
If you look at the actual odds of getting one, this isn't surprising.
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mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Agree ^ frustrating nonetheless. Harsh lesson learned. Been on the game since day one and this is the only time I have ever gone crazy over something I really really want
Don't rage at the crates or the practice, rage at yourself.- you chose to spend that money
- you decided not to stop after a lot bad RNG
The simple truth is that by design, these things have low chance and (ultimately) high cost. The only way to beat the system is to not participate in it.Is all that we see or seem
but a dream within a dream?
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Anne13✭✭✭Agree ^ frustrating nonetheless. Harsh lesson learned. Been on the game since day one and this is the only time I have ever gone crazy over something I really really want
Don't rage at the crates or the practice, rage at yourself.- you chose to spend that money
- you decided not to stop after a lot bad RNG
The simple truth is that by design, these things have low chance and (ultimately) high cost. The only way to beat the system is to not participate in it.
Fully agree
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✭✭✭✭✭Agree ^ frustrating nonetheless. Harsh lesson learned. Been on the game since day one and this is the only time I have ever gone crazy over something I really really want
Yeah, I know the feeling. I really wanted that red/black senche from scalecaller crates and often caught myself thinking of buying a few packs of those crates (but after being burned with vMA inferno staff rng I didnt). It's just a very manipulative tactic.Edited by LadyNalcarya on August 6, 2020 10:59AMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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✭✭I have spent well over a £1000 plus in game gold from crown sellers... total of 11k + crown gems! Multiple duplicates of everything and Still no Radiant Apex Senche Rhat darkfang! I feel depressed! It isn’t right...
Fixed for ya.
(I'm joking, of course, nobody can tell you what to do with your money)None of us is getting any younger, you know.
Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event. > https://nairinhe.github.io/
...All true adventures include some deep bruises and frantic screaming, right?is Fennorian a light source?PC EU - EP
Annarath - Dunmer stamblade. Hero, thief, murderer. Of House Dres by blood, raised by Khajiit and Argonian people.
Norra Storfjallet - a mountain range Nord frostwarden. Must. Protect. Everyone. Found out that world is bigger than dad's farm.
Soothing-Paws Habasi - Khajiit healplar. Grandma you wish you had, but Annarath ain't sharing.
Serpentina Scintilla - Imperial magcro. If she said she's from Tharn family, even Tharn family would believe.
Gentle-Like-Snow - Argonian healblade. When she grows up she wants to be like Fennorian, but vampirism is a questionable first step.
Nuada Vendresi - Dunmer fire DK. Annarath's brother. Our mistakes shape us in most peculiar ways. -
Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I have spent well over a £1000 plus in game gold from crown sellers... total of 11k + crown gems! Multiple duplicates of everything and Still no Radiant Apex Senche Rhat darkfang! I feel depressed! It isn’t right...
Fixed for ya.
(I'm joking, of course, nobody can tell you what to do with your money)
Oh, yes, people can. [snip] You are free to spend your money as long as it doesn't go into malicious things. As for clown crates, just take a look at how popular they've become, what they do to the consumer and ask yourself how we got into this situation. I'll leave it to you to decide whether they're malicious and if people should be told to not spend money on 'em.
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Ratzkifal✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭A trap that a lot of people fall into is thinking that when they haven't gotten a radiant apex in the last 100 crates, it will surely drop soon. Whatever your past crates contained doesn't affect the propability of you getting a radiant apex in the next. You can go FOREVER without getting a radiant apex, no matter how much money you spend.
As seen above, the odds are roughly 0.29% but that doesn't mean you'll actually get 29 after 10 000 crates. You could very well get none and it won't make the next 10 000 crates contain it either.
There is no guarantees for anything.Edited by Ratzkifal on August 6, 2020 11:40AMThis Bosmer was tortured to death. There is nothing left to be done. -
Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭A trap that a lot of people fall into is thinking that when they haven't gotten a radiant apex in the last 100 crates, it will surely drop soon. Whatever your past crates contained doesn't affect the propability of you getting a radiant apex in the next. You can go FOREVER without getting a radiant apex, no matter how much money you spend.
As seen above, the odds are roughly 0.29% but that doesn't mean you'll actually get 29 after 10 000 crates. You could very well get none and it won't make the next 10 000 crates contain it either.
