Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
Victor_Blade wrote: »Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
But sorcerers should use swords and stuff. They should use magic and die fast to stamina warriors.
Instead sorcerers can take damage from 5 people at once. Thus why I got shield breaker and now sorcerers don't even use shield what.
Victor_Blade wrote: »
ever hear of a battlemage?
Victor_Blade wrote: »Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
But sorcerers should use swords and stuff. They should use magic and die fast to stamina warriors.
Instead sorcerers can take damage from 5 people at once. Thus why I got shield breaker and now sorcerers don't even use shield what.
@Victor_Blade Please don't confuse the class with the player you encountered.
Sorcerers as a class can't just take on 5 players... the class is not the OP beast it once was in PvP at all, its the player who makes ANY class seem strong or weak. And they certainly shouldn't automatically 'die fast to stamina warriors'.
Its all about the player and the build.
Stam sorcs won't use shields, and not even all magicka sorcs use shields. And tbh shields have now had SO many nerfs that they themselves are really not an issue. Of course its possible to make a build to make them very strong, but that build would have weaknesses elsewhere.
Its also worth knowing that however you setup your charachter in PvP you will come across builds that counter you... setups that have strengths that make the most of your weaknesses and will seem overly strong, but maybe to other people on different builds willl seem weak. Learn to pick your fights.
Mag Templar is one of the strongest classes in the game rn, equally skilled a magplar should destroy a stam sorc. You’re just losing to better players. Don’t run shield breaker. Just get a damage and sustain set and go to town. I use war maiden and bright throat with spring loaded infusion food.
Victor_Blade wrote: »Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
But sorcerers shouldn't use swords and stuff. They should use magic and die fast to stamina warriors.
Instead sorcerers can take damage from 5 people at once. Thus why I got shield breaker and now sorcerers don't even use shield what.
Sorcerer
Besting the most well-equipped fighters, they rely on the spells of the mystic arts. Unique to these mages is the bodily stamina to be armed with the thickest armor.
deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »Stam sorc is really strong in the right hands and like many have said, they don’t use shields. Not sure how happy they will be with fizzy swings losing the knockdown but I think they will still be good. Gotta pressure them and line up burst combos.
Magsorc isn’t as good as it used to be but people certainly make them work. There are some trolly builds out there that are super “tanky “ as hell. Fought a couple today where I just couldn’t kill them but they couldn’t kill me. Eventually just went our separate ways. I’d line up my combo and get them to execute range but every time before I could finish them they would healing ward and shield back up and get back to full health. Mind you, my build uses spriggans so I lose a lot of damage against them when they are shielded. Switching to new moon instead of spriggans next patch if the set stays the way it is now on PTS. For many though it’s a war of attrition. Not all magsorcs can keep shields up like the ones I fought today. Eventually you wear them down and can kill them.
InvictusApollo wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
But sorcerers shouldn't use swords and stuff. They should use magic and die fast to stamina warriors.
Instead sorcerers can take damage from 5 people at once. Thus why I got shield breaker and now sorcerers don't even use shield what.
It is obvious that you are either trolling or are very, very, very new to this game. How could you be oblivious to the fact that each class has both stamina and magicka version, is beyond me.
Just because you started using a new set doesn't mean that you will crush everything in PvP.
OG_Kaveman wrote: »@Victor_Blade new to elder scrolls? Magic and blades are intertwined. Take the flavor text for sorcerers from Oblivion-Sorcerer
Besting the most well-equipped fighters, they rely on the spells of the mystic arts. Unique to these mages is the bodily stamina to be armed with the thickest armor.
I mean, does this look like what you think of when you think a sorc?
But that is the sorc class in elder scrolls 4. Now this game, elder scrolls online, takes that a step further, any class can be viable in any role, meaning you can build each class to be on of the 4 main roles in the game, tank, healer, Stam DPS and mag DPS. You need to widen your thoughts on what a class can be.
Victor_Blade wrote: »InvictusApollo wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
But sorcerers shouldn't use swords and stuff. They should use magic and die fast to stamina warriors.
Instead sorcerers can take damage from 5 people at once. Thus why I got shield breaker and now sorcerers don't even use shield what.
It is obvious that you are either trolling or are very, very, very new to this game. How could you be oblivious to the fact that each class has both stamina and magicka version, is beyond me.
Just because you started using a new set doesn't mean that you will crush everything in PvP.
I have only seen good sorcerers with staff and lightning magic. The sword welding sorcerer is just not good. Go and duel Emma overload and you'll understand how good sorcerers are. Not sword wielding ones
InvictusApollo wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »InvictusApollo wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
But sorcerers shouldn't use swords and stuff. They should use magic and die fast to stamina warriors.
Instead sorcerers can take damage from 5 people at once. Thus why I got shield breaker and now sorcerers don't even use shield what.
It is obvious that you are either trolling or are very, very, very new to this game. How could you be oblivious to the fact that each class has both stamina and magicka version, is beyond me.
Just because you started using a new set doesn't mean that you will crush everything in PvP.
I have only seen good sorcerers with staff and lightning magic. The sword welding sorcerer is just not good. Go and duel Emma overload and you'll understand how good sorcerers are. Not sword wielding ones
Your problem is that when you look at someone, all you see is class. You are blind to the most important thing - the skill. A class is nothing more than a weapon. And a skilled warrior can kill a peasant with a fork, even if said peasant gets a full plate armor and the best greatsword.
