JumpmanLane wrote: »You only need to watch a live stream or longer video from some small-scalers / 1vXers, for example Khyleo, to see him vehemently QQ about it. Of course, in his mind, he doesn't view it that way. What he says is: "Look at that player over there: He's zerging. So sad. He didn't use to do that. The culture in this game has really gone to s h * t." I am paraphrasing.
Recently a player picked me up in IC and I had some great AvAs with him and his mate. After about an hour I was unceremoniously dumped from the group. I queried that. Apparently the main reason was that I attacked everyone, whereas they did not.
I find YouTube montages very misleading. From my ingame perspective, I quite often see an unorganised zerg trying to kill a 1vXer or some small-scalers and failing miserably. In those cases I jump in and frequently end up scoring kills. I have no qualms about zerging. I play for my faction. I am the kind of person Khyleo would complain about, if I played on his server and he knew me.
This game is divided into various cliques. There is what I would loosely call the small-scaler establishment. It isn't a single monolithic entity, but as in the above example some top players will not engage each other for various reasons, be it that they have cross-faction friends or a code of honor. That's fine, but people can get themselves into the mindset that the rules and norms from their social bubble should apply to the whole game and become rather toxic as a result.
This is against the backdrop of fighting outnumbered being really hard. It's arguably only made possible by fighting relatively unskilled and unorganised players. Everyone admits that, I think. What is less talked about is that open-world encounters aren't entirely random, because the good players, who happen to be on the scene, may be in the 1vXers social bubble and, therefore, leave them alone. I think this may be a contributary factor to your observation that 1vXers only ever fight the same groups of unskilled or mediocre players - ones from a different bubble.
As an aside, I main a cloaking nightblade. I think players who do that are perhaps outsiders by disposition and gravitated towards the class for that reason. I sure did. It's perhaps one more reason why "everyone" hates nightblades.
When people QQ, when they tell you that you are a zergling and challenge you to a duel after they died, a part of that comes from their indignation that you have broken the rules of their bubble. 1vXing is hard, but it shouldn't be this hard, right? In my view, I am keeping them honest.
Oh yeah, THAT. Well...they were 1vXing until they died. THEN they got zerged down lol.
People out there trying to protect their fragile little egos.
Are small scalers or 1vX primarily blue and red? I am an equal opportunity killer and attack anyone who isn’t on my faction, but I see blue and red not fight each other all the time. I’ve also never met someone in game who’s against faction locks as an AD on PC-NA, but lots of people complain about it on the forums.
As a guess, are people who dislike faction locks and 1vX mainly people who like jumping between red and blue... on PC-NA?
It’s hard to tell because maybe other factions see AD do the same things, but I’m not one of them.
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JumpmanLane wrote: »JumpmanLane wrote: »You only need to watch a live stream or longer video from some small-scalers / 1vXers, for example Khyleo, to see him vehemently QQ about it. Of course, in his mind, he doesn't view it that way. What he says is: "Look at that player over there: He's zerging. So sad. He didn't use to do that. The culture in this game has really gone to s h * t." I am paraphrasing.
Recently a player picked me up in IC and I had some great AvAs with him and his mate. After about an hour I was unceremoniously dumped from the group. I queried that. Apparently the main reason was that I attacked everyone, whereas they did not.
I find YouTube montages very misleading. From my ingame perspective, I quite often see an unorganised zerg trying to kill a 1vXer or some small-scalers and failing miserably. In those cases I jump in and frequently end up scoring kills. I have no qualms about zerging. I play for my faction. I am the kind of person Khyleo would complain about, if I played on his server and he knew me.
This game is divided into various cliques. There is what I would loosely call the small-scaler establishment. It isn't a single monolithic entity, but as in the above example some top players will not engage each other for various reasons, be it that they have cross-faction friends or a code of honor. That's fine, but people can get themselves into the mindset that the rules and norms from their social bubble should apply to the whole game and become rather toxic as a result.
This is against the backdrop of fighting outnumbered being really hard. It's arguably only made possible by fighting relatively unskilled and unorganised players. Everyone admits that, I think. What is less talked about is that open-world encounters aren't entirely random, because the good players, who happen to be on the scene, may be in the 1vXers social bubble and, therefore, leave them alone. I think this may be a contributary factor to your observation that 1vXers only ever fight the same groups of unskilled or mediocre players - ones from a different bubble.
As an aside, I main a cloaking nightblade. I think players who do that are perhaps outsiders by disposition and gravitated towards the class for that reason. I sure did. It's perhaps one more reason why "everyone" hates nightblades.
When people QQ, when they tell you that you are a zergling and challenge you to a duel after they died, a part of that comes from their indignation that you have broken the rules of their bubble. 1vXing is hard, but it shouldn't be this hard, right? In my view, I am keeping them honest.
Oh yeah, THAT. Well...they were 1vXing until they died. THEN they got zerged down lol.
People out there trying to protect their fragile little egos.
Are small scalers or 1vX primarily blue and red? I am an equal opportunity killer and attack anyone who isn’t on my faction, but I see blue and red not fight each other all the time. I’ve also never met someone in game who’s against faction locks as an AD on PC-NA, but lots of people complain about it on the forums.
As a guess, are people who dislike faction locks and 1vX mainly people who like jumping between red and blue... on PC-NA?
It’s hard to tell because maybe other factions see AD do the same things, but I’m not one of them.
I think it’s more like the guy said before: the lil rule where you leave certain people alone. I think it started because folks don’t want to die. They want to happily hunt unskilled players and try to kill them outnumbered.
I can count on my hand the number of players who can actually fight and kill skillful players solo, PCNA. The rest are purposely fighting potatoes.
I agree with you. If you set foot in Cyro, be prepared to fight. If you run around Cyro completely solo looking to fight outnumbered, FIGHT OUTNUMBERED then. Don’t whine when you die!
Goregrinder wrote: »That's like most 1vX montages on youtube anyways, usually against potatos. Followed by "I might release my OP build if my IG gets 1,000 likes and shares...."
1vX has always been about finding several players that are very inferior to you in either skill or gear, and beat them.
Logically, if you try to fight just two people with whom you would normally have a prolonged 30 sec + long duel with, before finishing, you have zero chance at winning that 1v2 fight.
There is then the odd thing about gear. If you manage to pack enough cheese, you may be able to do a 1vX with players of same skill - because your gear is elevating you to a higher bracket.
But basically equal skill and equal gear means that you can take on only one enemy. End of story.
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Oh right, and for the question;
No i would never QQ. I could rage a bit to myself if the loss was due to lag or something like that. But being killed in 1vX scenarios happens all the time. Even when you die, it is often still a small victory, because maybe you managed to take out 3 of the 6 opponents before taking an unlucky ulti combo or something. For a 1vX’er there can be victory even in death.