There is no guarantees for anything.
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BisDasBlutGefriert✭✭✭✭I'm honestly curious, are rewards from crown crates giftable? I've only done the free crate drops.
So say I get one pack of crates, and I get that mount in those crates. Could I gift it over to @Anne13 ?~There’s a positive in every negative. Sometimes the positive is harder to find than other times, but there is ALWAYS one there~ -
robpr✭✭✭✭✭BisDasBlutGefriert wrote: »I'm honestly curious, are rewards from crown crates giftable? I've only done the free crate drops.
So say I get one pack of crates, and I get that mount in those crates. Could I gift it over to @Anne13 ?
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BisDasBlutGefriert✭✭✭✭Okay, thank you!~There’s a positive in every negative. Sometimes the positive is harder to find than other times, but there is ALWAYS one there~
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Nairinhe✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I have spent well over a £1000 plus in game gold from crown sellers... total of 11k + crown gems! Multiple duplicates of everything and Still no Radiant Apex Senche Rhat darkfang! I feel depressed! It isn’t right...
Fixed for ya.
(I'm joking, of course, nobody can tell you what to do with your money)
Oh, yes, people can. [snip] You are free to spend your money as long as it doesn't go into malicious things. As for clown crates, just take a look at how popular they've become, what they do to the consumer and ask yourself how we got into this situation. I'll leave it to you to decide whether they're malicious and if people should be told to not spend money on 'em.
That's going into off-topic territory, but I think that while government (or, okay, whoever holds the power over your community) can prohibit offering and purchasing of certain goods and services, on person-to-person level nobody has that authority. Well, maybe your ma when she gives you some pocket money.
As for predatory tactics - we ourselves are at fault. We make them work.Edited by ZOS_RachelM on August 6, 2020 12:30PMNone of us is getting any younger, you know.
Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event. > https://nairinhe.github.io/
...All true adventures include some deep bruises and frantic screaming, right?is Fennorian a light source?PC EU - EP
Annarath - Dunmer stamblade. Hero, thief, murderer. Of House Dres by blood, raised by Khajiit and Argonian people.
Norra Storfjallet - a mountain range Nord frostwarden. Must. Protect. Everyone. Found out that world is bigger than dad's farm.
Soothing-Paws Habasi - Khajiit healplar. Grandma you wish you had, but Annarath ain't sharing.
Serpentina Scintilla - Imperial magcro. If she said she's from Tharn family, even Tharn family would believe.
Gentle-Like-Snow - Argonian healblade. When she grows up she wants to be like Fennorian, but vampirism is a questionable first step.
Nuada Vendresi - Dunmer fire DK. Annarath's brother. Our mistakes shape us in most peculiar ways. -
Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I have spent well over a £1000 plus in game gold from crown sellers... total of 11k + crown gems! Multiple duplicates of everything and Still no Radiant Apex Senche Rhat darkfang! I feel depressed! It isn’t right...
Fixed for ya.
(I'm joking, of course, nobody can tell you what to do with your money)
Oh, yes, people can. Drugs? Exotic videos? Assassination contracts? You are free to spend your money as long as it doesn't go into malicious things. As for clown crates, just take a look at how popular they've become, what they do to the consumer and ask yourself how we got into this situation. I'll leave it to you to decide whether they're malicious and if people should be told to not spend money on 'em.
That's going into off-topic territory, but I think that while government (or, okay, whoever holds the power over your community) can prohibit offering and purchasing of certain goods and services, on person-to-person level nobody has that authority. Well, maybe your ma when she gives you some pocket money.
As for predatory tactics - we ourselves are at fault. We make them work.
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I don’t think we’re having performance problems because people invest money in the game; I think there’s no impetus for ZOS to actually fix the game, because why spend that time, effort, and money when people who don’t play in Cyrodiil are throwing thousands at them for a chance at obtaining a digital mount? The old “vote with your wallet” thing doesn’t affect them when there are people spending more money on the game over the course of a few days than I would spend in an ENTIRE YEAR of subscribing.
[edited to remove quoted content]Edited by ZOS_RachelM on August 6, 2020 1:01PM
