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Can't get rid of feeling that I'm carried

  • Kalgert
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    Kalgert wrote: »
    Kalgert wrote: »
    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    I tired to kill my Skeleton. It took 3 minutes 4 seconds, and result is 16364 DPS. I want to uninstall this game. So much efforts during recent months, and all useless...

    Don't give up man. Just keep practicing! B)
    How about me? I've been killing skeletons for months, using different skills, attacking and quickly using a skill when I hear the distinct "clank" that the skeleton makes, even switched to a two-hander (As it turns out oddly enough, I do more DPS with a two-hander than I do with dual-wielding), and all I can muster at most is 17 to 18k. My damage only improved by 2k from 15k when I went Stamina from Magicka on my Dragon Knight, and roughly 1k after switching to a two-hander.

    What does that say about me, who has been hitting a skeleton for months and has noticed no significant improvement?

    And no, I refuse to give websites the time of day, considering they're so horribly designed, that I feel actual physical pain trying to read through them.

    well the refusal to check out builds and parses on websites says something about you.
    namel< that you are to , lets say lazy, to check out other peoples approach tho wthis problem, and the ignoreance to accept help by viewing vids etc.

    you accept help, in your case the tips to keep pratiticing, if they are brought up to you, but you turn down suggestion like checking homepages cause then you would have to read throuh a text and maybe watch a video to understand the reasons behind certain skills or sets used.

    if its really unpleasent to read a guide on certain homepages, then you can still mark the whole text and copy it over into a wrod, and print out, this is not an excuse to ignore the guides online!

    that the fundamental flaw all arround the globe these days, to lazy to do stuff yourself, but other should be the ones investing time and teaching you how something works. this calculations will never add up over the long run, since ppl will get bored giving you tips if you donw follow them.

    sorry if it offends you but thats how I interpret your post.
    Here's how my experience was when I checked Alcast:
    "Okay I wanna be a Stamina DK, here is one... Not a big fan of the black background on white text, but whatever. This is guide feels too wordy, with information scattered all around the place, not interested."
    Then Xynode:
    "Ugh, who's idea was it to leave the Elsweyr logo as a background? Some things I can't even properly read. This is the worst website I've seen yet for game guides!"
    Maybe it was me unlucky or something, but I tried watching a video, the individual commentating sounded about as enthusiastic as a loaf of soggy bread, and talked non-stop about things, when I was thinking "Get to the point already!".

    Ultimately, I feel like guides are useless, as you can do whatever they tell you, but it doesn't guarantee results if you don't get the playstyle or if you hate the playstyle. That and I just don't trust/respect the person writing the guide. Got burned too many times before.

    Also I find it brave that you consider me "Lazy", as it would imply that I am doing absolutely nothing with myself and just sit there staring at the sky, and then going to the forums to yell "My DPS is not improving!". And when I say "Do nothing" I mean literally not do anything. Hitting a skeleton, using different skills and weapons and farming Fighters Guild shows that I am actually doing SOMETHING.

    Or I can just play tank. It may not be as satisfying as a DPS, but it's something I can play and am excelling at, so that is a positive (InB-Four some keyboard warrior comes screeching "This is an admission of defeat! You will never achieve anything in life!" Or some other B.S)
    If you're on PC EU I can give you some tips on stamDK, if you'd like some tips about rotation improvement on it.
    I appreciate the offer, but sorry, I do not trust you.
  • r34lian
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    I tired to kill my Skeleton. It took 3 minutes 4 seconds, and result is 16364 DPS. I want to uninstall this game. So much efforts during recent months, and all useless...

    There are many factors that result in dps that is ping , weaving , gear etc
    3 months ago I was unable to even get past 24k dps despite being max cp with all those shiny gear than my stam sorc changed it within a day in was about to increase my dps to 35k+ and after getting vMA weapons easily getting past 40k+.
    What I meant to say was fault which in my case was holding rmb little longer which wasn't resulting in light attack and when I used crushing weapon as spammable for my stamsorc that's where I noticed the problem.
  • sudaki_eso
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    If you feel you got carried and you dont like it why not play the dungeons in normal mode? 16k dps for normal is more then enough, for vet its way too low in my book. Transmute crystals also drop in normal and once you got "better" or found a class/playstyle which fits you better, go for vet again.
    On the other side, if the group doesnt complain just roll with them. All the base game dungoens shouldnt be a problem if there is only one real dd in it, takes longer but shouldnt be a problem at all. And if you dont die you are doing something right, had quite a few carries where the guy was dead half of the time :wink:
    Edited by sudaki_eso on June 20, 2019 2:16PM
    PS4 EU - StamDK
  • Darkenarlol
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    you are *carried* only if another dd in your party

    does tremendous dps and everybody cryes about your

    low dps and how they carry you...


