drkfrontiers wrote: »Here some things I find out the hard way: (Useful if you have ESO+ or have purchased the relevant DLCs)
- On a new toon go to the mage guild 1st thing and join the mage's guild - any books you find you get points. If you don't have mages guild active and you find books you don't raise in the rank.
- Go to the fighters guild and join - again you get points sooner.
- Complete the craft x6 in your starter zone. Port to Summerset and get the Jewelry crafting. Crafting is a great way to gain XP and cash for early players.
- Travel to Gold coast and pick-up the Assassins Guild quest (Go to the dock area near the small boats and meet some lady who will tell you about the Dark Brotherhood). You will also encounter a women as you port into the zone asking you to meet the contact for Cold Harbour quest. Do not start that yet as it will break your immersion alot early in the game. Leave it for later and it will make some sense. Also most Cold Harbour Dungeons and Boss fights are not pretty on low-level toons.
- After you have completed the 1st Dark Brotherhood quest - go to the Thieves Den in Cold Coast (Anvil near the wall of city directing opposite lighthouse near the dock) - there you will find Quen to start the Thieves Guild.
- By now you should have all the guilds if you have ESO+ and you should hit level 10 about now.
- Go to the Alliance War in Cyrodil when you hit level 10. You will unlock the Alliance War skills and +2 Skill points just for showing up.
Enjoy.
SocialAssassin wrote: »I actually disagree that crafting isn't useful. I have found it incredibly useful.
But what if you don't enjoy crafting? Crafting isn't for everyone. And my point was you're going to be able to buy the crafting skill lines eventually? According to the rumors. Which will turn out to be true, to be honest.
SocialAssassin wrote: »2. Don't pick all of the loot you come across. Be selective when you first start. Take what you only need. Because if you have multiple characters. That bank is going to fill up fast. And it will cost you 85,000 gold to upgrade it completely. And additional 64,500 to upgrade your bag. And that's not including the additional 12,250 to upgrade your mount. For a grand total of 162,00 to upgrade everything. So make sure you upgrade your bank first.
SocialAssassin wrote: »4. Crafting: Now a lot of gamers will tell you to need to craft. Personally, I feel crafting is just busywork. And I feel it has nothing to do with the actual game. And if the rumors are true about being able to build skill lines. Well, crafting has pretty much become a moot point. Although technically you will have to unlock it one of your characters and max it out first. It's okay if you want to craft, just don't put a lot of emphasis on it.
Use the food you find, or the drinks you loot from tables/kegs. Quickslot and use the potions you find. They can make a real difference. You will need better food and potions later, but the free crap can really help in overland.
Yes and yes. My alts mostly stay in Vivec City, because I find it most convenient to do daily writs there. But they travel to at least two places immediately. First, to the Rosy Lion to get the Undaunted skill line. And then to Alinor in Summerset. Luckily, one of my guilds has a hall practically next to it, but it's an easy trip anyway.Frenchterran wrote: »I'm making my way trough all the features of the game and i heard about jewelcrafting.
I heard it was learnable in Summerset ... is it usefull to a new char to go there to learn jewelcraft ? Is there jewelcrafting writs ?
I agree, no it should not be your first priority for skill points but definite something you should pick up on your main once you have enough free skillpoints.I actually disagree that crafting isn't useful. I have found it incredibly useful.
Crafting: Now a lot of gamers will tell you to need to craft. Personally, I feel crafting is just busywork. And I feel it has nothing to do with the actual game. And if the rumors are true about being able to build skill lines. Well, crafting has pretty much become a moot point. Although technically you will have to unlock it one of your characters and max it out first. It's okay if you want to craft, just don't put a lot of emphasis on it.
Curiously... as soon as a long line of people disagree with the crafting "advice", the OP is nowhere to be found, and no longer attacking the people who disagree with them...
That said... if less people do crafting, that means less materials in the supply chain, which will raise the price, which means more for me to make, since I will continue to do them... decisions, decisions...
Anyways... back to doing writs on my 36 characters... The 14 million a month I make in profit is enjoyable, so I can buy anything I need
Yep - disagree about crafting. Crafting writs are just easy money - and fast with an add on. Especially when you rank up and start getting gold tempers. Having some gold and sellable items coming in on the regular definitely helps in this game.
Research isn’t a quick process but traited items - except nirnhoned- are going to drop all the time anyway so why not throw them up?
I’d recommend google as well - it’s a big, complex game and a bit of knowledge can help a lot.
For that reason, I’d also join a guild. Even the trade guilds I am in give me great game advice today and I’ve played since beta.
BomblePants wrote: »Nice post
I will say that if you do choose to craft you can make a fair bit of money doing writs.... I didn’t learn this till three years in....
SocialAssassin wrote: »Yep - disagree about crafting. Crafting writs are just easy money - and fast with an add on. Especially when you rank up and start getting gold tempers. Having some gold and sellable items coming in on the regular definitely helps in this game.
Research isn’t a quick process but traited items - except nirnhoned- are going to drop all the time anyway so why not throw them up?
I’d recommend google as well - it’s a big, complex game and a bit of knowledge can help a lot.
