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The community could resolve the performance issues in ESO if we sticked togehter
Mariusghost84
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The Ironic thing is, if we all just agreed on stop paying for ESO (including crowns) until the performance issues are resolved - it would give ZOS the right motivation to fix the performance issues and do whatever it takes to finally make the game work smooth once and for all. I've spent thousands of dollars on this game and i WANT to keep playing it but my motivation to log in gets smaller by the day due to no being able to use LFG for dungeons and BGs.
Do you think its possible for us to start a movement that would make a difference? This would include not buying any crowns at all and not subscribing to ESO +.
Edited by Mariusghost84 on November 7, 2019 11:10AM Do you think its possible for us to start a movement that would make a difference? This would include not buying any crowns at all and not subscribing to ESO +.
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Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I appreciate the sentinment but I'm afraid as far as most businesses go, once a product no longer makes money, the business no longer makes/supports the product.
You can still find Saturns and Pontiacs and Oldsmobiles around, but GM no longer makes parts or guarantees service for those vehicles. Just food for thought."It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard2 -
MajBludd✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Good luck.
How do you propose we get pve and pvp players to stop with the stupid back and forth?
This game will die. That is a fact.0 -
Darkenarlol✭✭✭✭✭
✭or they can just shut down the servers due lack of profit
some people doesn't find this a problem and will easily jump to next FOTM game
some people loves ESO and invested a lot of time and money into the game
you can do whatever you want but please stop this "we all should..." agitation and propaganda
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Asys✭✭✭✭Mariusghost84 wrote: »The Ironic thing is, if we all just agreed on stop paying for ESO (including crowns) until the performance issues are resolved - it would give ZOS the right motivation to fix the performance issues and do whatever it takes to finally make the game work smooth once and for all. I've spent thousands of dollars on this game and i WANT to keep playing it but my motivation to log in gets smaller by the day due to no being able to use LFG for dungeons and BGs.
Do you think its possible for us to start a movement that would make a difference? This would include not buying any crowns at all and not subscribing to ESO +.
it will never happen. The majority that plays this game is not very bright.Proud member of the IDGAF+ community1 -
Mariusghost84✭✭✭✭✭Darkenarlol wrote: »or they can just shut down the servers due lack of profit
some people doesn't find this a problem and will easily jump to next FOTM game
some people loves ESO and invested a lot of time and money into the game
you can do whatever you want but please stop this "we all should..." agitation and propaganda
have a nice day
You are crazy if you think they would shut down the servers due to this. The leadership would set fixing the preformance issues as a primary goal if enough people left due to this.
I am 100% sure this would work. I am also almost 100% sure its not possible to mobilize enough ppl to make a difference. Propaganda lol. You make it sound like im scheaming some grand masterplan. Im simply sharing thoughts in a thread thats read by 44 people.
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Suryoyo✭✭✭Yes you're right players can resolve the issue:
As we all know sorcs are by far the majority (noob friendly class, auto kill button) and warden has probably now surpassed DKs and close in number to Templars.
These two classes, sorcs and wardens have pets.
Especially sorcs, the server has to do 2 or 3 times the work it usually does for a non pet class. It has to handle the pets, their cd, dots or whatever, so the fix is to get rid of pets all together, for the moment, since ZOS is unable to release something without breaking multiple functionalities, sorcs and wardens should not play pets. It's magic, a simple solution until zos delete the pets.
Just imagine how lagodiil would perform if there were no pets ? It would be Cirodiil again.
The EU server could increase its lifespan to like 2 months, who knows.0 -
Darsaga✭✭✭Yes you're right players can resolve the issue:
As we all know sorcs are by far the majority (noob friendly class, auto kill button) and warden has probably now surpassed DKs and close in number to Templars.
These two classes, sorcs and wardens have pets.
Especially sorcs, the server has to do 2 or 3 times the work it usually does for a non pet class. It has to handle the pets, their cd, dots or whatever, so the fix is to get rid of pets all together, for the moment, since ZOS is unable to release something without breaking multiple functionalities, sorcs and wardens should not play pets. It's magic, a simple solution until zos delete the pets.
Just imagine how lagodiil would perform if there were no pets ? It would be Cirodiil again.
The EU server could increase its lifespan to like 2 months, who knows.
