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Necro is still OP in PvP

thatlaurachick
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Every day been killed by this same build on a different account:

Magicka Necro
with
Skeletal Mage
Chokethorn

So, healing pet, damage pet, plus damage from player.

Chokethron is active 100%, dude just waits to become bone goliath. Drops Bone Totem if you bring a group. I haven't seen him die yet.

So to all those saying Magicka Necro isn't viable, give me a build that counters this.
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  • TBois
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    Hard to say since we don't have very many of the particulars, but probably something with defile and cp inro befoul.
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  • Spartabunny08
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    If a group can't kill him, what size group we talking? Enough to have a DK and NB? Cause if he's blocking fossilize him and kill him. His ult lasts 20 secs, just kite him use range let your tank keep him cc'd should drop like nothing. NB fear him goes through block. If you really want to get serious a defile/cc tank with ranged damage entropy soultrap online bow gankers. I play a tank main that most no few players could think about killing. This patch they reworked the heavy armor ability that when used mitigates more damage per heavy piece of armor. This is pretty strong. Last patch a zerg would roast my tank, this patch nope. It takes them a while to do it now, sometimes minutes. Fossilize will be what you need most, you have him put in fossilize he will die might take a few times but it'll work. Also the fear from the totem, most every skill can stand outside its range and just hit them with like say jabs on templar. Hope this helps.
    Edited by Spartabunny08 on September 11, 2019 11:11PM
  • Krileon
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    Magicka Necromancer is easily the weakest class right now in PVP. No execute, no reliable burst (just kill blastbones in 1-2 hits or CC it), no reliable CC (just move/dodge out of the totem; no one runs grasp, but if they do it only hits 1 person per circle and is highly telegraphed), skull is easily blocked/dodged due to it being so telegraphed (shield ulta can reflect it as well), skeletal mage is healed through with a single cast of regen ticking on you. About all they got going is colossus (just CC them)/goliath (dodge out of) ultimates and intensive mender. Their purge isn't even worth using as it just kills you while everyone happily reapplies their dots. They've literally zero mobility. Your best option is to just keep CC on them and hammer away. If you don't have a source of major defile then enchant your weapon with disease so you'll have a source of major defile.
  • thatlaurachick
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    Well, lovely thoughts on magcro are so weak - because if you don't use any of those attacks and have an Argonian (so, diesease proof) not sure how you kill this one..
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  • Reverb
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    Necro is op in pve too. Necromancer NPCs compelling poor Nightblades to kill themselves.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/493157/my-character-killed-herself#latest
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  • FearlessOne_2014
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    Every day been killed by this same build on a different account:

    Magicka Necro
    with
    Skeletal Mage
    Chokethorn

    So, healing pet, damage pet, plus damage from player.

    Chokethron is active 100%, dude just waits to become bone goliath. Drops Bone Totem if you bring a group. I haven't seen him die yet.

    So to all those saying Magicka Necro isn't viable, give me a build that counters this.

    Stamina or Magicka Nightblade hardcounters this build.
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  • Lokey0024
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    The Ult is the only OP thing. The rest is just the build and play style. They made the class to be this way, alot of survivability and an expensive ult execute.
  • Diarf
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    Ehm... counter... hmmm...ehm... everything?
    Edited by Diarf on September 12, 2019 1:11AM
  • cmvet
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    hmmm, I haven't had issues in pvp with necros i guess.
  • Vapirko
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    OP? No. Annoying as ***? Yes.
  • Solariken
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    They don't seem OP to me with regard to offense... But gd they hard to take down. Necro healers are basically 12-man raid bosses in PvP.
  • Derra
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    Well, lovely thoughts on magcro are so weak - because if you don't use any of those attacks and have an Argonian (so, diesease proof) not sure how you kill this one..

    It doesn´t kill you though.

    If it does you´re doing sth wrong. Entirely.
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  • CeroSerotonin
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    Magicka Necromancer feels slow to me. I do think their bursts are a little bit more challenging to cast than a Magicka Warden. Blastbones does considerable damage, but everything else feels a bit slow in comparison to other classes.
  • method__01
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    mag necro is the weakest,slowest and costly class atm
    total garbage for pvp
    only use is healing but there are so many healers atm playing at Cyro plus is full of templars spamming BoL
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  • InvictusApollo
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    Every day been killed by this same build on a different account:

    Magicka Necro
    with
    Skeletal Mage
    Chokethorn

    So, healing pet, damage pet, plus damage from player.

    Chokethron is active 100%, dude just waits to become bone goliath. Drops Bone Totem if you bring a group. I haven't seen him die yet.

    So to all those saying Magicka Necro isn't viable, give me a build that counters this.

    Counters? Easy:
    > Petsorc: use pets to draw his pets fire and to prevent him from targeting you.
    > HA DK build: mine does 50k damage with the second HA it makes (noCP ofcourse).
    > My magplar: major and minor defile, spear to the face. Her heals are much better.
    > Stamblade: go invisible, wait for an opening and it won't matter that he gets heals.
    > Brawler build with resource drain potions.
    > Magsorc with Queen's Elegance and Energy Overload

    These are just from the top of my head at 2AM. There are many, many, many more.
  • Stellarvorous
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    Im having a hard time imaging anything necro stamn or mag being OP in PvP atm their aoes got nerfed with scalebreaker blastbones is still buggy as hell despite being released like that from elsweyr with quite a few patch "Fixes" and its still buggy.


