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New minion idea
drwoody44b14_ESO
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A new pig minion [snip] for 12000 crowns. This pig grants anyone who purchases access to a premium dungeon que service that is outside of the base game que system. It also provides an account wide 10 extra horse trains past the maximum. Limited time release!
[Edit for click bait.]
Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on November 15, 2019 1:30AM [Edit for click bait.]
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daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.5 -
karthrag_inak✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
PC-NA : 19 Khajiit and 1 Fishy-cat with fluffy delusions. cp3600
GM of Imperial Gold Reserve trading guild (started in 2017) since 2/2022
Come visit Karth's Glitter Box, Khajiit's home. Fully stocked guild hall done in sleek Khajiit stylings, with Grand Master Stations, Transmute, Scribing, Trial Dummies, etc. Also has 2 full bowling alleys, nightclub, and floating maze over Wrothgar.(Pariah's Pinacle)2 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.6 -
jircris11✭✭✭✭✭
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I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on November 15, 2019 1:33AMIGN: Ki'rah
Khajiit/Vampire
DC/AD faction/NA server.
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Goregrinder✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
You imply that I see buying crowns as an investment. I am willing them giving them my money for enjoyment in return. Think of it as a donation to ZOS, but I get something out of it. When the servers finally sunset, it will be the same as when SWG sunset for me. I will move on to the next game I can throw money at.1 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.
I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.
Item creep and then selling ESO+ with vastly increased inventory is dishonest, as ZOS have the sole control of how many items there are and how much space to keep them. There are several examples of items introduced for no other purpose than to exhaust storage space: motif pages and fragments, unrefined style, trait and improvement materials, etc. None of these existed on launch and they multiply the space required by at least an order of magnitude.
Unregulated time-limited offers are dishonest as they appeal to impulse purchases. Outside of games many countries have strict rules regarding these kinds of sales. They may make sense to clear physical inventory and make room for new goods, but make zero sense for digital goods that can be produced at essentially zero cost and take up zero space.
Selling consumables for real money is dishonest as it creates a bottomless pit with no limit to how much players can spend, and with zero connection to ZOS' cost to produce the purchased items. In addition, some consumables, such as riding lessons, address issues that ZOS made more inconvenient than at launch.
Random loot crates are dishonest because they aren't transparent and they rely on addictive and compulsive behaviour from players.
Gem items are dishonest because they force players to buy loot crates, destroy the useless rewards, then use a third-degree currency (from real money, to crowns, then to gems) which obscures the real price of items.
Need I go on? Educate yourself. Microtransactions are not benevolent. They are a very deliberate, very well studied form of increasing revenue without increasing costs. You are getting less for more money. And so is everyone else who, like me, rejects microtransactions but still has to bear the consequences of them if they want to play the game as a simple monthly subscriber.4 -
wolfie1.0.✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.
I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.
Item creep and then selling ESO+ with vastly increased inventory is dishonest, as ZOS have the sole control of how many items there are and how much space to keep them. There are several examples of items introduced for no other purpose than to exhaust storage space: motif pages and fragments, unrefined style, trait and improvement materials, etc. None of these existed on launch and they multiply the space required by at least an order of magnitude.
Unregulated time-limited offers are dishonest as they appeal to impulse purchases. Outside of games many countries have strict rules regarding these kinds of sales. They may make sense to clear physical inventory and make room for new goods, but make zero sense for digital goods that can be produced at essentially zero cost and take up zero space.
Selling consumables for real money is dishonest as it creates a bottomless pit with no limit to how much players can spend, and with zero connection to ZOS' cost to produce the purchased items. In addition, some consumables, such as riding lessons, address issues that ZOS made more inconvenient than at launch.
Random loot crates are dishonest because they aren't transparent and they rely on addictive and compulsive behaviour from players.
Gem items are dishonest because they force players to buy loot crates, destroy the useless rewards, then use a third-degree currency (from real money, to crowns, then to gems) which obscures the real price of items.
