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How come I can't create a white imperial character?

  • Cladius30
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    Uryel wrote: »
    "You can't create white imperials" // "other folks have white imperials". Well... Either you CAN make white imperials, or those characters are not imperials.

    The only other options would be that they use a specific skin that bleaches them, which in general would be fairly easy to spot due to additionnal markings, or vampirism, which is even easier to spot.

    So, my question then is how can you be so absolutely sure that those supposedly white imperials you see are truly imperials, if you can't make them ?

    Well the facial features
  • Cladius30
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    "You can't create white imperials" // "other folks have white imperials". Well... Either you CAN make white imperials, or those characters are not imperials.

    The only other options would be that they use a specific skin that bleaches them, which in general would be fairly easy to spot due to additionnal markings, or vampirism, which is even easier to spot.

    So, my question then is how can you be so absolutely sure that those supposedly white imperials you see are truly imperials, if you can't make them ?

    Well the facial features

    The imperial names given to them aswell
  • YaYaPineapple
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    Are you not able to click on the different color skin tone squares on the body tab?
    (They are little squares of color that range from light to dark)
  • DocFrost72
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    Uryel wrote: »
    "You can't create white imperials" // "other folks have white imperials". Well... Either you CAN make white imperials, or those characters are not imperials.

    The only other options would be that they use a specific skin that bleaches them, which in general would be fairly easy to spot due to additionnal markings, or vampirism, which is even easier to spot.

    So, my question then is how can you be so absolutely sure that those supposedly white imperials you see are truly imperials, if you can't make them ?

    OP is discussing NPC imperials.

    OT: NPCs have a wider set of customization than any PC. There are outfit styles, colors, and hair styles they have that no one else can use but ZOS.

    As for "white", more than half the sliders (and the right facial structure) would pass for Caucasian. Remember also that Caucasians don't exist in the Elder Scrolls world, the closest thing you're going to see is the Bretons. "White" isn't a concept in this game like it is in the real world.

    So, yeah. If this a "why aren't imperials more light skinned" question, been answered; their lineage. If you want to know why you cannot use NPC settings, that's a very different topic.
    Edited by DocFrost72 on August 14, 2019 12:45PM
  • Gronk
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    They should all be what they are. As they come from the sewers they are missing a few things, Here I will list the Imperial deficiencies.

    1. Being that they are created from above ground water runoff and outhouse/privy/loo *** material it is expected that they when exposed to open air and sunlight to have a swarm of flesh-flies around them.

    2. Also why are they not covered In loo paper? Or at least have some stuck on a shoe?

    3. I know a vampire who can fix your imperials melanin issues. But she wont bite poo derivatives such as Imperials. She does fancy snacking on Nords! She will however send you to a complexion specialist who will bite sewer remnants.

    The imperial complexion shader has never changed. In fact no race shaders on complexion have changed since launch it is what it is.

    Now ask yourself this WHY NO CALICO KHAJIITS! Or maybe calico imperials. Seriously going vamp will fix your issues plenty light then.
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  • Uryel
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    The imperial names given to them aswell

    If we're talking about NPCs, yeah, allright. Player names, though, be like :

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  • BlueRaven
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    I am not seeing a problem here.
  • kinguardian
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    I noticed that in the creation screen the characters look different, then in the character load screen they sometimes are really ugly with darker skin and shadows in weird places. But then in game they are a lot lighter and their face is softer prettier. I think if you choose the lightest that ingame it will show.
  • Katahdin
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    Both of my imperials are pretty light skinned, though both have a decent tan befitting the warriors that spend alot of time outside that they are.
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  • Nemesis7884
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    they are based on real world italians / romans so...
  • pod88kk
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    BlueRaven wrote: »
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    I am not seeing a problem here.

    I think the OP wants albino white, or maybe see through
  • NotaDaedraWorshipper
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    Uhm, they can be "white" just fine. Imperials have quite the variety in skin tones. Everything from "white" to olives to dark tans.

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    If that's not white then just what do you consider white?
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  • Cladius30
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    In my creation screen the lightest color of skin is a dark tan. But I see NPCs with lighter skin and they are imperial.
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    I'm not sure what's not working for you OP. Imperial has white skin options in the creator. Heck, I was able to create a white Redguard.

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  • Rex-Umbra
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    Not white enough? Become a Vampire.
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  • J2JMC
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    Maybe it's their elven ancestry and that's why they are so lightly tanned? you can always put on the frost skin to lighten their skins tho'^^
    The ones with the elven ancestry are the -Bretons-!

    Imperials have nedic and a smidge of akaviri ancestry (from when the last akaviri humans fled Akavir back in what, the first era or so?)

    Anyhow...
    ...regardless of whatever the lore says about "typical" imperals (or any other race); there really -ought- to be an option for purchasing a wider selection of colors, both skin and hair.
    Why?
    Because lorewise... well, that IS how "halfbreed" characters would appear in ESO. With the racial traits (aka, passives) of theirt mother, but some -traces- (aka, appearance) of their father!

    I mean, how many black-haired altmer do we see in the game? But can you make one??? Exactly!

    So... an imperial character with some nord blood might be pale-skinned! An altmer character with some ayleid blood perhaps might be black-haired!

    And it would make a LOT of sense for ZOS to sell an unlock in the crown store to allow people the option of using cross-racial skin and hair and eye colors just in case they want to play as such!

