Look... No offense EP, but why are you guys so annoying!? (PC/NA)

CallmeFishmeal · July 3

I'm sure this discussion will be taken down soon, but I got to know. I've lost all respect for EP especially during this event.

I'm on AD and I'm having a hard time enjoying this event. I can't even step down into the main district area of IC Sewer without 10 EP ganking me within the first 5 secs. I won't try to fight anybody and they just chase me down. It doesn't matter what sewer server I'm on, or who has the population advantage, EP with have all the flags in every sewer instance.

Now I'm sure most you will say, "Get good!" but that's kinda hard when you're being beaten on by 10+ people. I've taken advise from many people and guides, but nothing can help you when it comes to EP. And don't even get me started on Team Purple! If EP isn't enough for you, how about 10 EP and 25 DC working together and jumping on you all at the same time. Dare I say, I'm almost convinced that half of EP is cheating somehow. And in Cyro EP is always trolling. ALWAYS! EP doesn't not allow anyone to have fun, because I'm not sure they know what fun is.

When the alliance change tokens came out, I'm pretty positive that 2/3 of AD swapped to EP just so they are not being trolled on by them anymore.

I'm not trying to hate on anyone so please don't take this the wrong way. I'm just genuinely curious of how that faction can be so tanky yet do so much damage while constantly teaming up with DC to troll AD all day. If anyone has any helpful advice that will make me, "get good" then I'm all ears. I've changed gear multiple times, cp points, class, race, and yada yada yada.

Like I said, I don't mean to offend anyone, and I expect everyone is nice during this discussion. I'm just tired of not enjoying PvP and this event and just had to vent 😂

Gabrielzavadski · July 3

Glory for the Pact!

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krayphysh · July 3

How does [snip] run faster than possible, never run out of stam, mag, health, and can take down a group of full cp PVPer's....I mean people who only PvP and have for years. It's ruining the game, it's not fun to play with so many cheaters on the server.

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CallmeFishmeal · July 3

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

Glory for the Pact!

But you didn't answer my question 😰

Gabrielzavadski · July 3

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

Glory for the Pact!

But you didn't answer my question 😰

[snip]

Take a look at guides, youtube, join PvP guilds, also take a look at en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData, you can theorycraft builds here

[Edited to remove Baiting]

krayphysh · July 3

ESO doesn't punish the cheaters... I, on the other hand, have never cheated and been banned because my name bothered someone... If no one is being punished for cheating they have no reason to stop.

CallmeFishmeal · July 3

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

Gabrielzavadski wrote: »

Glory for the Pact!

But you didn't answer my question 😰

[snip]

Take a look at guides, youtube, join PvP guilds, also take a look at en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData, you can theorycraft builds here.

I don't think you read my original post 😂 but thanks for the advice 👌

Algorax · July 3

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

I'm sure this discussion will be taken down soon, but I got to know. I've lost all respect for EP especially during this event.

I'm on AD and I'm having a hard time enjoying this event. I can't even step down into the main district area of IC Sewer without 10 EP ganking me within the first 5 secs. I won't try to fight anybody and they just chase me down. It doesn't matter what sewer server I'm on, or who has the population advantage, EP with have all the flags in every sewer instance.

Now I'm sure most you will say, "Get good!" but that's kinda hard when you're being beaten on by 10+ people. I've taken advise from many people and guides, but nothing can help you when it comes to EP. And don't even get me started on Team Purple! If EP isn't enough for you, how about 10 EP and 25 DC working together and jumping on you all at the same time. Dare I say, I'm almost convinced that half of EP is cheating somehow. And in Cyro EP is always trolling. ALWAYS! EP doesn't not allow anyone to have fun, because I'm not sure they know what fun is.

When the alliance change tokens came out, I'm pretty positive that 2/3 of AD swapped to EP just so they are not being trolled on by them anymore.

I'm not trying to hate on anyone so please don't take this the wrong way. I'm just genuinely curious of how that faction can be so tanky yet do so much damage while constantly teaming up with DC to troll AD all day. If anyone has any helpful advice that will make me, "get good" then I'm all ears. I've changed gear multiple times, cp points, class, race, and yada yada yada.

Like I said, I don't mean to offend anyone, and I expect everyone is nice during this discussion. I'm just tired of not enjoying PvP and this event and just had to vent 😂

If you do not want to be a coward EP player or a worthless AD then join the real valiant faction: DC!

Bradyfjord · July 3

The mistake you made, OP, was not being in a large group. The groups running right now are enormous due to MYM. Also, when near large groups of players, the lag is bad. The lag can make it look like people are moving all over the place, but it's only because the server is having a hard time letting your computer have enough information so you can see where they are. This is why server performance needs to be improved above any other 'feature' including new classes/skills/guilds or mini games.