For that reason, I’d also join a guild. Even the trade guilds I am in give me great game advice today and I’ve played since beta.
What if you're on console? There is no add on's that I am aware of?
Curiously... as soon as a long line of people disagree with the crafting "advice", the OP is nowhere to be found, and no longer attacking the people who disagree with them...
That said... if less people do crafting, that means less materials in the supply chain, which will raise the price, which means more for me to make, since I will continue to do them... decisions, decisions...
Anyways... back to doing writs on my 36 characters... The 14 million a month I make in profit is enjoyable, so I can buy anything I need
starkerealm wrote: »SocialAssassin wrote: »2. Don't pick all of the loot you come across. Be selective when you first start. Take what you only need. Because if you have multiple characters. That bank is going to fill up fast. And it will cost you 85,000 gold to upgrade it completely. And additional 64,500 to upgrade your bag. And that's not including the additional 12,250 to upgrade your mount. For a grand total of 162,00 to upgrade everything. So make sure you upgrade your bank first.
This is a little misleading. The final upgrades for the bank and bags cost the quoted amounts. That 12,250 number is very old, and hasn't been true for about four years.
It costs roughly 750k to fully upgrade the bank, and upgrading each character to max inventory costs roughly 180k (not counting your mount.)
Fully upgrading a mount (without spending money) costs 45k, though that number is a little more daunting than it actually is, because that will be spread out over, at least, half a year.
I'd actually recommend against upgrading your inventory or bank immediately. You'll receive the first upgrades for free as you level. Characters get their first bag upgrade for free at level 7, and your bank upgrade happens around level 16. (I'm not 100% certain what level the bank upgrade happens at, because this can only occur once for your account.)
If you rush out and buy upgrades, you will not get these free ones, and while the money you're saving (400g for the bag, and 1k for the bank) isn't significant in the long run, it's kinda pointless to waste those funds.SocialAssassin wrote: »4. Crafting: Now a lot of gamers will tell you to need to craft. Personally, I feel crafting is just busywork. And I feel it has nothing to do with the actual game. And if the rumors are true about being able to build skill lines. Well, crafting has pretty much become a moot point. Although technically you will have to unlock it one of your characters and max it out first. It's okay if you want to craft, just don't put a lot of emphasis on it.
While I'll readily admit that the daily crafting writs are some of the least engaging content in the game, they are also one of the best moneymakers in ESO. If you need gold for anything, you should be engaging with the crafting system on a daily basis.
Further, crafting is absolutely vital on several fronts. Crafted foods, drinks, potions and poisons will have superior stats to crown purchased ones, and some craftible consumables cannot be replicated through other means.
Durable crafting lines are vital in other ways, allowing you to "correct" the traits of items you find, or allowing you to upgrade lower quality gear to a higher rarity more efficiently.
While I can respect your opinion that crafting is, "busywork," it does offer a significant advantage in most situations. A major departure for ESO from other MMOs is that food buffs are absolutely vital. If you can't provide that for yourself, you'll need to get food from someone else.
MaleAmazon wrote: »Crafting: Now a lot of gamers will tell you to need to craft. Personally, I feel crafting is just busywork. And I feel it has nothing to do with the actual game. And if the rumors are true about being able to build skill lines. Well, crafting has pretty much become a moot point. Although technically you will have to unlock it one of your characters and max it out first. It's okay if you want to craft, just don't put a lot of emphasis on it.
Worst piece of advice ever, sorry. (Well that, and ´let´s invade Russia in the winter,´, or ´let´s chance sorc skills I´m sure the community will be reasonable about it´). Ok that was a bit hyperbolic, but:
As others have said, you need to unlock traits for transmute. Also I can totally see them adding to crafting in the future and it might then literally take you several months to catch up if you start then. The main point about getting crafting levelled early though, is that crafting, or rather trait research, has a ´speed limit´ that can only be circumvented with scrolls. So you want it going 'in the background' as you play.
However, there is a specific way to level crafting in order to get maximum benefit with minimal fuss, if you don´t think you really want to craft:
Do NOT level the main lines initially (the lines allowing you to make higher level gear). Especially if you do not have ESO+. You will just get a clutter of different materials filling up your inventory. IMO there is usually no reason to have the main craft skillines at anything but 1 and 10, unless you are crafting for sub50 PvP or training gear and can´t wait for some reason.
DO decon everything you get except ornates, once you have enough supplies (which is pretty cheap in guild stores). Get the research to 2 simultaneous traits ASAP, and get the 3rd eventually. Research literally works when you sleep. Try to get the traits you want researched early on, but keep the slots filled. Just by trash gear from guild traders if you lack that infused armor piece for research.
You can keep purple and gold pieces until you´ve levelled the extraction skills in order to get more tempers out of them (not strictly sure about that TBH, but I think it´s how it works. I´ve levelled them so I don´t care at this point ).
DO get above lvl 10 on the skill levels (so you don´t have to do the crafting certification quests, unless you really want to), then get certifications and do the writs - at least if you are on PC and can get the auto-writ crafting addon.
Oh, speaking of which, if you have a console, sell it and get a PC.