    Heck, there are a great many other things I would want to see. Like... structural unlocks!
    Let us pay to play taller then possible "titanbborn" nords!
    Let us pay to play stouter then possible imperial matrons that make the best pasta!
    Let us pay to play shorter then possible breton dwarves who drink wine and know things!
    Let us pay to play more muscular then possibe orcs people wouldn't like if they got angry!
    Let us pay to play fatter then possible redguard haren guards who gave up -much- for their job!
    Let us pay to play tinier then possible petite dunmer assassins that can squeeze through any arrowslit!
    Let us pay to play skinnier then possible necromancers that look like they -really- need a sammich right now!

    See ZOS? There is so much you could -sell-! And there would also loads of appearacne change tokens sold with such, as people update their favorite characters...
    Look, ZOS, look! PROFIT! You know you want to... ;):lol:

    You know, for all the criticism I've given vampires who complain about their appearance, I'd quit the game if the ability to make my nord black was locked behind the crown store.
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  • Judas Helviaryn
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    Imperial Stamplar, he could definitely pass as "White" in this fantasy world of ours.

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  • _Medusa_
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    Cladius30 wrote: »
    In my creation screen the lightest color of skin is a dark tan. But I see NPCs with lighter skin and they are imperial.

    Could you post a screenshot?

    If the lightest color you see in character creation is much darker than what others have posted above, then it could be your game and/or monitor settings.

    Or, in case you are using a Race Change Token, that screen has different lighting, making the character's skins appear much darker.

  • Lord_Bidr
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    Go become a vampire, at level 4 you'll be as white as can be. Heck my dark elf is a vamp and it feels wrong to call him 'dark' elf.
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  • fierackas
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    Hmm, when does the Imperial White Hood and Burning Cross outfit get released?
  • Bekkael
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    I have a ghostly pale Imperial girl, complete with blonde hair. She is every bit as fair as my blonde Nord. Not sure why you can’t make the kind of Imperial you want, but maybe spend more time with presets? I just keep clicking until I get one I know I can modify to my preference. 🤷‍♀️
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  • Samadhi
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    Imperial at lightest skin shade:
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    Breton at lightest skin shade:
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    as someone who personally spends the summer hiding away from the sun, can kind of see your point;
    Imperial whiteness is sun-kissed, while Breton whiteness is crypt-dweller

    tho, for comparison, an Imperial from the "dark" skinned side of the spectrum:
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    arguably looks more East Indian or First Nations in terms of skin tone

    OP, best suggestion would be to turn up your monitor brightness, or maybe your games gamma settings
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  • Samadhi
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    I'm not sure what's not working for you OP. Imperial has white skin options in the creator. Heck, I was able to create a white Redguard.

    have legitimately come across a youtube video criticizing ESO's character maker
    because the only way to play a Black character is as a Redguard, which apparently pigeon-holes black players into stereotypical representations that they are dumb (lack of Magicka bonuses) but sporty (multiple Stamina bonuses)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc9O8mt9jJM

    not saying the video represents my own views, but it was an intersting take on skin tones and the lack of dark-skinned Bretons
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  • BooPerScOOper
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    Looks pretty damn white to me
  • TheShadowScout
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    You know, for all the criticism I've given vampires who complain about their appearance, I'd quit the game if the ability to make my nord black was locked behind the crown store.
    There is NO ability to make your nord black that could be "locked behind the crown store". Not unless you could skin options like ebony epidermis and such... :p

    But IF they were to ADD the ability to play as a nord halfbreed with redguard-ish skin tones... it would make sense they would want to see some profit for the extra coding, no? Same as with a great many other things, from various new hairstyles to the whole frigging imperial race. Therefore... that would be the only viable way.

    I would see no issues with it. No more then any other "cosmetic" option sold in the crown store...
  • Grandma
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    in a world like ESO why would you want to be white?



    jokes aside it could be the lighting in character creator. I remember it was particularly funky in summerset.
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  • worrallj
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    If by white you mean literally sheet white albino, they are probably vampires or something. If you mean just Caucasian skin tones, imperials have that. Not quite as pale as Nords but pretty close.
  • Rake
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    Imperials are darker than Nords, that is why
    You could ask why cant you create white drak elves as well.

    If you wanna be white just become vampire.
  • J2JMC
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    J2JMC wrote: »
    You know, for all the criticism I've given vampires who complain about their appearance, I'd quit the game if the ability to make my nord black was locked behind the crown store.
    There is NO ability to make your nord black that could be "locked behind the crown store". Not unless you could skin options like ebony epidermis and such... :p

    But IF they were to ADD the ability to play as a nord halfbreed with redguard-ish skin tones... it would make sense they would want to see some profit for the extra coding, no? Same as with a great many other things, from various new hairstyles to the whole frigging imperial race. Therefore... that would be the only viable way.

    I would see no issues with it. No more then any other "cosmetic" option sold in the crown store...

    Costumes and random hairstyles are not the same as the gender and race of my character. And for what it's worth, I do take issue with certain hairstyles that are otherwise ubiquitous in certain communities being sold as extra commodities. NBA games do it and I dislike it. Although, at least in those games, the cash shop currency can be earned in game.

    I think we're just gonna have to disagree on this one.
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  • WildRaptorX
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    So the slider has ‘two shade sliders if you will’.

    So on the skin type slider, keep tapping right. About halfway through the skin colour will get darker and darker until it goes back to white. However, this white is much paler than the whites at the beginning of the slider. Hope this helps
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