Need I go on? Educate yourself. Microtransactions are not benevolent. They are a very deliberate, very well studied form of increasing revenue without increasing costs. You are getting less for more money. And so is everyone else who, like me, rejects microtransactions but still has to bear the consequences of them if they want to play the game as a simple monthly subscriber.
And yet you are still here. Even players that never buy crowns and log in are supporting the actions of ZOS. One could make an argument that simply having a forum account supports ZOS "corrupt" actions since it means that at one time you gave them money for the game.2 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭wtlonewolf20 wrote: »karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.
I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.
Item creep and then selling ESO+ with vastly increased inventory is dishonest, as ZOS have the sole control of how many items there are and how much space to keep them. There are several examples of items introduced for no other purpose than to exhaust storage space: motif pages and fragments, unrefined style, trait and improvement materials, etc. None of these existed on launch and they multiply the space required by at least an order of magnitude.
Unregulated time-limited offers are dishonest as they appeal to impulse purchases. Outside of games many countries have strict rules regarding these kinds of sales. They may make sense to clear physical inventory and make room for new goods, but make zero sense for digital goods that can be produced at essentially zero cost and take up zero space.
Selling consumables for real money is dishonest as it creates a bottomless pit with no limit to how much players can spend, and with zero connection to ZOS' cost to produce the purchased items. In addition, some consumables, such as riding lessons, address issues that ZOS made more inconvenient than at launch.
Random loot crates are dishonest because they aren't transparent and they rely on addictive and compulsive behaviour from players.
Gem items are dishonest because they force players to buy loot crates, destroy the useless rewards, then use a third-degree currency (from real money, to crowns, then to gems) which obscures the real price of items.
Need I go on? Educate yourself. Microtransactions are not benevolent. They are a very deliberate, very well studied form of increasing revenue without increasing costs. You are getting less for more money. And so is everyone else who, like me, rejects microtransactions but still has to bear the consequences of them if they want to play the game as a simple monthly subscriber.
And yet you are still here. Even players that never buy crowns and log in are supporting the actions of ZOS. One could make an argument that simply having a forum account supports ZOS "corrupt" actions since it means that at one time you gave them money for the game.
Let us assume you got a point here. Even then nothing can be changed, since we are not the owners of our accounts.
We cannot close our accounts by ourselves, they will be held active by Zeni.0 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »wtlonewolf20 wrote: »karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.
I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.
Item creep and then selling ESO+ with vastly increased inventory is dishonest, as ZOS have the sole control of how many items there are and how much space to keep them. There are several examples of items introduced for no other purpose than to exhaust storage space: motif pages and fragments, unrefined style, trait and improvement materials, etc. None of these existed on launch and they multiply the space required by at least an order of magnitude.
Unregulated time-limited offers are dishonest as they appeal to impulse purchases. Outside of games many countries have strict rules regarding these kinds of sales. They may make sense to clear physical inventory and make room for new goods, but make zero sense for digital goods that can be produced at essentially zero cost and take up zero space.
Selling consumables for real money is dishonest as it creates a bottomless pit with no limit to how much players can spend, and with zero connection to ZOS' cost to produce the purchased items. In addition, some consumables, such as riding lessons, address issues that ZOS made more inconvenient than at launch.
Random loot crates are dishonest because they aren't transparent and they rely on addictive and compulsive behaviour from players.
Gem items are dishonest because they force players to buy loot crates, destroy the useless rewards, then use a third-degree currency (from real money, to crowns, then to gems) which obscures the real price of items.
Need I go on? Educate yourself. Microtransactions are not benevolent. They are a very deliberate, very well studied form of increasing revenue without increasing costs. You are getting less for more money. And so is everyone else who, like me, rejects microtransactions but still has to bear the consequences of them if they want to play the game as a simple monthly subscriber.
And yet you are still here. Even players that never buy crowns and log in are supporting the actions of ZOS. One could make an argument that simply having a forum account supports ZOS "corrupt" actions since it means that at one time you gave them money for the game.
Let us assume you got a point here. Even then nothing can be changed, since we are not the owners of our accounts.
We cannot close our accounts by ourselves, they will be held active by Zeni.
