Maelstrom looth chance.....

KinnikuBeam · July 2019

Hello, I've been doing Maelstrom for 2 months now, to win Maelstrom's bow, and I still have not got it, what's the problem .... i finish each test on a score between 400000 and 450 000 and even with the reward in fact of week, not nothing makes there, I do not win it, I begin to depressed and be nauseated of the game.

Shanehere · July 2019

Create a magicka-based character, level him up, and make him your main. Become so completely invested in this character that you now completely disregard all of your other characters. When you hit max level, begin gearing him. Get all the sets and jewelry you need to complete whatever content you prefer, and finally set foot into vMA and work painstakingly in order to acquire a precious vMA Inferno Staff.

That's when the vMA Bow should drop for you.

therift · July 2019

Shanehere wrote: »

Create a magicka-based character, level him up, and make him your main. Become so completely invested in this character that you now completely disregard all of your other characters. When you hit max level, begin gearing him. Get all the sets and jewelry you need to complete whatever content you prefer, and finally set foot into vMA and work painstakingly in order to acquire a precious vMA Inferno Staff.

That's when the vMA Bow should drop for you.

^ Fact

jecks33 · July 2019

i ran vMa over 200 times and i never found a inferno staff. The only one i have comes from weekly reward.

Be patient

virtus753 · July 2019

They did change the drop chance of Maelstrom weapons quite some time ago. The drop table originally favored the bow, since the roll went by set first, there are only six sets, and the bow is the only Thunderous Volley weapon.

A couple years ago they changed the drop rates to select for weapon type first rather than set, which would give the bow less than an 8% chance of dropping, iirc, if all weapon types had the same weight. But they explicitly lowered the drop rate of bows on top of that, without specifying what the actual chance is in the end.

Since it’s chance, it takes some people very few runs and others very many. Some people get what they want on their first run, others only after 100 runs. Most of us fall somewhere in the middle.

If it’s really putting you off this much, it may be best to take a break from vMA. The bow might very well lose its BiS status next patch anyhow in favor of the master’s.

jecks33 · July 2019

Farming Master Bow is another pain in the a**

SORjosh · July 2019

KinnikuBeam wrote: »

Hello, I've been doing Maelstrom for 2 months now, to win Maelstrom's bow, and I still have not got it, what's the problem .... i finish each test on a score between 400000 and 450 000 and even with the reward in fact of week, not nothing makes there, I do not win it, I begin to depressed and be nauseated of the game.

It took me 100+ clears over the course of a year to finally get mine. Good luck, prayers sent.

virtus753 · July 2019

jecks33 wrote: »

Farming Master Bow is another pain in the a**

Indeed! But if you do it with friends, at least you have some company - and up to three other chances at the right drop.

SidraWillowsky · July 2019

RNJesus has been kind to me in vMA... 2 inferno staves, 2 bows, 2 resto staves, , 2x sets of DW weaps, sword + board, and 2x two-handers over 8 runs + 3 sets of weekly rewards. Not all of that is useful, but hey, you never know. The things I wanted (bow, staff) dropped in the correct trait and everything! I do want the shock staff though, so that'll probably be the thing to take ages...

Dat BSW inferno staff on the other hand... I'm convinced it's the rarest drop in the game.

pattyLtd · July 2019

I got my lightning staff on second complete.
Bow on the 5th.

Just my luck, after 10 completes no reason to do it anymore

Betty_Booms · July 2019

Ive had 3 bows drop on my mag sorc. 1 lightening staff.

rotaugen454 · July 2019

virtus753 wrote: »

jecks33 wrote: »

Farming Master Bow is another pain in the a**

Indeed! But if you do it with friends, at least you have some company - and up to three other chances at the right drop.

How do you do a solo arena with friends? Or are you only referring to Master weapons?

tmbrinks · July 2019

300+ runs for me to get my sharp lightning, back when that was the best, and before transmutation.

Was still going for my infused bow when they announced transmutation, and decided one of the 15 I had saved in other traits could be transmuted.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · July 2019

rotaugen454 wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

jecks33 wrote: »

Farming Master Bow is another pain in the a**

Indeed! But if you do it with friends, at least you have some company - and up to three other chances at the right drop.

How do you do a solo arena with friends? Or are you only referring to Master weapons?

In fairness, we used to do VMA races/drinking games back in the day. We would all get in Teamspeak (yeah discord wasnt a thing) and all start at the same time. You die, you drink. Trash talking was also highly encouraged.

eso_lytw8 · July 2019

There is a lot of evidence that suggests the drop rates are not equal and differ by character. This means that some characters have a higher chance for some weapons and lower chance for others. What is really random is whether or not you are on a character that has a decent chance at getting a bow. The good news is this appears to reset every 3-6 months and also is different for weapons coming from the weekly mail drop. So if you are good at VMA I recommend running it on another character. Also consider how long you've been trying if you've tried for 3+ months you might get a reset and be able to get a bow, but for some people the reset comes and you still get a lousy bow chance so it can go on for years if you are really unlucky.

