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TIME TO FACE AND ACCEPT THE TRUTH ABOUT GAME PERFORMANCE
Ninrod86
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It is 2020, and the game cant even handle cloaks and swiming LMAO.
The next gen is right at the door, and the truth is ... That the game engine is extremely outdated, it already gave everything it could.
Just take a look around at the most recent MMOS in the market.
Even NCSOFT is remaking L2 on unreal right now.
The most sensate thing Zenimax should do is to simple remake the entire game on a more suitable engine.
But, dont think they ever do it, what we see today in game bussiness are hive minded programers and developers who lack the ability or the courage to try to inovate. They simple follow protocols and " Alchaest premade builds " bussiness models.
Too much potential wasted, sad
The next gen is right at the door, and the truth is ... That the game engine is extremely outdated, it already gave everything it could.
Just take a look around at the most recent MMOS in the market.
Even NCSOFT is remaking L2 on unreal right now.
The most sensate thing Zenimax should do is to simple remake the entire game on a more suitable engine.
But, dont think they ever do it, what we see today in game bussiness are hive minded programers and developers who lack the ability or the courage to try to inovate. They simple follow protocols and " Alchaest premade builds " bussiness models.
Too much potential wasted, sad
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jircris11✭✭✭✭✭
✭It is 2020, and the game cant even handle cloaks and swiming LMAO.
The next gen is right at the door, and the truth is ... That the game engine is extremely outdated, it already gave everything it could.
Just take a look around at the most recent MMOS in the market.
Even NCSOFT is remaking L2 on unreal right now.
The most sensate thing Zenimax should do is to simple remake the entire game on a more suitable engine.
But, dont think they ever do it, what we see today in game bussiness are hive minded programers and developers who lack the ability or the courage to try to inovate. They simple follow protocols and " Alchaest premade builds " bussiness models.
Too much potential wasted, sad
Most companies use their own engines due to the cost. Ncsoft (I worked for them) have an agreement with unreal. They don't take a cut upfront instead they get x amount if cash shop income. Least that's how my director explained it to me. Eso could handle swimming and such IF that's what they wanted to devote man power to. Nothing us as simple as making a code. It's a complex web if steps to make anything g work in a game. Let alone a mmo.IGN: Ki'rah
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DC/AD faction/NA server.
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✭✭✭I could be wrong, but it seems like in the live announcement about the improvements, which takes 4 separate updates throughout an entire year, moving the game to a brand new engine was part of the deal.
Its just a thought, but it Might be a reasonable idea to let them complete ALL of the performance changes, and THEN complain if things run poorly.
But thats just my opinion
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Kidgangster101✭✭✭✭✭
✭barney2525 wrote: »I could be wrong, but it seems like in the live announcement about the improvements, which takes 4 separate updates throughout an entire year, moving the game to a brand new engine was part of the deal.
Its just a thought, but it Might be a reasonable idea to let them complete ALL of the performance changes, and THEN complain if things run poorly.
But thats just my opinion
IMHO
Yeah there is waiting around for them to complete 4 updates.... But ya know it's hard to wait around an entire year when they actually made the game worse......
Maybe they should have listened to console players reporting current problems on console (that are on PC now) or maybe they should have listened to feedback from people on the pts saying stuff was wrong......... But ya know they Ignored it and pushed it out ........
Just like console is asking for it not to come live but they will..........
So how long do you expect people to play again? 1 year of terrible disconnects/moves not firing and dungeons not being able to be completed? Lol yep makes me want to play PVP with my wife.... Oh wait we dc in ic and in cyrodil and we can't que for bgs....... Yep perfect reasons for people to play for an entire year.5 -
Solace1981✭✭✭Solace1981 wrote: »It is 2020, and the game cant even handle cloaks and swiming LMAO.
The next gen is right at the door, and the truth is ... That the game engine is extremely outdated, it already gave everything it could.
Just take a look around at the most recent MMOS in the market.
Even NCSOFT is remaking L2 on unreal right now.
The most sensate thing Zenimax should do is to simple remake the entire game on a more suitable engine.
But, dont think they ever do it, what we see today in game bussiness are hive minded programers and developers who lack the ability or the courage to try to inovate. They simple follow protocols and " Alchaest premade builds " bussiness models.
Too much potential wasted, sad
Most companies use their own engines due to the cost. Ncsoft (I worked for them) have an agreement with unreal. They don't take a cut upfront instead they get x amount if cash shop income. Least that's how my director explained it to me. Eso could handle swimming and such IF that's what they wanted to devote man power to. Nothing us as simple as making a code. It's a complex web if steps to make anything g work in a game. Let alone a mmo.