The fact you believe removing pets or changing their function will help the lag is hilarious. They crushed DoTs probably to make people get them off their rotations to remove these calculations you say will help. Yet in a burst meta we still can’t bar swap, cc break, and health dysnc. None of their 9 month performance plan will actually address ping. They are trying to bandaid the problem by changing core functions within the game.
A simple traceroute shows my ping at 25-40ms to ZOS front door then it more than doubles to 80-120 at best, but under any load easily jumps to 180+. This happens to everyone the problem is obviously in their server room.
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes you're right players can resolve the issue:
As we all know sorcs are by far the majority (noob friendly class, auto kill button) and warden has probably now surpassed DKs and close in number to Templars.
These two classes, sorcs and wardens have pets.
Especially sorcs, the server has to do 2 or 3 times the work it usually does for a non pet class. It has to handle the pets, their cd, dots or whatever, so the fix is to get rid of pets all together, for the moment, since ZOS is unable to release something without breaking multiple functionalities, sorcs and wardens should not play pets. It's magic, a simple solution until zos delete the pets.
Just imagine how lagodiil would perform if there were no pets ? It would be Cirodiil again.
The EU server could increase its lifespan to like 2 months, who knows.
Remember how everyone was certain that adding AOE caps would solve the lag?
And then everyone was equally certain, that removing AOE caps would solve lag?
Sure, pet fixes are scheduled for next year, but it's not the silver bullet you want it to be.0 -
GreenmantleySoul ShrivenThe only thing we all should do is remove our non combat pets. That would definitely improve server performance!0 -
Mariusghost84✭✭✭✭✭Yes you're right players can resolve the issue:
As we all know sorcs are by far the majority (noob friendly class, auto kill button) and warden has probably now surpassed DKs and close in number to Templars.
These two classes, sorcs and wardens have pets.
Especially sorcs, the server has to do 2 or 3 times the work it usually does for a non pet class. It has to handle the pets, their cd, dots or whatever, so the fix is to get rid of pets all together, for the moment, since ZOS is unable to release something without breaking multiple functionalities, sorcs and wardens should not play pets. It's magic, a simple solution until zos delete the pets.
Just imagine how lagodiil would perform if there were no pets ? It would be Cirodiil again.
The EU server could increase its lifespan to like 2 months, who knows.
Your attitude towards this is beyond amazingly stupid. Have you ever considered ZOS upgrading their server hardware/software so that pets arnt a problem - a possibility? the techonology and the hardware IS out there its all a matter of how much they want to invest in fixing the issue.
Were you REALLY for real with your post or did i just fall for you trolling?0 -
ChunkyCat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Let’s all find one spot on Cyrodil and hang out there. Just pile on top of one another spamming all our shiny light skills. The more people sticking with us there, the sooner the performance will improve.0 -
nafensoriel✭✭✭✭✭Mariusghost84 wrote: »Darkenarlol wrote: »or they can just shut down the servers due lack of profit
some people doesn't find this a problem and will easily jump to next FOTM game
some people loves ESO and invested a lot of time and money into the game
you can do whatever you want but please stop this "we all should..." agitation and propaganda
have a nice day
You are crazy if you think they would shut down the servers due to this. The leadership would set fixing the preformance issues as a primary goal if enough people left due to this.
I am 100% sure this would work. I am also almost 100% sure its not possible to mobilize enough ppl to make a difference. Propaganda lol. You make it sound like im scheaming some grand masterplan. Im simply sharing thoughts in a thread thats read by 44 people.
No, it wouldn't work because even if the entire forums reacted as a single entity they are in effect an echo chamber and do not reflect the realities of the actual server.
This is not unique to ESO. Every single MMO is supposedly dying and the devs supposedly don't care according to their Reddit/forums.
The reality is a very small portion of gaming communities have very loud voices and for some strange reason continue to assume they represent a majority when all evidence suggests otherwise.
The actual reality is ZOS is making money. Even the EUPC players as a majority seem to find the server issues an annoyance at best and continue to spend money and play regularly. Pretty much 90% of what you read on these forums is straight-up incorrect for the majority of the actual players of the game.
/edit I also should mention that regardless of what you watch on youtube all server issues cannot be fixed by simply upgrading the hardware. Hardware is actually only about half the equation when it comes to server performance...Edited by nafensoriel on November 7, 2019 2:14PM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭They will just stop doing new content and will decrease server resources to bare minimum so game will run just nominally.0 -
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