Its been reported that people have gone 500+ tries without an inferno staff. If you doubt what I have written calculate the odds of not get an inferno staff with 500+ tried at a 1/12th chance. It is as impossible as impossible gets, yet it happens meaning some characters don't have a 1/12th chance.

The above theory completely explains how 500+ runs without a specific weapon could happen.

Hope this helps.

tmbrinks · July 2019

eso_lytw8 wrote: »

There is a lot of evidence that suggests the drop rates are not equal and differ by character. This means that some characters have a higher chance for some weapons and lower chance for others. What is really random is whether or not you are on a character that has a decent chance at getting a bow. The good news is this appears to reset every 3-6 months and also is different for weapons coming from the weekly mail drop. So if you are good at VMA I recommend running it on another character. Also consider how long you've been trying if you've tried for 3+ months you might get a reset and be able to get a bow, but for some people the reset comes and you still get a lousy bow chance so it can go on for years if you are really unlucky.

Its been reported that people have gone 500+ tries without an inferno staff. If you doubt what I have written calculate the odds of not get an inferno staff with 500+ tried at a 1/12th chance. It is as impossible as impossible gets, yet it happens meaning some characters don't have a 1/12th chance.

The above theory completely explains how 500+ runs without a specific weapon could happen.

Hope this helps.

I would hypothesize that many of those people are either...

1. Embellishing the number substantially (humans are terrible at "counting" numbers beyond 20 or so in regards to events)
2. Talking about 500+ runs BEFORE transmutation, where you now had 96 variants work through, which is much, much more plausible to happen.

Carl-lan · July 2019

Second that Magica character theory. I run a stam NB and have wanted the bow for ages. Yet I have a sharpened inferno staff, lightning staff among others, and a heap of shields... yet no bow. I’ve never even use those weapons! Super frustrating.

virtus753 · July 2019

rotaugen454 wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

jecks33 wrote: »

Farming Master Bow is another pain in the a**

Indeed! But if you do it with friends, at least you have some company - and up to three other chances at the right drop.

How do you do a solo arena with friends? Or are you only referring to Master weapons?

I was responding to the quote about farming the Master’s bow, yes.

Now I suppose you could invite some friends over for moral support for vma. I’d have to pay mine in popcorn, though...

Oreyn_Bearclaw · July 2019

eso_lytw8 wrote: »

There is a lot of evidence that suggests the drop rates are not equal and differ by character. This means that some characters have a higher chance for some weapons and lower chance for others. What is really random is whether or not you are on a character that has a decent chance at getting a bow. The good news is this appears to reset every 3-6 months and also is different for weapons coming from the weekly mail drop. So if you are good at VMA I recommend running it on another character. Also consider how long you've been trying if you've tried for 3+ months you might get a reset and be able to get a bow, but for some people the reset comes and you still get a lousy bow chance so it can go on for years if you are really unlucky.

Its been reported that people have gone 500+ tries without an inferno staff. If you doubt what I have written calculate the odds of not get an inferno staff with 500+ tried at a 1/12th chance. It is as impossible as impossible gets, yet it happens meaning some characters don't have a 1/12th chance.

The above theory completely explains how 500+ runs without a specific weapon could happen.

Hope this helps.

I have heard the same thing for years, and I don't buy any of it.

The second I hear someone say they have done VMA 500 times, I already dont believe what comes next. To be candid, I have no clue how many times I have done that place, but I know it's not anywhere near 500. When we transmute finally became a thing, I went through and kept 5 of each weapon type, and deconed the rest. I had a lot of decon'ing to do, and many of my runs were before guaranteed drops in the final chest. Not saying it's not possible, but I dont believe anyone has actually run 500 times and never seen a bow (or fire staff, or whatever).

rotaugen454 · July 2019

virtus753 wrote: »

rotaugen454 wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

jecks33 wrote: »

Farming Master Bow is another pain in the a**

Indeed! But if you do it with friends, at least you have some company - and up to three other chances at the right drop.

How do you do a solo arena with friends? Or are you only referring to Master weapons?

I was responding to the quote about farming the Master’s bow, yes.

Now I suppose you could invite some friends over for moral support for vma. I’d have to pay mine in popcorn, though...

Mine would demand beer.

Katahdin · July 2019

RNG can be a fickle mistress
Or she can smile on you.

First vMA completion I got an inferno staff
Second, I got the bow.

ChunkyCat · July 2019

The title of this post has read “looth” all damn day.

Can you get off your ass and just edit it already?!

Kel · July 2019

ChunkyCat wrote: »

The title of this post has read “looth” all damn day.

Can you get off your ass and just edit it already?!

I was just thinking the same thing...
🤣