Wasteful/Stupid spending?

SatansPegasus
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Ok 1st of all this is in part a follow up to my question on crown crates but i'm just curious about what you consider wasteful or stupid spending in general be it buying take away even though you have the same thing you bought in the cupboard or buying a fidget spinner just to throw at the wall or as is most common of late buying a product just so you can burn that product in protest. Which i find stupid. Alternatively maybe you are someone who will or maybe has spent 100s on a small 3 inch toy or collector's item.

Also has any of this spending ruined relationships be family, friend or partner?
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    I guess that's highly subjective and depends on everyone's priority and sources of enjoyment in life.

    I find spending money on clothes (for the sake of being "fashionable") or cars (as long as it's not yet broken or dangerous) stupid... I'm also puzzled at people buying crown crates, or selling crowns in ESO...
    I consider people paying for software doing something that they could very easily do in Excel also pretty stupid.
    Or pre-ordering a game... which equals to lending cash to a company for free.

    As to ruining relationships... for small matters I can just ignore it (after all I have my own stupid habits myself); but for important things it's different. I certainly couldn't live with someone who spends money on cars, for instance. But this is such a splitting topic that the question wouldn't even occur in the first place. I woudln't even date someone who's into cars.

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on September 4, 2019 12:17PM
  • beadabow
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    Hmmmm, subjective is certainly the operative word here. If there is a reason behind the purchase the buyer feels strongly about, then it certainly would not be considered "stupid" by the person spending the money, though they may experience "buyer's remorse," after making the purchase. And wasteful spending is usually a result of failing to "shop around" enough to find the lowest price for the same item.
  • Chufu
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    In my eye it's fine if someone is spending their own - hard earned money - on things that make him/her happy. For example for hobbies or just consumption. Food is a good example of happiness (especially chocolate, mjam mjam).

    It's just a waste of money if you buy crates/loot boxes in my eyes. There are so many shiny items that make you wanting it, but no matter how much money you would spend, there is a good chance that you could blow 2.000 €/$/etc. away for nothing, because the dropchance of the items you want are maybe so utopic (0,01% or less for apex mounts for example) that it's just wasted. It's like a lottery, you feel you can win 126 millions and in the end you are just paying for the tickets that'll never win. In my eyes this is gambling and there should be a better way to get crate-items/loot boxes (e.g. with crown gems), because then you would have a realistic chance to get it at some point (even if that means to spend an amount of X, but at least you know with X gems you could buy it).
  • VaranisArano
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    In a nutshell:

    1. If I want to spend the money on something = not stupid spending.

    2. If someone else spends (more) money on something I wouldn't = stupid spending.

    (Except I try to be a little self-aware than that and remember that as per #1, no one thinks their own spending is stupid, and surely they are in a better position to judge that than I am.)

    So I don't spend a cent or gold piece on Crown Crates, but I choose to assume that the people who buy them feel like they have a good reason to do so.
  • SatansPegasus
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    Subjective was kinda what i was going for since we all have different likes and dislikes such as i find buying clothes period to be a waste of money when i only wear a few items if any. Holidays i find stupid especially when the person going on holiday complains about not having money to pay bills or feed the kids but they can afford to go to cyprus 5 times a year an as mentioned buying s new car or just a flashy car even though the banger you have under a tarp still gets you from a-b without any issues.

    Another area although i've been guilty of it is buying every single iteration of a game for every platform it's on and i have regretted it and for me it was destiny 2 i 1st got it on ps4 to play with my brother but then my friends i played destiny with nagged and nagged me to get it on xbox one so i did and to cut a long whiny story short i fracking despise that game and everything it stands for and it ruined friendships online even to this day i won't talk to half the people who stabbed me in the back. Playing with them reminded me of my old WoW clan and how dungeon raiding used to end badly.

    Collectibles or that is figures or statues whatever you wanna call them but people who buy a game just because it comes with a figure even though they won't play the game. I've known people who would buy the funko pop figures even for games and films they don't like just because they had an addiction to the damn things it was weird i can understand buying them for things you love but for things you hate is just beyond stupid it's insane.

    I do also wanna apologise for the numerous grammar and punctuation problems that exist in all that drivel i just typed.
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Chufu wrote: »
    It's like a lottery, you feel you can win 126 millions and in the end you are just paying for the tickets that'll never win.

    Well, to be honest, I don't think that buying a lottery ticket is THAT stupid. The amounts at stake are quite huge (at least on national or EU level lotteries such as Euromillions). I buy a ticket myself every now and then and consider it like "buying dream time". I thoroughly and delightfully dream about everything I'll do with the money once I've won it. That's better than any movie. Of course I throw way the ticket a couple of days later because I didn't win, but the dream was there and it was worth it.
    (For those who'd be tempted to follow this strategy, be aware that it only works if you buy a ticket every now and then. If you do it all the time, your wallet suffers severely and the dream fades away).