    if you are doing ~40% of your party dps with your 16k

    (lol 16k is about just light attacks and nothing more - elitist comment)

    then you are not carried - just playing with equal

    low skill lower league players. (elitist comment again lol)

    if noone complains and you with your friends

    are having fun - nothing to worry about.


    but if you want to *l2p & gitgud* then welcome to

    the long but rewarding road of practice rotations, min/maxing, practice and...practice ;)


    best of luck anyway :)
  • Asardes
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    Try the newer DLCs :)
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  • AbysmalGhul
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    Kalgert wrote: »
    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    I tired to kill my Skeleton. It took 3 minutes 4 seconds, and result is 16364 DPS. I want to uninstall this game. So much efforts during recent months, and all useless...

    Don't give up man. Just keep practicing! B)
    How about me? I've been killing skeletons for months, using different skills, attacking and quickly using a skill when I hear the distinct "clank" that the skeleton makes, even switched to a two-hander (As it turns out oddly enough, I do more DPS with a two-hander than I do with dual-wielding), and all I can muster at most is 17 to 18k. My damage only improved by 2k from 15k when I went Stamina from Magicka on my Dragon Knight, and roughly 1k after switching to a two-hander.

    What does that say about me, who has been hitting a skeleton for months and has noticed no significant improvement?

    And no, I refuse to give websites the time of day, considering they're so horribly designed, that I feel actual physical pain trying to read through them.

    You have to put in the effort and you have to identify why your aren't improving. Pulling higher numbers is a matter of practicing with a proper rotation.

    1. Learn what spammable you can use for your build, class and learn to light attack weave it....etc etc etc
    2. Use decent gear and the preferred mundus stone for your class/build
    3. Don't let your dots fall off
    4. Mix all of the ingredients and practice

    I have a Low CP alt account (CP340) and I'm pulling 38k consistently while wearing Julianos and Mother's Sorrow on my non-pet mag sorcerer.
  • dtsharples
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    Practice, Practice, Practice your rotation
    Keep yourself self-buffed up
    Let your DOTs run their course where possible
    Keep bar swapping to a minimum - set-up your skill-bars for the most effective rotation for you
    Layer your DOT's and refresh as needed (Theres an Addon that shows a timer cooldown on each skill on your bar)
    Make sure your Weapons have the correct Trait + Enchant
    Make sure to use Spell Damage / Crit potions when practicing on the dummy
    Have a friend use 'Weakness to Elements' on the Dummy

    One test on the dummy is nowhere near enough - you really do have to practice.
    There can be many, many things that affect your DPS results. For example, a friend was using Purple food as they thought it was the best in game (being purple). Obviously it isnt, and after switching to Witch-mother brew his DPS jumped up by about 9k.
    A Guildie was using a Destro staff with an unhelpful Powered trait, they bought it because it was cheap and didn't realise the effect it could have. Changing to a useful trait and making the staff gold increased his DPS.
    'Silly' little mistakes like this can have a devastating effect.

    Also, I notice that you don't mention which armour sets you are using.
    I understand that you have upgraded them to gold, but are they actually the best sets for you to be using?
    Making armour pieces gold has quite a small effect on stats, however making weapons gold has quite a huge effect.

    I'd like you to do a test again on the dummy - this time ONLY use your self buffs and Heavy Lightening staff attacks.
    No other damaging skills.
    Even with just this, you should get 10k very easily.
    This might help define whether it is your armour sets / stats that are the problem, or your rotation / skills used.
  • Coatmagic
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    OP ~ don't let it get you down! Find some people, even one other person, to run with; as a pet sorc you have a lot of options!

    *sigh* so much focus on damage and over half the people I encounter can't even keep themselves alive xD

    I wouldn't even join in group content until I was able to solo all the vanilla dungeons on normal because of these feelings of not being good enough...

    and you know what? I'm never going to average even 40k dps and you know what else?

    Unless you are looking at leader boards and speed achievs it does't matter in the least.