Completely unrelated but I'm convinced you're a psychopath. You've been a dev for 26 years, community manager for blizz, dev for NC soft, CSR for some energy company, Apple support, and somehow you work 6 days a week at the firehouse? Everything you post is a lie.
Think as you wish, I simply have done more with my life then most mainly due to getting bored and trying to find a job that keeps me busy. I could go on and explain it all but I'd be wasting time. When it comes to what I have done you are assuming my age with no knowledge of it. So please continue to be ignorant.
Same old line. You're also a mute, missing 3 fingers on your left hand, have ADHD and depression. Seriously man, get some help. Lying on the forums doesn't make you cool.9 -
Solace1981✭✭✭
Completely unrelated but I'm convinced you're a psychopath. You've been a dev for 26 years, community manager for blizz, dev for NC soft, CSR for some energy company, Apple support, and somehow you work 6 days a week at the firehouse? Everything you post is a lie.[/quote]
Think as you wish, I simply have done more with my life then most mainly due to getting bored and trying to find a job that keeps me busy. I could go on and explain it all but I'd be wasting time. When it comes to what I have done you are assuming my age with no knowledge of it. So please continue to be ignorant. [/quote]
Same old line. You're also a mute, missing 3 fingers on your left hand, have ADHD and depression. Seriously man, get some help. Lying on the forums doesn't make you cool.[/quote]
Also, I'd like to mention that in 2016 you posted in a thread that you were 29 so...... not to mention all the other lies you have been spewing on these forums. You have completely lost all credibility my man.
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SosRuvaak✭✭✭✭✭been here since beta, up until a month ago.
im not surprised to see the current updates making it worse and worse, it really is insanity to think this isnt a moneyhole now.For the Pact!
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PunkAben✭✭✭Please Zenimax please please do never try to improve the performance again.The good news about computers is that they do what you tell them to do.The bad news is that they do what you tell them to do.
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MartiniDaniels✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESO is huge. Well, like other suggested I guess they can re-make PVP zones on another engine and have it as parallel game with character synced with PVE servers. But to remake entire game.. no chance.0 -
thissocalledflower✭✭✭✭Vulkan, Vulkan, Vulkan!After careful consideration (and oh! so much deliberation) we have concluded that you circumstance sounds too much like a l2p issue for it to be just a mere coincidence.1 -
nolangrady✭✭✭barney2525 wrote: »I could be wrong, but it seems like in the live announcement about the improvements, which takes 4 separate updates throughout an entire year, moving the game to a brand new engine was part of the deal.
Its just a thought, but it Might be a reasonable idea to let them complete ALL of the performance changes, and THEN complain if things run poorly.
But thats just my opinion
IMHO
This is why you guys continue to deal with these unacceptable business practices. I don’t understand after 6 years that you can’t grasp that this situation will NEVER improve? Every year people say just wait for this patch or that update before criticizing management. At year 6 all of you have earned the right to complain and hopefully send a message by not purchasing the upcoming DLC. How anyone can pre-order a DLC in this current game state is beyond me.3 -
Tapio75✭✭✭✭✭
✭Most notable performance issues come from allowing too many players on one instance. Yes it is an MMO but that does not mean there needs to be dozens of player on small instances.
Can easily notice this is true ny just playing. Often there is an area you are questing in, which seems calm and have litle player population. Performance is good. Then the server decides ypou have too few "friends" on that instance, so it ends your low population instance and moves you to high population instead. The FPS loss on my part is going from +60 fps to average of 30. Sometimes even less, if there is even bigger population.
The Hero engine we are playoing in, had major issues handling large populations from the start. In SWTOR, this meant the game did not allow big PvP battles because the number of players was too great for the engine. Zeni has improved the engine quite a BIT, BUT THE UYNDERLYING ISSUES STILL EMERGE SOMETIMES BE IT ABILITY DELAY OR JUST PLAIN fps LOSS FROM AMOUNT OF PLAYER
Sorry. Did not notivce caps there but i wont retyåpe all that as im visually impaired and typing and reading is hard enough.
Anyways. Solution is not to use some other engine like Unreal or others that are not made by the game developers themselves. Solution is to either lessen the number of players on any instance of any area or just redo the game on the engine the game designers have spcifically made for this game.>>PC-EU Mostly PVE. Played since BETA<<1 -
Stevie6✭✭✭✭Bethesda/ZOS could open up another server in Texas and call it NA PC 2. It would alleviate over population on the NAPC server which would in turn reduce lag. As it is, the game is unplayable.0
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ZOS_Ragnar✭✭✭✭✭We have closed this thread as there is already an active discussion on game performance here.
Also, If you have not done so already, please be sure to check out ESO's Performance Improvement Plan.Edited by ZOS_Ragnar on March 7, 2020 2:41PMThe Elder Scrolls Online - ZeniMax Online Studios
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