Ban yourself through being a bad person for 5 minutes. Shouldn't be all that hard, even without offending anyone directly.0 -
Araneae6537✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.
I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.
Item creep and then selling ESO+ with vastly increased inventory is dishonest, as ZOS have the sole control of how many items there are and how much space to keep them. There are several examples of items introduced for no other purpose than to exhaust storage space: motif pages and fragments, unrefined style, trait and improvement materials, etc. None of these existed on launch and they multiply the space required by at least an order of magnitude.
Unregulated time-limited offers are dishonest as they appeal to impulse purchases. Outside of games many countries have strict rules regarding these kinds of sales. They may make sense to clear physical inventory and make room for new goods, but make zero sense for digital goods that can be produced at essentially zero cost and take up zero space.
Selling consumables for real money is dishonest as it creates a bottomless pit with no limit to how much players can spend, and with zero connection to ZOS' cost to produce the purchased items. In addition, some consumables, such as riding lessons, address issues that ZOS made more inconvenient than at launch.
Random loot crates are dishonest because they aren't transparent and they rely on addictive and compulsive behaviour from players.
Gem items are dishonest because they force players to buy loot crates, destroy the useless rewards, then use a third-degree currency (from real money, to crowns, then to gems) which obscures the real price of items.
Need I go on? Educate yourself. Microtransactions are not benevolent. They are a very deliberate, very well studied form of increasing revenue without increasing costs. You are getting less for more money. And so is everyone else who, like me, rejects microtransactions but still has to bear the consequences of them if they want to play the game as a simple monthly subscriber.
At launch having a sub was the only way to play ESO, was it not? So they made a F2P lite version if you will, which includes half inventory capacity. I agree that inventory ought to be increased overall but making full features ESO+ only is hardly dishonest and if you want it as it was at lunch then there would be no F2P option at all, right?
And wow, when I’d thought I’d heard everything, now “unregulated limited time offers” are dishonest??? That is ridiculous.
And selling any consumables for money, whether they be cosmetics or the game itself — or movies, concerts, etc. — is not dishonest. It’s entertainment. If you think it’s “dishonest” then wtf are you wasting your time here for??? Oh, wait, ZOS tricked you into it, right? And you couldn’t help yourself.
There is plenty I think could be better in the game, including what is purchaseable and how and agree that some of these things seem to have a detrimental impact on the game, but hyperbole and troll posts serve no purpose that I can see.1 -
Salvas_Aren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Salvas_Aren wrote: »wtlonewolf20 wrote: »karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.
I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.
Item creep and then selling ESO+ with vastly increased inventory is dishonest, as ZOS have the sole control of how many items there are and how much space to keep them. There are several examples of items introduced for no other purpose than to exhaust storage space: motif pages and fragments, unrefined style, trait and improvement materials, etc. None of these existed on launch and they multiply the space required by at least an order of magnitude.
Unregulated time-limited offers are dishonest as they appeal to impulse purchases. Outside of games many countries have strict rules regarding these kinds of sales. They may make sense to clear physical inventory and make room for new goods, but make zero sense for digital goods that can be produced at essentially zero cost and take up zero space.
Selling consumables for real money is dishonest as it creates a bottomless pit with no limit to how much players can spend, and with zero connection to ZOS' cost to produce the purchased items. In addition, some consumables, such as riding lessons, address issues that ZOS made more inconvenient than at launch.
Random loot crates are dishonest because they aren't transparent and they rely on addictive and compulsive behaviour from players.
Gem items are dishonest because they force players to buy loot crates, destroy the useless rewards, then use a third-degree currency (from real money, to crowns, then to gems) which obscures the real price of items.
Need I go on? Educate yourself. Microtransactions are not benevolent. They are a very deliberate, very well studied form of increasing revenue without increasing costs. You are getting less for more money. And so is everyone else who, like me, rejects microtransactions but still has to bear the consequences of them if they want to play the game as a simple monthly subscriber.
And yet you are still here. Even players that never buy crowns and log in are supporting the actions of ZOS. One could make an argument that simply having a forum account supports ZOS "corrupt" actions since it means that at one time you gave them money for the game.