    The only thing the class its self has going for it is the ults even then they are very expensive a few decent players might make it seem like their effective or even strong when a in a coordinated group but OP? No not even remotely


    If anything id say necromancer needed some buffs and some actual bug fixes but since zos's devs cant screw in a lightbulb much less release a patch that actually fixed necromancer bugs instead they release patches that introduce new bugs for everyone.

    That being said lets hope when dragonhold drops im hoping to see some changes some things for perks necros wardens dks stamn sorcs
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  • EmEm_Oh
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    Every day been killed by this same build on a different account:

    Magicka Necro
    with
    Skeletal Mage
    Chokethorn

    So, healing pet, damage pet, plus damage from player.

    Chokethron is active 100%, dude just waits to become bone goliath. Drops Bone Totem if you bring a group. I haven't seen him die yet.

    So to all those saying Magicka Necro isn't viable, give me a build that counters this.

    Sorc. Nightblade. 2 can take a necro down. A good Templar can, too.

    Possible you're running with an inexperienced group.
  • heng14rwb17_ESO
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    THE KEEP IS ABOUT TO FALL !
    SEND IN THE NECRO NOW !
  • Araxleon
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    Here is a tip coming from someone who has messed with magicka necro.

    Bone Tyrant is a big ol bluff, Yes we gain a damage aoe and a health boost but we also get a huge ego in the process. :D

    I've died many times cuz I'll focus on killing when I transform and not rebuff, many times the people I fight just run and dont attack me and that usually gets them killed unless they LOS like crazy.
    If you see someone transform, just fight them like normal and take advantage of them not rebuffing.
    Keeping range, moving while fighting hurts necro alot since the corpses cant move + they dissapear so fast.
    Edited by Araxleon on September 13, 2019 3:16PM

  • Odovacar
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    I still slap em around with my old school DK daily. You win some and you lose some but that's why PvP is so fun. Their ulti pummeling tho ….whoa, I roll dodge quicker than hell when I see that beast form up...even after the changes.
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  • ChefZero
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    Araxleon wrote: »
    Here is a tip coming from someone who has messed with magicka necro.

    Bone Tyrant is a big ol bluff, Yes we gain a damage aoe and a health boost but we also get a huge ego in the process. :D

    I've died many times cuz I'll focus on killing when I transform and not rebuff, many times the people I fight just run and dont attack me and that usually gets them killed unless they LOS like crazy.
    If you see someone transform, just fight them like normal and take advantage of them not rebuffing.
    Keeping range, moving while fighting hurts necro alot since the corpses cant move + they dissapear so fast.

    I used the same morph on stam and magcro and never died in transformation. No joke.
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  • Araxleon
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    ChefZero wrote: »
    Araxleon wrote: »
    Here is a tip coming from someone who has messed with magicka necro.

    Bone Tyrant is a big ol bluff, Yes we gain a damage aoe and a health boost but we also get a huge ego in the process. :D

    I've died many times cuz I'll focus on killing when I transform and not rebuff, many times the people I fight just run and dont attack me and that usually gets them killed unless they LOS like crazy.
    If you see someone transform, just fight them like normal and take advantage of them not rebuffing.
    Keeping range, moving while fighting hurts necro alot since the corpses cant move + they dissapear so fast.

    I used the same morph on stam and magcro and never died in transformation. No joke.

    Not many people challenge it outta fear, I mean it does look badass lol.
    But when challenged it's actually easier to handle instead of running.

    Overall I still enjoy it for 1vX because of the health boost / heal.
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  • Royalthought
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    Speaking of looks, the pummeling ult was originally supposed to be a necro dragon.....

    Could be the exact same damage and effect but the dragon wouldve made 100x better.

    Alot of times I don't even see the colossus and I'm the one casting it.
  • Insco851
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    Stamcro can straight bomb people if they ain’t careful or quick with the thumbs. 1v1 traditional setups are less effective however than some of their counterparts. I enjoy group comp builds tho so this is pretty much perfect. Stamcro doesn’t have issues with bar space imo.

    I hit some kids for 14k crits yesterday with my colossus... they were high 500’s. But I still get good 10-11k crits on 810’s as well.

    MagCro can basically do the same as stamcro but it’s a harder lineup with the graveyard and synergy being the primary burst for the build. If someone gets real thirsty and tries bursting me while I’m dropping my ulti+graveyard... they typically end up disappointed. Magcro ends up with bar space issues.
    Edited by Insco851 on September 13, 2019 10:53PM
  • Ozazz
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    i'm just going to say you should probably l2p before crying on forums!
    here's a video of what is really happening, & why people deserve no opinion when it comes to pvp.
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/maarten627/video/79128383
  • Ozazz
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    so in other words when you can't kill someone 2v10 it's their fault, lol smh! give me a break! here's another one!
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/maarten627/video/79066323
    he's a buddy and a great guy, He has been playing since beta and is one of the few best players left in game.

    With that being said,
    This is a prime example and reading this topic validates what I've been saying for years!
  • Lokey0024
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    so in other words when you can't kill someone 2v10 it's their fault, lol smh! give me a break! here's another one!
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/maarten627/video/79066323
    he's a buddy and a great guy, He has been playing since beta and is one of the few best players left in game.

    With that being said,
    This is a prime example and reading this topic validates what I've been saying for years!

    😂 that vid is the perfect example of OP AF lol. Well played.
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