    But crown crates ? An APX mount is not a dream ! :-)

  • Chufu
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    Chufu wrote: »
    It's like a lottery, you feel you can win 126 millions and in the end you are just paying for the tickets that'll never win.

    Well, to be honest, I don't think that buying a lottery ticket is THAT stupid. The amounts at stake are quite huge (at least on national or EU level lotteries such as Euromillions). I buy a ticket myself every now and then and consider it like "buying dream time". I thoroughly and delightfully dream about everything I'll do with the money once I've won it. That's better than any movie. Of course I throw way the ticket a couple of days later because I didn't win, but the dream was there and it was worth it.
    (For those who'd be tempted to follow this strategy, be aware that it only works if you buy a ticket every now and then. If you do it all the time, your wallet suffers severely and the dream fades away).

    But crown crates ? An APX mount is not a dream ! :-)

    True, you're right, if it's just every there and then... okay! But do it all the time... well the money is just *puff* away!

    P.s: Although the horselizard from Xanmeer-crates was a dream <3 But I didn't spend any money for it, because the chances are just too low to get it.
  • Kagukan
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    Wasteful and stupid to one may not be wasteful and stupid to another. Perspective.
  • Hippie4927
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    Anytime I buy anything for my cat other than food and litter, I am being stupid and wasteful. I have bought him so many toys, beds, cubbyholes to hide in, and all he cares about is brown packing paper and cardboard boxes. :p

    On a more serious note........most things that humans buy are wasteful. Anything beyond what we need is wasteful.
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Hippie4927 wrote: »
    Anytime I buy anything for my cat other than food and litter, I am being stupid and wasteful. I have bought him so many toys, beds, cubbyholes to hide in, and all he cares about is brown packing paper and cardboard boxes. :p

    On a more serious note........most things that humans buy are wasteful. Anything beyond what we need is wasteful.

    Ha ha ha, sooooo true about the cat ! :-)
    But buying useless fluff for my cat makes feel better after buying useless fluff for myself :-)

    On a more serious note : yes, everything beyond what we need is wasteful, but "needs" vary so much for one person to the next...

  • Aurie
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    Nothing is stupid spending to the player doing the buying. It's simply what an individual wants to spend his own gold/crowns on. That is his choice and nobody else's.

    Anybody else may think what they like but do not have the right to pass judgement, although they can express an opinion.
  • jainiadral
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    IMHO, it's only wasteful if you don't use your purchase.

    For some reason, though, gaming purchases I don't use or play cause me a lot more regret. I can buy a book, hate it and put it aside after two chapters and not feel like I wasted money. But that 2 month buy one get one free month sub to SWTOR last year that I only played two weeks of still rankles.

    That one lockbox key I bought in SWL that got me a useless bummer of a weapon and two upgrade distillates instead of three two years ago still makes me irritated when I think about it. I can even remember the only mini-crate I got back in 2014 in SWTOR with my first month's CC stipend. It had pants for an incomplete armor set and a few other useless crappy things I ended uup destroying. Total waste, even though I didn't shell out any cash :D
  • reoskit
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    maybe you are someone who will or maybe has spent 100s on a small 3 inch toy

    o.0 *bites tongue*

    But seriously. You're an adult? Spend your money how you want.
  • TelvanniWizard
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    The stupid thing, imo, is having to gamble instead of buying the pixels.
  • Starlock
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    jainiadral wrote: »
    For some reason, though, gaming purchases I don't use or play cause me a lot more regret. I can buy a book, hate it and put it aside after two chapters and not feel like I wasted money.

    There's a couple possibilities here.

    One, tangible goods are perceived as having greater value. Two, one of the reasons for that is tangible goods can be gifted, traded, or exchanged. For the most part, such gifting, trading, or exchanging is prohibited for microtransactions in video games. It shouldn't be, but it is. There are plenty of things I've gotten I would like to give to other players, but I'm not allowed to do that even though it should be mine to own and therefore mine to give to someone else.

    With respect to the OP, it isn't questionable spending of others that is the focus of my concern for the video game industry. Questionable spending is a symptom of the root problem, and that's exploitative, predatory microtransactions that have become so normalized many don't even second guess them at all anymore. It is one thing to spend money unwisely without coercion. What the video game industry does is entirely something else.
  • StabbityDoom
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    if it fits within your discretionary entertainment spending, who cares?
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  • redlink1979
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    This is very subjective. You spend your money how you want.
    Some of us might also consider stupid the things you spend money on even if it seems money well spent to you...
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  • Nestor
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    I was in a Louis Vutton store yesterday. My Gf was shopping for something for her daughter. Spending $1500 on a wallet or$4500 on a purse with the designers logo plastered all over it just to be in essence a walking billboard is stupid.

    Spending a portion of your discretionary income on something that makes you happy is not.

    And no, even if I made a million a month, I would not buy some over priced over logo'd product.

    And, my GF decided that she would buy something else for her daughter. She scored some major points in doing so.
    Edited by Nestor on September 4, 2019 4:49PM
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    Pre broken spaghetti. Really you can't break your own noodles?
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