Premade BG's Worse than Ever!

WhitePawPrints · March 2020

Is it just me or are the premades in BG's worse than ever?

For the life of me, I don't understand why ZoS just doesn't introduce a league system. Probably too much work for them to do. A league system would've solved the original issue from the start.

I cannot enter a BG since the "solo queue" without running into teams that are not only extremely coordinated (only possible seen through voice chat), but have very complimenting builds. I'm consistently running into hackers in Ravenwatch, and can't do BG's because I'm always against 1 or 2 teams that show uncanny coordination with meta builds. PvP in this game has gone down the hole because ZoS won't do what is necessary to quell cheaters and to solve legitimate issues!

EDIT: Queue the fragile egos of players with superiority complexes.

Thedragonlolitucker · March 2020

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Is it just me or are the premades in BG's worse than ever?

For the life of me, I don't understand why ZoS just doesn't introduce a league system. Probably too much work for them to do. A league system would've solved the original issue from the start.

I cannot enter a BG since the "solo queue" without running into teams that are not only extremely coordinated (only possible seen through voice chat), but have very complimenting builds. I'm consistently running into hackers in Ravenwatch, and can't do BG's because I'm always against 1 or 2 teams that show uncanny coordination with meta builds. PvP in this game has gone down the hole because ZoS won't do what is necessary to quell cheaters and to solve legitimate issues!

lol

Freakin_Hytte · March 2020

Pre-mades? How is that possible when you can't be in a group while queuing?

relentless_turnip · March 2020

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Is it just me or are the premades in BG's worse than ever?

For the life of me, I don't understand why ZoS just doesn't introduce a league system. Probably too much work for them to do. A league system would've solved the original issue from the start.

I cannot enter a BG since the "solo queue" without running into teams that are not only extremely coordinated (only possible seen through voice chat), but have very complimenting builds. I'm consistently running into hackers in Ravenwatch, and can't do BG's because I'm always against 1 or 2 teams that show uncanny coordination with meta builds. PvP in this game has gone down the hole because ZoS won't do what is necessary to quell cheaters and to solve legitimate issues!

Is this a joke? You can't be paired with a premade group.

I think BG's have been loads more fun, a lot more competitive.
You are running into good players my friend

StormeReigns · March 2020

I'll rate this like I rate my own non meta builds.

4/10 - looks interesting, and might get a few bites, but in the end - Boring and unimaginative.

WhitePawPrints · March 2020

I know you're all not very intelligent by default, and I do not need to explain the innumerable possibilities to bypass a simple "solo" queue.

It doesn't excuse the lack of a league system, or investigating those bypasses and finding a solution.

And queuing into a game in progress is a guaranteed loss, and doesn't give the daily rewards so what is the point of this system?

MurderMostFoul · March 2020

Trolls gonna troll-

Please close this thread.

Axx_Xa · March 2020

This ^

WhitePawPrints · March 2020

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Trolls gonna troll-

Please close this thread.

Ah yes, the person who thinks he's smart by saying "x is x".

Too many white knights on this broken game.

Player: There is x issue with the game.

White Knights: I don't see x, so therefore doesn't exist and is fine. (Or, I exploit x and don't want you to bring attention to it.)

Go watch some flat earth videos and tell us how science is wrong.

Later.

TequilaFire · March 2020

Don't poke the care bears! lol

TheRealCherokeee3 · March 2020

relentless_turnip wrote: »

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

Is it just me or are the premades in BG's worse than ever?

For the life of me, I don't understand why ZoS just doesn't introduce a league system. Probably too much work for them to do. A league system would've solved the original issue from the start.

I cannot enter a BG since the "solo queue" without running into teams that are not only extremely coordinated (only possible seen through voice chat), but have very complimenting builds. I'm consistently running into hackers in Ravenwatch, and can't do BG's because I'm always against 1 or 2 teams that show uncanny coordination with meta builds. PvP in this game has gone down the hole because ZoS won't do what is necessary to quell cheaters and to solve legitimate issues!

Is this a joke? You can't be paired with a premade group.

