Anybody has any clues why ZOS nerfing everything?

Ozazz · September 2019

because they're social justice warriors and only serve the casuals

Juhasow · September 2019

Jagdkommando wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Well at the end of the day strenght of both PvP and PvE setups is increasing so it's hard to call it nerfs. The only thing that is getting nerfed is uniqueness and feel of flavor of certain setups but the general strenght of the setups on average is not getting nerfed.

I dont give a poop about dps increase but i give it when it is harder to pull same numbers or dps is just nerfed(which we ha e now) , the main thing is flavour as u said. ALSO trial dummy is not a dps test!!! Dont say that pls, its like noob machine, standing in 1 spot and doing dps with all available buffs in the game. Real dps is 3 mil mid buffed dps, cuz in raids you do mechanics and have only 20 seconds at max to do your dps. So overall damage per seat is +-3mil. Same or worse thing is at dungeons....!
Pfff dps going high, gove me Morrowind patch with trial dummy and picture will be the same or better(full enchantments on each weapon etc...)

Actually pulling numbers is getting easier with each patch including this one. Morrowind DPS is behind to what we're getting right now. We got more CP , new better sets and abilities plus simplified yet more effective rotations during that over 2 years gap. Any parse from Morrowind You can find on 3M dummy will be way higher now. Like 20% higher atleast. I think Your real issue is that You refuse to adapt to new state of the game and because of that Your DPS dropped down but that doesnt measn DPS in general dropped down.

jcm2606 · September 2019

mocap wrote: »

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

When people are doing 100k dps.They are not doing this on 3 or 6 million dummy.They are using the iron atro dummy ,which is fully debuffed.

Almost raid buffed parses was before trial dummy too. I can't remember any of them doin 100k.
Also typical 3kk selfbuffed dps parse those days was around 40-45k.

The iron atro gives 100% uptime on things that wouldn't even have a 10th of that in an actual fight, so you're seeing DPS at its theoretical maximum, it isn't indicative of your performance in an actual fight.

DPS has also gone up over the years, though, so that plays a big part in why people are self-parsing above 100k.

ccfeeling · September 2019

The main reason ZOS made everything slow .

Players have to spend more time to reach END GAME .
Players may buy more ESO plus .
Players may buy more items in crown store .

Game balance ? No
Marketing strategy ? Yes

mocap · September 2019

jcm2606 wrote: »

DPS has also gone up over the years, though, so that plays a big part in why people are self-parsing above 100k.

thats what im talking about. Everyone and their grandma talk about nerfs here and there, yet selfbuffed 3kk parse has been raised from 40-45k to 60-65k for the last ~2 years.

hakan · September 2019

all of the answers are untrue. you guys just say whatever suits you.

obviously zos listens problems from forums. then make a dart game. where there is dart, itll get nerfed. simple.

Cathexis · September 2019

I bet you can plot a graph of the extremeness of changes from patch to patch as a working representation of how much we deserve nice things.

Jagdkommando · September 2019

Destruent wrote: »

Jagdkommando wrote: »

Juhasow wrote: »

Well at the end of the day strenght of both PvP and PvE setups is increasing so it's hard to call it nerfs. The only thing that is getting nerfed is uniqueness and feel of flavor of certain setups but the general strenght of the setups on average is not getting nerfed.

I dont give a poop about dps increase but i give it when it is harder to pull same numbers or dps is just nerfed(which we ha e now) , the main thing is flavour as u said. ALSO trial dummy is not a dps test!!! Dont say that pls, its like noob machine, standing in 1 spot and doing dps with all available buffs in the game. Real dps is 3 mil mid buffed dps, cuz in raids you do mechanics and have only 20 seconds at max to do your dps. So overall damage per seat is +-3mil. Same or worse thing is at dungeons....!
Pfff dps going high, gove me Morrowind patch with trial dummy and picture will be the same or better(full enchantments on each weapon etc...)

Can't remember a single patch where overall DPS dropped. Just watch videos of top-raiding guilds and you'll see the ongoing DPS-increase.

You kidding me right?........
Top raid guild like Hodor are 0.0000000001% of all players and those changes hit 99.999999% of players. Now you understand what i meant????

master_vanargand · September 2019

Because ZOS likes to see people's tears.

DreadDaedroth · September 2019

No idea but as DK tank main they made everything slower due PvP reasons ( one hand and shield damage and bash nerfed), no more wings, choking talons with delay, nerfed enchants....

Masel · September 2019

MehrunesFlagon wrote: »

mocap wrote: »

top dps was raised from 60k to 100k for the past two years. Kinda strange "nerfs", don't you think?

Though they may nerf something, but then they release $ DLC with new sets to overcompensate those losses.

When people are doing 100k dps.They are not doing this on 3 or 6 million dummy.They are using the iron atro dummy ,which is fully debuffed.

Dps went up a mile regardless over the last year and more. The problem rather is that much of the power comes from class-independent sources rather than class identity. I hope that the next couple updates will shift things back in the other direction.