Kadoin · July 3

krayphysh wrote: »

How does [snip] run faster than possible, never run out of stam, mag, health, and can take down a group of full cp PVPer's....I mean people who only PvP and have for years. It's ruining the game, it's not fun to play with so many cheaters on the server.

[snip]

But to your point, the trade secret is that ZOS ignores PTS input, players talk and then you feel the result of it when you fight them. He cannot even move my HP bar no matter how hard he tries, even on his stamcro, does that mean I also cheat? Nope.

Balance right now is so bad...don't get me started, just stay away from me in IC when I am not playing the game to have fun. It won't be a nice experience, esp. if you are an NB and try to gank me. No quarters on those guys.

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mzprx · July 3

you don't want to know how many times i witnessed quite the opposite. we in the EP have a name for both opposing alliances. the Greens. at least on PC EU. you may call me biased, but i have seen many times Yellows and Blues working together. there was a time when we had to actually get to the IC sewer entrance on foot to get in (the IC) and there we were often ambushed by the Greens (meaning Yellow and Blue gankers). a couple of NBs from each alliance hiding in shadows, killing us when we tried to enter the sewers and then going back to stealth without them actually attacking each other. or sieging us in a keep, Yellows from the east and Blues from the west, again, attacking us but not each other. or zerging us from two sides when we're trying to siege a keep, killing us and then go their own separate ways. and don't get me started about times when we couldn't even leave the alliance base in the sewers because of groups of Yellows and Blues waiting for us at the exit together..

i'm sure that DC players could tell you the same about EP and AD working together. is it real? the cooperation? don't know, but sometimes it may look like that..

Hotdog_23 · July 3

Don’t see the fun in a group jumping on one person. Did quite a lot of ICP this week so far. Most groups I pick up will jump anything that moves. I have said come on it’s one person and they are questing you can tell. They are just getting their tickets let them be. Every group said no I can’t if I see another color, they “have to die” no matter what. Then they all gang bang them as I watch. Feel bad for the other person. Guess I am old, but I just don’t get my jolly’s beating up on someone not fighting back. Got my achievement for 12 horrors and a couple leads. Only going back for daily tickets until event is over.

If you haven’t done the story quest for ICP you should it’s neat. PVP not your bag wait until the event is over in a few weeks. In fairness I did it during mym event and it was fun and exciting knowing that everywhere some was trying to kill me. Nice change from general questing. The only part that sucked was during the arena part of the quest and fighting I have the boss down to like 10% and in no CP and 2 other players jumped me, twice. By the 3rd attempt they had moved on, but as I was leaving, I seen them coming back and starting to hide to gawk more people. Luckily, they didn’t see me. Got one of them but the other one got me. Hehehe

Be safe and have fun

Grandchamp1989 · July 3

lolol I've seen exactly that this event.

Ebonheart Pact are... dare I say extremely uncivilized on top of being üpper bloodthirsty.

No wonder the Dwarves and Snow Elves didn't stand a chance, they probably ganged up on everyone one of them 10vs1 as they do in IC invading everyones space lolol

Dracane · July 3

Worry not, revenge is being taken elsewhere. Here on PC EU, we harvest those creatures for the Dominion. Trust me, they suffer here a hundretfold.

No whisper whining nor foolish passive behavior protects them from being removed; over and over again until even the last Alliance Point has been drained and made into potions just to fuel the cycle.

SshadowSscale · July 3

To be fair hop onto ep faction go to ic and you will see ad and dc players doing exactly the same thing..... You have only seen it from one point of view and judged an entire faction meanwhile the other 2 factions are doing it too...... Before complaining take a diffrent point of view.... Just to see the bigger picture and bigge issue

Dracane · July 3

SshadowSscale wrote: »

To be fair hop onto ep faction go to ic and you will see ad and dc players doing exactly the same thing..... You have only seen it from one point of view and judged an entire faction meanwhile the other 2 factions are doing it too...... Before complaining take a diffrent point of view.... Just to see the bigger picture and bigge issue

I can attest to this. All factions do it, yet Daggerfall and Ebonheart are certainly more verminous. The Dominion here does not come into the city unless you capture half of it yellow to make them feel safe. They only want to farm and will immediately leave once beaten, unlike the other faction who abuse the endless respawn until there is no tomorrow.

Rarely have I seen such trifling. Yet nontheless, the animals falls.

