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Skullstachio wrote: »

Deaden pain requires corpses to work and they are usually scarce unless the player in particular is focused around skills like spirit mender, skeletal mage, Blastbones and bone armor.

Haha you mean the main damage ability, the armour buff and the 10% mitigation/heal pet? Those are literally run on every PvP necro, nice argument

Ankael07 wrote: »

Best case scenario; you wait for enemy NPCs to die then consume 6 corpses for 12 seconds of protection.

Most of the times; your Blastbone explodes every 3 seconds and you get 2 seconds of protection by spending 2 seconds of GCD

Worst case scenario; you already need your corpses for another skill, youre too busy running away from a zerg to turn back, cast a Blastbone and get the protection ( it has 12 meter radius so you cant move around freely)


In short the skill is working as intended for a 'stand-your-ground' type of class

How often are you sprinting in a straight line with no cover around? Kiting is usually done in a tower or around a large tree or set of rocks, in which case you are passing around the same place in a continuous circle, giving you the chance to pass around it, plus you get guards, other pets and other people that die as a chance to use it, near a zerg I have gotten like 16 seconds of major protection with 2 procs of the ability, kind of makes pirate Skeleton look tame now.

Corpse mechanic is horribly clunky in pvp not sure why you'd be angry at Deaden Pain when Blackrose DW exists lol

Icky wrote: »

I like how they nerfed sources of major defile but not major protection.

They nerfed major defile from everything...... except necro! Which now has about a 50% uptime on pts with the blastbones fix

Ankael07 wrote: »

Best case scenario; you wait for enemy NPCs to die then consume 6 corpses for 12 seconds of protection.

Most of the times; your Blastbone explodes every 3 seconds and you get 2 seconds of protection by spending 2 seconds of GCD

Worst case scenario; you already need your corpses for another skill, youre too busy running away from a zerg to turn back, cast a Blastbone and get the protection ( it has 12 meter radius so you cant move around freely)


In short the skill is working as intended for a 'stand-your-ground' type of class

The people who dont even play necro/stamnecro dont really care if its actually balanced or not, they are chomping at the bit for nerfs to a class they see as competition. same deal with sorcs, remember when nerf sorc happened so often over and over it was a meme?

Icky wrote: »

wheem_ESO wrote: »

Icky wrote: »

I like how they nerfed sources of major defile but not major protection.

Pirate Skeleton and Steadfast Hero both say hello. It's really just the "Stamina only" source of Major Protection from BRP Dual Wield that dodged the nerf bat somehow.
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Yeah they both said hello because they both still have major protection. Major defile was removed from a lot of things (except necro, a paid class go figure).

You said that sources of Major Protection weren't nerfed, though they very clearly were. When's the last time you saw someone actually wearing Pirate Skeleton? It'd make the set far more useful if they removed the Major Protection entirely and changed the effect to something else. Then perhaps we'd see defensive monster sets other than Bloodspawn (and maybe Chudan in a few cases) get some real use.

If you really think the Necromancer class is oh-so-wonderful (as opposed to Stamina Necromancer only, as I keep trying to explain to the uninformed), I invite you to go play a Magicka Necromancer in PvP against competent opposition. Then come back and tell us how you think the class was totally worth $40, given how badly you were crushing everyone.

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BRP Dual Wield can give any Stamina build better uptime on Major Protection - 100% on demand - than Deaden Pain can do for a Magicka Necromancer.

You should've seen it used with hunt leader (sustain from your pets) paired with steadfast hero before they extended the cooldown on steadfast. You could even run an arena weapon and back bar steadfast.

wheem_ESO wrote: »

Icky wrote: »

wheem_ESO wrote: »

Icky wrote: »

I like how they nerfed sources of major defile but not major protection.

Pirate Skeleton and Steadfast Hero both say hello. It's really just the "Stamina only" source of Major Protection from BRP Dual Wield that dodged the nerf bat somehow.
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Yeah they both said hello because they both still have major protection. Major defile was removed from a lot of things (except necro, a paid class go figure).

You said that sources of Major Protection weren't nerfed, though they very clearly were. When's the last time you saw someone actually wearing Pirate Skeleton? It'd make the set far more useful if they removed the Major Protection entirely and changed the effect to something else. Then perhaps we'd see defensive monster sets other than Bloodspawn (and maybe Chudan in a few cases) get some real use.

If you really think the Necromancer class is oh-so-wonderful (as opposed to Stamina Necromancer only, as I keep trying to explain to the uninformed), I invite you to go play a Magicka Necromancer in PvP against competent opposition. Then come back and tell us how you think the class was totally worth $40, given how badly you were crushing everyone.

PS
BRP Dual Wield can give any Stamina build better uptime on Major Protection - 100% on demand - than Deaden Pain can do for a Magicka Necromancer.

Ill take sword and board nearly 40% block cost mitigation over brp dual wield any day, sword and board has ransack, minor protection and major fracture for1k stam cost. Really complaining about magcro? 3x gold harmony is probably better than any 5 piece bonus to buff one ability