    PS: Yeah, I hear there are a few dps checks in this game, friends and I are all 'snowflake' builds and will cross that bridge when we come to it. For now we are happy we managed to get VS down without wiping xD
  • siddique
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    Keep practicing, you'll get better. I was stuck at 25k for the longest time then one day I hit 27k. Then I was stuck at 33k and couldn't get past no matter what I did.

    Then one day I hit 36k. Got stuck between 34-36k, eventually I was stuck at 39k. More practice finally pushed me to 40k. These days I consistently hit 42k, with a maximum of 45k once.

    There are a lot of things you need to be aware of:

    Gold gear, especially weapons, it's enchants and traits.
    Put skill points in medicinal use, use spell power pots, keep them up 100percent. This alone will improve your numbers.
    And then rotation, light attack before every skill, keep your dots up 100 percent and animation cancel on bar swap. I'm sure you'll see a huge increase in numbers.
    Edited by siddique on June 20, 2019 11:52AM
    Gulp down a detection pot, find a sneaky little cloaking Nightblade, murder them in cold blood. One of the finest pleasures of life.

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  • myskyrim26
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    @dtsharples
    TY for advices. My gear is Necropotence, Mother's Sorrow and Ilamris. Divines gear, Precise and Infused staffs. I use Double Bloody Mara food. My CPs allocated based on Alcast's petsorc build yet adjusted to my skills.
  • luton0watford4
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    Count yourself lucky, I only did 12k dps on a target dummy! (Hence why I tank).
  • siddique
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    @dtsharples
    TY for advices. My gear is Necropotence, Mother's Sorrow and Ilamris. Divines gear, Precise and Infused staffs. I use Double Bloody Mara food. My CPs allocated based on Alcast's petsorc build yet adjusted to my skills.

    Use Zaan instead of Ilambris, that's a dps increase. Put weapon damage glyph on front bar inferno precise and flame damage glyph on infused back bar.

    Shadow mundus.
    Gulp down a detection pot, find a sneaky little cloaking Nightblade, murder them in cold blood. One of the finest pleasures of life.

    "May your soul burn." Molag Bal
  • Robo_Hobo
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    Give the skeleton a few more goes - one addon I might recommend is BanditsUI (or Action Duration Reminder) because it helps you keep track of your DoTs, a lot of your dps could be lost if you don't know when to reapply them, and as a sorc, that lightning can be hard to see sometimes.

    BanditsUI also has a DPS counter built into it.

    Keep in mind dps testing can be a bit finnicky sometimes especially with pets, combat starts the second something attacks, not when you do, so if your pet started attacking it before you were ready and you waited a bit before starting yourself, your DPS would look real low too because the timer had already started well before you did. It can tend to happen a lot when having just killed the prior skeleton.

    You'll get more DPS on a 6m dummy as well rather than a 3m dummy, because your passive that gives you extra damage the higher % an enemy has will last longer, and so will your Twilight Tormentor's effect of dealing extra damage while the enemy is above 50% health. If you're doing solo testing by yourself you would want to use Elemental Drain too for sustain and the Major Breach debuff, you can just replace where your ward would go on your bar since you wouldn't need to use that for a dps test, and neither would you need ele drain in the standard dungeon run.
  • siddique
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    If you want more cheese, use Zaan, Siroria and Spell Strategist.

    Back bar: ele drain, daedric prey, liquid lightning, blockade, twilight
    Front bar: force pulse/elemental weapon, crystal frags, bound aegis, mages wrath, twilight

    Before you start the parse, put the eledrain on the dummy. Gulp spell pot, drop storm atro.

    Light Attack - Liquid Lightning - Light Attack - Blockade - Light Attack, Daedric Prey (animation cancel to front bar)

    Light Attack - Force Pulse (x3) if frag procs, use it asap, bar swap, repeat.

    Apply daedric prey upon explosion, gulp pot on cooldown, drop atro as soon as available. Maybe every second or third rotation, reapply ele drain.

    If there is someone else to ele drain for you, you can simply skip that and use bound aegis on back bar as well or some other skill.

    As soon as dummy hits 20 percent, execute with mages wrath.

    P.s, jewelry with spell damage, Infused or Bloodthirsty.
    Gulp down a detection pot, find a sneaky little cloaking Nightblade, murder them in cold blood. One of the finest pleasures of life.

    "May your soul burn." Molag Bal
  • MartiniDaniels
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    Rotation is very important, but with right build you can get 16k just spamming light attack+blockade. Share your build (you can take snapshot of it in new combat metrics), and people will advice on points of improvement. And gear matters, each piece of BiS gear affects dps and given that dps has multiplicative, each new piece of BiS brings more growth as well as any buff.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    siddique wrote: »
    If you want more cheese, use Zaan, Siroria and Spell Strategist.