Your other problem is that you allow yourself to be bound, constricted by your own presuppositions.
It all boils down to one statement: learn to play and stop whining that other people are smart enough to use any weapon they have in their repertoire to get an advantage over you. Just accept it and with time you will be doing much, much better.
Victor_Blade wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »@Victor_Blade new to elder scrolls? Magic and blades are intertwined. Take the flavor text for sorcerers from Oblivion-Sorcerer
Besting the most well-equipped fighters, they rely on the spells of the mystic arts. Unique to these mages is the bodily stamina to be armed with the thickest armor.
I mean, does this look like what you think of when you think a sorc?
But that is the sorc class in elder scrolls 4. Now this game, elder scrolls online, takes that a step further, any class can be viable in any role, meaning you can build each class to be on of the 4 main roles in the game, tank, healer, Stam DPS and mag DPS. You need to widen your thoughts on what a class can be.
That's not a sorcerer. That's a foot soldier. Battle mates are like templar/paladins. Sorcerers are sorcerers and they don't use swords unless theyre some op main character from an isekai anime.
Victor_Blade wrote: »InvictusApollo wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »Stam sorcs don't use shields (generally).
Some mag sorcs don't use them either now, because of the nerfs to shields and the availability of a good magicka HoT now.
Mag sorcs are still a strong class in competent hands, but they aren't the pvp gods they used to be. Stam sorcs have never been top of the heap but have their strengths. You don't say what class you are fighting them on, but you'd probably benefit from watching some you tube videos to get a sense of the usual sorcerer damage combos and weaknesses.
Shieldbreaker is a very strong damage set, and the extra damage buff also kicks in versus mini shields like Reinforced from CP and the psijic passive shield.
But sorcerers shouldn't use swords and stuff. They should use magic and die fast to stamina warriors.
Instead sorcerers can take damage from 5 people at once. Thus why I got shield breaker and now sorcerers don't even use shield what.
It is obvious that you are either trolling or are very, very, very new to this game. How could you be oblivious to the fact that each class has both stamina and magicka version, is beyond me.
Just because you started using a new set doesn't mean that you will crush everything in PvP.
I have only seen good sorcerers with staff and lightning magic. The sword welding sorcerer is just not good. Go and duel Emma overload and you'll understand how good sorcerers are. Not sword wielding ones
Victor_Blade wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »@Victor_Blade new to elder scrolls? Magic and blades are intertwined. Take the flavor text for sorcerers from Oblivion-Sorcerer
Besting the most well-equipped fighters, they rely on the spells of the mystic arts. Unique to these mages is the bodily stamina to be armed with the thickest armor.
I mean, does this look like what you think of when you think a sorc?
But that is the sorc class in elder scrolls 4. Now this game, elder scrolls online, takes that a step further, any class can be viable in any role, meaning you can build each class to be on of the 4 main roles in the game, tank, healer, Stam DPS and mag DPS. You need to widen your thoughts on what a class can be.
That's not a sorcerer. That's a foot soldier. Battle mates are like templar/paladins. Sorcerers are sorcerers and they don't use swords unless theyre some op main character from an isekai anime.
universal_wrath wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »@Victor_Blade new to elder scrolls? Magic and blades are intertwined. Take the flavor text for sorcerers from Oblivion-Sorcerer
Besting the most well-equipped fighters, they rely on the spells of the mystic arts. Unique to these mages is the bodily stamina to be armed with the thickest armor.
I mean, does this look like what you think of when you think a sorc?
But that is the sorc class in elder scrolls 4. Now this game, elder scrolls online, takes that a step further, any class can be viable in any role, meaning you can build each class to be on of the 4 main roles in the game, tank, healer, Stam DPS and mag DPS. You need to widen your thoughts on what a class can be.
That's not a sorcerer. That's a foot soldier. Battle mates are like templar/paladins. Sorcerers are sorcerers and they don't use swords unless theyre some op main character from an isekai anime.
Ainz all gawn greatest sorcerer is hybrid as je uses both sword and stuff, though it is clearly obvious that he is stronger when he uses his staff. Learn from our supreme ruler.
universal_wrath wrote: »Victor_Blade wrote: »OG_Kaveman wrote: »@Victor_Blade new to elder scrolls? Magic and blades are intertwined. Take the flavor text for sorcerers from Oblivion-Sorcerer
Besting the most well-equipped fighters, they rely on the spells of the mystic arts. Unique to these mages is the bodily stamina to be armed with the thickest armor.
I mean, does this look like what you think of when you think a sorc?
But that is the sorc class in elder scrolls 4. Now this game, elder scrolls online, takes that a step further, any class can be viable in any role, meaning you can build each class to be on of the 4 main roles in the game, tank, healer, Stam DPS and mag DPS. You need to widen your thoughts on what a class can be.
That's not a sorcerer. That's a foot soldier. Battle mates are like templar/paladins. Sorcerers are sorcerers and they don't use swords unless theyre some op main character from an isekai anime.
Ainz all gawn greatest sorcerer is hybrid as je uses both sword and stuff, though it is clearly obvious that he is stronger when he uses his staff. Learn from our supreme ruler.
Ainz Ooal Gown*