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Balancing health, resist and crit resist in no-cp battlegrounds

festher
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What is the recommended defence stats in no-cp BGs. Those 3 stats in particular. I feel my 1500 crit resist in no-cp is low. putting on inpreg is a whole other game, but lower dmg ofc.

Stamblade 5M, 1, 1 Briarheart/Spriggans/BS - all inpen and 20k HP (with drink buff outside BG)
Magblade 5L, 1, 1 Shacklebreaker/Julianos/Slimecraw - all inpen and 22k HP (with drink buff outside BG)

im currently trying to get Chudan for more resist. Maybe cut down on magicka/stam for more hp enchants?
Edited by festher on August 7, 2019 5:34PM
  • raasdal
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    Impen is less important than you would think in no cp.

    i personally strive for 26k hp, 20k resist and 3ximpen+reinf chest. That is tanky enough to survive most burst.
    PC - EU
    Gromag Gro-Molag - Sorcerer - EP
    Dexion Velus - Dragonknight - AD
    Chalaux Erissa - Nightblade - AD
    Firiel Erissa - Templar - AD
  • festher
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Impen is less important than you would think in no cp.

    i personally strive for 26k hp, 20k resist and 3ximpen+reinf chest. That is tanky enough to survive most burst.

    Thats very tanky. With buff i get as much resist on my magdk but no near 26k hp

    How do you get that high? How much stam/magcka do you have on top of that?
  • raasdal
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    20k stam / 11k magicka. 2 x procsets for damage.
    PC - EU
    Gromag Gro-Molag - Sorcerer - EP
    Dexion Velus - Dragonknight - AD
    Chalaux Erissa - Nightblade - AD
    Firiel Erissa - Templar - AD
  • Zevrro
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Impen is less important than you would think in no cp.

    i personally strive for 26k hp, 20k resist and 3ximpen+reinf chest. That is tanky enough to survive most burst.

    What? Impen is still important in no cp and wearing reinforced instead of impen is just a waste.
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    AD | Zevrro II | Magicka Nightblade | AR50 | 09-02-2019 |
    DC | Not Zevrro | Magicka Nightblade | AR33 |
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    EP | Real-Skyice | Stamina Warden | AR10 |

    >156m AP
  • BNOC
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    I have ~1750CR (7 pieces impen) and 22k HP on a magplar and it's no bother at all.
    Edited by BNOC on August 8, 2019 12:22PM
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  • Iskiab
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    As a magblade I aim for 2k magicka regen, 23k+ health, always all impen, and as much stamina as I can get.

    That usually translates to:
    Always all impen (1805)
    Longfin pasty food
    All tri-stat glyphs
    A sustain set
    Mostly magicka recovery glyphs, maybe one or two spell damage glyphs

    Once that’s all sorted, I transmute jewellery traits to protective until I can’t be ganked, trial and error.

    All this will change with the upcoming patch. For magblade I don’t like slimecraw too, much better off with bloodspawn.
    Edited by Iskiab on August 8, 2019 12:40PM
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  • raasdal
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    Zevrro wrote: »
    raasdal wrote: »
    Impen is less important than you would think in no cp.

    i personally strive for 26k hp, 20k resist and 3ximpen+reinf chest. That is tanky enough to survive most burst.

    What? Impen is still important in no cp and wearing reinforced instead of impen is just a waste.

    Sure, important and best default go-to. I said not AS important in no co (compared to cp).

    Reinforced is on chest only, which in no CP is a very viable choice. It is more overall resistance, but of course less on an actual crit.
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    Gromag Gro-Molag - Sorcerer - EP
    Dexion Velus - Dragonknight - AD
    Chalaux Erissa - Nightblade - AD
    Firiel Erissa - Templar - AD
  • Jeremy
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    festher wrote: »
    What is the recommended defence stats in no-cp BGs. Those 3 stats in particular. I feel my 1500 crit resist in no-cp is low. putting on inpreg is a whole other game, but lower dmg ofc.

    Stamblade 5M, 1, 1 Briarheart/Spriggans/BS - all inpen and 20k HP (with drink buff outside BG)
    Magblade 5L, 1, 1 Shacklebreaker/Julianos/Slimecraw - all inpen and 22k HP (with drink buff outside BG)

    im currently trying to get Chudan for more resist. Maybe cut down on magicka/stam for more hp enchants?

    I don't recommend going out of your way to build resistance in None CP PvP. Defensive strategies are a waste in my opinion - as skilled players will melt you regardless. It's just not very effective - except maybe during the rare as unicorn moments you find yourself in a 1v1 encounter.
    Edited by Jeremy on August 8, 2019 11:02PM
  • Waffennacht
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    Impen on armor unless going for well fitted or sturdy

    Major protection
    Minor Main
    Major expedition
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • Avnr
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    wiered maybe but

    my L armor magblade very tanky , same gear on my magdk- magdk very Fragile - both berton

    For test i put forti_impreg+bs on magdk.... not aven close tanky as magblade with spinner+clever+skoria

    So i change all to offence with high crit and ignore resist and crit resist , working way better
    burningSW+rattl+skoria

  • Waffennacht
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    Avnr wrote: »
    wiered maybe but

    my L armor magblade very tanky , same gear on my magdk- magdk very Fragile - both berton

    For test i put forti_impreg+bs on magdk.... not aven close tanky as magblade with spinner+clever+skoria

    So i change all to offence with high crit and ignore resist and crit resist , working way better
    burningSW+rattl+skoria

    Different classes will have different outcomes with the same sets
    Gamer tag: DasPanzerKat NA Xbox One
    1300+ CP
    Battleground PvP'er

    Waffennacht' Builds
  • NeroTheDk
    NeroTheDk
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    What about heavy armor builds? I know about the seventh legion, fury set up. What overall resistance is do you think we should have so we can focus on sustain? Also what type of minimal amount of damage do you need in order to be effective? Like the actual stat.
  • Iskiab
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    This thread is out of date, I was still playing a magblade and using protective.

    Easiest thing to do is to go to Dottz or something and copy your class’ pvp build. Always all impen, never use protective, and focus less on build until you get the hang of pvp and more the tactics.
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    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    Condemned and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
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