I think BG's have been loads more fun, a lot more competitive.
You are running into good players my friend

Agreed @relentless_turnip . But not to bash you OP or belittle your frustration. But with Cyro being such a hot mess, alot of well seasoned PvPers switched to BG's. And since so many of those are naturally inclined to mesh with groups well, that's probably why your perceiving it as premades. Agree it sucks though not being able to que up with friends anymore.

StormeReigns · March 2020

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

I know you're all not very intelligent by default, and I do not need to explain the innumerable possibilities to bypass a simple "solo" queue.

Evidence is required to support your statement.

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

It doesn't excuse the lack of a league system, or investigating those bypasses and finding a solution.

As stated by Gina at launch of U25 - want it reverted, or a new queue added, provide continuous and critical suggestions and feedback on how the community as a whole can benefit from it reverting or a second queue added, and to not blindly complain.

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

And queuing into a game in progress is a guaranteed loss, and doesn't give the daily rewards so what is the point of this system?

Random is random. Lost plenty, won plenty.

Kawiki · March 2020

I've seen a few coordinated groups and even have been on some. Overall I'm seeing pretty good matches. The overly difficult groups I have run into have had multiple Templars. Luck of the draw I know but the class seems a bit overturned and when you stack them it makes it that much worse.

Dusk_Coven · March 2020

Just because you must queue solo doesn't mean you can't end up on the same team as your intended teammates, especially if the queue population happens to be low.
And depending on how the queue works, it's possible that 4 people queueing at approximately the same time might be clumped together and get picked up all together or mostly together when they look for similar MMR when all four of them have similar MMR.
It's very possible ZOS just sorts everyone by MMR and grabs 4 at a time to make a team.

If trends can be seen, then people can obviously guess parts of the matchmaking algorithm and exploit it, especially if the queue population happens to be low.
Just wait and see if trends start to surface or if they can be maintained. We're still kind of early in the MMR reset.

relentless_turnip · March 2020

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

I know you're all not very intelligent by default, and I do not need to explain the innumerable possibilities to bypass a simple "solo" queue.

It doesn't excuse the lack of a league system, or investigating those bypasses and finding a solution.

And queuing into a game in progress is a guaranteed loss, and doesn't give the daily rewards so what is the point of this system?

you got out played mate, lots of times apparently...

MurderMostFoul · March 2020

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

MurderMostFoul wrote: »

Trolls gonna troll-

Please close this thread.

Ah yes, the person who thinks he's smart by saying "x is x".

Check out this algebraic prowess:

Potato gonna potato.

Iskiab · March 2020

You aren’t encountering premades, you’re encountering people who know how to pvp.

idk · March 2020

Even though it is impossible to form a premade in BGs due to the solo queue only we still blame BGs for why we majorly outplayed. LOL

Kartalin · March 2020

It varies from one match to another. I saw one player over a series of 3 different matches go from looking top tier (20-0 but in a non-deathmatch) to very good to merely better than average based on the game recaps. The difference? Their teammates and how well they stayed together as a group. If you have teammates running off by themselves and dying, especially in a deathmatch, then likely you’re not going to be the winning team. Good players may struggle with bad teammates. A bad team can get carried by one top tier player. Until the MMR gets sorted it’s all kind of a crapshoot. I was on a team last night where I outdamaged and outhealed all three of my teammates combined. It wasn’t a deathmatch thankfully but we still lost.

jajablast · March 2020

Imagine calling premades when only solo queue is allowed, i think this is a simple skill gap and a being out played. You would be surprised how many people are like incompetent in this game and think otherwise. You must have like 1000 rolls of tp stocked up

Linaleah · March 2020

this actualy took longer to show up than i expected.

dear OP. its not premades. most of the time before solo queue? it was NOT premades either. it was people deciding to work together, usually with one person who knows what they are doing - taking a lead. you do not need to be in voice to follow a a simple strategy and stick together.

stop blaming premades for being outplayed by better players.

sincerely - someone who genuinely sucks at pvp but is not so conceited as to think that it MUST be premade for my team to be doing badly and it cannot possibly be the fact that i just ended up on a team with other not so great players, so there is no lead for us to follow.

Shantu · March 2020

"I know you're all not very intelligent by default" .... Really? Statements like that pretty much nullify any "intelligent" things you imagine you're capable of saying.

ZOS_Ragnar · March 2020

This thread has been closed at the OP's request.