Nordic__Knights · July 3

guess their paying AD back in IC for what AD does in main campaign because AD doesn't move away from anything without an full group to kill 1 person, DC is worse at it tho they chase 1 player around the map but once that player gets friendlies around DC runs away , AD will at less fight but with an full group why wouldn't they been on PC NA for 3 months now and all i ever see is team GREEN zerging EP full time , hours can go by and AD/DC will not fight each other the whole time but try their best to get EP gates opened up . oh and btw i started pvp as an AD but being i dont like to 9v1 players moved over to EP being TEAM GREEN RUNS the map EP needed the help i can give as an solo player more then any other side . and about IC ive seen streams of AD players 6v1 anything that moves never seen other groups but maybe once an DC group , but i guess that depends on what IC your in maybe your going to one that EP/DC has grouped up to keep AD out of being they 6v1 ect. in the other one idk IC aint my cup of tea pve in pvp aint fun no matter what time of year it is . AND AM SURE OTHERS CAN SAY THEY GET TREATED THIS WAY BY EP/DC OR EP/AD ALL JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT THEY HAPPEN TO BE . IS IT CHEATING "NO" THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS IN ALL 3 WAY WARS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Learn to have fun or move on to another campaign its not hard to do really

Sarannah · July 3

I'm on PC EU... and I have noticed more and more PvPers and groups of PvPers basically cutting off the sewers for my alliance. No way to get out, and even after killing me quite a few times, they keep killing me. Even when I try to run past them.
When we do get a group of PvE'ers together, these players seem immortal. There is just no chance to win, and even when you do win, they are back in a minute or two. Or someone else from their or the other alliance will be there to kill you.

This happens on all servers constantly, leaving me with no chance to even try to get motifs from the bosses.

Now I don't mind this happening on occasion, but they are there for hours on end. At what point does it become griefing, and punishable?

Learn to have fun

How can we have fun, when all we can do is die and respawn?

PS: The first few days of the event, this barely happened.
PPS: This probably happens to all alliances!

YstradClud · July 3

I had more problems with DC Nightblades camping me but I just decided the AD aren't as strong as they use to and just left the DC and EP to fight amongst themselves.

Guyle · July 3

*yawn* make 2 more statements of the exact same thing except change EP to AD for one of them and DC for the other, and you've got the story straight. No one faction is grimier than another, every faction zergs, every faction has sweaty try hards, players running OP builds, gankers, and people who generally just seem to want to ruin your day. I've played on all 3 factions, in Cyrodil and IC, and everyone says the same thing, "ohh its team green/purple/orange," "AD/EP/DC cant do anything unless they zerg," etcetera. Factions are made up of individuals who do what they do

Jerkling · July 3

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

[...] I can't even step down into the main district area of IC Sewer without 10 EP ganking me within the first 5 secs. I won't try to fight anybody and they just chase me down. [...]

Are you seriously complaining about getting into PvP while in an PvP area? I mean... seriously?

mattaeus01b16_ESO · July 3

Its everyone.. trust me.
But hey! If you wanna switch to EP, go for it! We welcome all

KaGaOri · July 3

Non-CP IC on PC/EU: Getting zerged by DC constantly. The two occasions of players camping quest objectives they were both AD. Coincidence? Well, duh! Every alliance will have certain percentage of rear end orifices in it, since that's just how people irl work. It all goes down to who has the upper hand in the campain at the moment you get there and better opportunities for those players to be ... themselves.

Tryxus · July 3

Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

CallmeFishmeal · July 3

Jerkling wrote: »

CallmeFishmeal wrote: »

[...] I can't even step down into the main district area of IC Sewer without 10 EP ganking me within the first 5 secs. I won't try to fight anybody and they just chase me down. [...]

Are you seriously complaining about getting into PvP while in an PvP area? I mean... seriously?

No. I'm complaining that I can't even walk through a door in IC and not be greeted by 8 EP and 10 DC standing right beside the door waiting for AD to walk through so they can farm them. I understand it's PvP.

L_Nici · July 3

Its completely irrelevant which faction you are in, any of them will camp at those spots however they please, any of them zergs one of the campaigns and any of them has that insanely overpowered, too fast, too tanky, unkillable super DDs (Stamcro). Also since its a PvP area that is to be expected. Don't run alone, never use doors unbuffed and so on, especially NBs love to gank you out of loading screen at those. It is cheesy and cowardly and you can be sure those people have a very sad and boring life.
Yesterday I had some EP camping at their Spawn, in the district where it is right above the Gate, so they were untouchable and sniped everyone who used that door with 20 people or something absolutely stupid and then their damage was laughable, didn't even manage to kill me. Being hit by 20 Snipes and still alive and you know, those players have mastered the game.

ZOS_ConnorG · July 3

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