GrumpyDuckling wrote: »From back in January:
"Reps specifically asked about the community’s concern that bosmers are trading stealth for different buffs. We were told that ZOS saw these concerns and would work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
The racial removal of Bosmer stealth was a big turnoff for me. Has there been anything added yet that supports ZOS' intent to create more options/systems for stealth gameplay? All I've seen so far was the Darloc Brae set, which costs a 5 piece set and still doesn't allow Bosmer to regain the full power of their previous stealth ability.
GrumpyDuckling wrote: »From back in January:
"Reps specifically asked about the community’s concern that bosmers are trading stealth for different buffs. We were told that ZOS saw these concerns and would work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
The racial removal of Bosmer stealth was a big turnoff for me. Has there been anything added yet that supports ZOS' intent to create more options/systems for stealth gameplay? All I've seen so far was the Darloc Brae set, which costs a 5 piece set and still doesn't allow Bosmer to regain the full power of their previous stealth ability.
I use Darloc's + Night Terror + Night's Silence on my non-NB characters. It's pretty crazy, even on a non-Khajit you can run right past an enemy within an arm's length and not get detected (not from the front though; the frontal detection range with this setup is 2 meters IIRC)Night Terror form Stormhaven is a nice set for sneaky hamsters too. I never tried to combine them
GrumpyDuckling wrote: »From back in January:
"Reps specifically asked about the community’s concern that bosmers are trading stealth for different buffs. We were told that ZOS saw these concerns and would work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
The racial removal of Bosmer stealth was a big turnoff for me. Has there been anything added yet that supports ZOS' intent to create more options/systems for stealth gameplay? All I've seen so far was the Darloc Brae set, which costs a 5 piece set and still doesn't allow Bosmer to regain the full power of their previous stealth ability.
Khajiit are at max, they can get as close as they want. Thats why it wouldnt hurt if Zenimax just raises the passive skill on medium from 5 to 8% or whatever is needed. Khajiit then has the advantage to be able to wear only 5 medium while others need 7 medium. Testet with Khajiit vs. Nord vs. Bosmer. Any race is on par with Khajiit with 7 medium plus a set with +2 meters.
I think the best set is Night Mother's Embrace. Rather easy to get in Deeshan or from Guild Trader. It would be good if there was a craftable set with reduced radius and cost. Maybe in a future DLC. It should be a set that reduces sneak and falling damage. Peace to Bosmer and Khajiit. Something like:
Rags of the Goblin:
(2) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(4) Adds 1206 Max Health
(5) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 15%
(5) Reduce falling damage by 8%
For completeness the real available sets:
Night Mother's Embrace.
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(4 items) Adds 129 Stamina Recovery
(5 items) Adds 129 Weapon Damage
(5 items) Reduce the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak by 25%
Night Terror form Stormhaven is a nice set for sneaky hamsters too. I never tried to combine them
(2 items) Adds 1096 Max Stamina
(3 items) Reduces the radius you can be detected while Sneaking by 2 meters. Reduces the cost of Sneak cost by 27%.
(4 items) Adds 1206 Max Health
(5 items) When you take melee damage, you deal 2000 Poison Damage to the attacker. This effect can occur once every 1 second.
Dalsinthus wrote: »I seriously doubt that any new system for stealth is coming and if it does, it won't make Bosmer better than any other race at stealth. The promise of new systems someday later felt pretty hollow at the time and has not been mentioned since. I hate the change to Bosmer from both a lore and gameplay perspective - it seriously soured me on ZOS and the game in general - but I doubt they will ever revert this.
No please don’t remind them there are so few stealthy bowblades in cyro at the minute it’s almost playable minus the dots and the lag
GrumpyDuckling wrote: »From back in January:
"Reps specifically asked about the community’s concern that bosmers are trading stealth for different buffs. We were told that ZOS saw these concerns and would work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race."
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/456997/class-reps-update-meeting-notes-jan-30-2019/p1
[...] All I've seen so far was the Darloc Brae set, which costs a 5 piece set and still doesn't allow Bosmer to regain the full power of their previous stealth ability.
Deathlord92 wrote: »I look forward to this for my Breton assassin 😎
Cundu_Ertur wrote: »Still nothing? I'm guessing still no answer to this. This must be the improved communication that we've been hearing about. They've improved their ability to ignore us.
You may be right but that's a weak sauce solution to this problem that they created.ketsparrowhawk wrote: »They already did it. It's call Vesture of Darloc Brae. Pretty sure that's all they meant when they said they would "work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race."
ketsparrowhawk wrote: »They already did it. It's call Vesture of Darloc Brae. Pretty sure that's all they meant when they said they would "work on creating more options/systems for stealth gameplay outside of race."
People in this community think that Cloak is OP so any hope of stealth being buffed died long ago when all the decent players moved on to other games and got replaced by people who cry for nerfs any time they get killed.
SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »In an ideal world:
Sneak radius reduction:
Bosmer, Khajiit, Argonian, and Dunmer
Detection radius increase:
Bosmer and Khajiit
That would fix Bosmer and enhance Shadowscale and Morag Tong characters with very little real combat significance.
Cundu_Ertur wrote: »*You know, the same bonus as is granted from the over-priced and terribly expensive Way of Air and Senty sets that everyone is clamoring to get their hands on.
deepseamk20b14_ESO wrote: »I’ve been a bosmer on my main since beta. Stealth was never an issue. Even with justice system introduced and the more recent change to bosmer passive, it’s no different. No one sees me unless I’m paying zero attention to what I’m doing. The amount is so small of a bonus it really doesn’t matter. Any race can be sneaky anyways. Or roll NB hahaha.
Out of all the issues in this game this is one of the smallest as it doesn’t break the game like the bugs we are faced with at the moment.
Honestly, if they gave bosmer stealth bonus back, knowing ZoS, they would try and “balance” and remove something else and I like the bosmer passives as they are. We would just end up with a multitude of people on the forums making just as many posts wanting them to revert to how it is currently lol.