Let us assume you got a point here. Even then nothing can be changed, since we are not the owners of our accounts.
We cannot close our accounts by ourselves, they will be held active by Zeni.
Ban yourself through being a bad person for 5 minutes. Shouldn't be all that hard, even without offending anyone directly.
I don't like the idea of a gravestone with BANNED on it, but if I were keen on the idea, I would already know my target in question.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭karthrag_inak wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I'd buy it tbh just to have it.
Since you seem to feel you have to post everywhere about how you buy clowns left and right, I just want to say you make me feel happy about the day ESO shuts down and takes your clown store purchases with it.
Because he's trolling several threads where people are stating their dissatisfaction. And also because I have a longstanding contempt of people who validate this trash, dishonest microtransactions-based model of financing games. The results are plain for everyone to see: if you like fluff, life is good. If you like games, not so much.
I'm sorry but where is the dishonesty in terms of the cash shop, it's not p2w vs some mmos out there. Nor is it overly mandatory, I mean look at swtor for examples on how to NOT have it set up. Or AA or BDO or any browser game. Hell console games have entered that realm. But eso has remained rather light on p2w and mandatory purchases. It's amazing, been playing mmos since ultimata and over the years I have watched gamers turn in to nothing but sheep that cling on to what they think or hear vs what is actual fact.
Item creep and then selling ESO+ with vastly increased inventory is dishonest, as ZOS have the sole control of how many items there are and how much space to keep them. There are several examples of items introduced for no other purpose than to exhaust storage space: motif pages and fragments, unrefined style, trait and improvement materials, etc. None of these existed on launch and they multiply the space required by at least an order of magnitude.
Unregulated time-limited offers are dishonest as they appeal to impulse purchases. Outside of games many countries have strict rules regarding these kinds of sales. They may make sense to clear physical inventory and make room for new goods, but make zero sense for digital goods that can be produced at essentially zero cost and take up zero space.
Selling consumables for real money is dishonest as it creates a bottomless pit with no limit to how much players can spend, and with zero connection to ZOS' cost to produce the purchased items. In addition, some consumables, such as riding lessons, address issues that ZOS made more inconvenient than at launch.
Random loot crates are dishonest because they aren't transparent and they rely on addictive and compulsive behaviour from players.
Gem items are dishonest because they force players to buy loot crates, destroy the useless rewards, then use a third-degree currency (from real money, to crowns, then to gems) which obscures the real price of items.
Need I go on? Educate yourself. Microtransactions are not benevolent. They are a very deliberate, very well studied form of increasing revenue without increasing costs. You are getting less for more money. And so is everyone else who, like me, rejects microtransactions but still has to bear the consequences of them if they want to play the game as a simple monthly subscriber.
At launch having a sub was the only way to play ESO, was it not? So they made a F2P lite version if you will, which includes half inventory capacity. I agree that inventory ought to be increased overall but making full features ESO+ only is hardly dishonest and if you want it as it was at lunch then there would be no F2P option at all, right?
And wow, when I’d thought I’d heard everything, now “unregulated limited time offers” are dishonest??? That is ridiculous.
And selling any consumables for money, whether they be cosmetics or the game itself — or movies, concerts, etc. — is not dishonest. It’s entertainment. If you think it’s “dishonest” then wtf are you wasting your time here for??? Oh, wait, ZOS tricked you into it, right? And you couldn’t help yourself.
There is plenty I think could be better in the game, including what is purchaseable and how and agree that some of these things seem to have a detrimental impact on the game, but hyperbole and troll posts serve no purpose that I can see.
Minor point of order: ESO was already Buy2Play when the Crafting Bag and additional bank space was added to the Sub.
Buy2Play and Tamriel Unlimited was March 2015.
Craft Bag was Update 10: Dark Brotherhood.
Double Bank Space was Update 14: Morrowind.
So the Buy2Play option did NOT have a halved inventory from the beginning. Rather, increased inventory was added as a benefit to ESO+ over time.1 -
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