    Back bar: ele drain, daedric prey, liquid lightning, blockade, twilight
    Front bar: force pulse/elemental weapon, crystal frags, bound aegis, mages wrath, twilight

    Before you start the parse, put the eledrain on the dummy. Gulp spell pot, drop storm atro.

    Light Attack - Liquid Lightning - Light Attack - Blockade - Light Attack, Daedric Prey (animation cancel to front bar)

    Light Attack - Force Pulse (x3) if frag procs, use it asap, bar swap, repeat.

    Apply daedric prey upon explosion, gulp pot on cooldown, drop atro as soon as available. Maybe every second or third rotation, reapply ele drain.

    If there is someone else to ele drain for you, you can simply skip that and use bound aegis on back bar as well or some other skill.

    As soon as dummy hits 20 percent, execute with mages wrath.

    P.s, jewelry with spell damage, Infused or Bloodthirsty.

    Well, I understand why top players are doing all this cheesy things, it's important to grab max possible numbers. But if person parses for personal use, i.e. just to do their job in dps role, what's the point of drinking potion before the parse and other similar things? I'll say OP should start with simple things like keeping up self-buffs, main dots and LA weaving, find balance between sustain, spammable and damage and only after when all that is working with good efficiency (75%+ light attacks weaved, 90%+ dots and buffs uptime), he may start thinking about different tricks.
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  • Sansoul
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    Man just hearing the word "carried" brings back the horrible memories of the narcissism, hubris and unbearable elitism that has utterly ruined current day retail wow.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    EDS604 wrote: »
    tank usually has like 2% - 3%, healer around 4% - 8%. around 45% you're about equal to the other DD

    In groupfinder PUGs, healers typically do ~15-40% of damage. At least, that's while I'm healing, wearing SPC and Earthgore, refreshing Mutagen and Elemental Drain on cooldown, etc.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    Thank you all for advices and good words. Yet I don't think I ever can be better than I am now. Skills and passives scrutinized, rotation practiced, gear made golden, CPs adjusted, video tutorials wathced over and over again... No, guys, I'm hopeless. I regret I tried that damn skeleton. Will run the last dungeon for a missing transmute crystal, and that's it.

    Two ways to see in Combat Metrics that you could be a lot better:
    • How many light attacks are you doing?
    • How much magicka are you using?

    Everybody will tell you the first one. But I suspect that the high-DPS players, of whom I'm not one, should also be talking more about the second. I suspect that one reason my numbers are too low -- and sometimes go DOWN when I increase the number of light attacks I weave in -- is that I'm simply not firing my skills fast enough.
  • Fivefivesix
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    I wouldnt be discouraged beating a dummy with 3 mil health by yourself. I usually only get 19k damage on my dummy. Combat metrics is a great addon which you should def learn how to use. When Im in dungeons I usually do 50 - 60% of damage on the bosses and my dps is usually around 35k. It really depends on what gear other players are wearing that can buff you and if they are de-buffing the bosses which can make your dps sky rocket. I did a vHRC the other day and my dps reached 76k at one point with buffs from other players and potions.

    The dummys I think never give you a good representation of your dps compaired to numbers you will get when grouped in trials or dungeons. It sounds like you're doing just fine.
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  • LadyNalcarya
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    Everyone is talking about light attack weaving, but I think the problem here is low DoT uptime. Liquid lightning+blockade do a lot of damage on their own, it can't be that full rotation only does 16k...
    OP, can you record a video of your rotation (or at least post a combat metrics screenshot)? Then you can get more specific advice.
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  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    I tired to kill my Skeleton. It took 3 minutes 4 seconds, and result is 16364 DPS. I want to uninstall this game. So much efforts during recent months, and all useless...

    I used to think the same. A couple weeks ago I was stuck at 16k-17k.

    I'm now reliably hitting 27k-28k. A few outlier parses of 29k-30k, meaning I know it's possible. Just need to work on my technique.

    Don't uninstall. Keep practising. Use those potions to emulate live boss fights, consider gear. Definitely run gold weapons with gold enchants.

    Like me, you won't get there if you don't try.
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  • driosketch
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    I tired to kill my Skeleton. It took 3 minutes 4 seconds, and result is 16364 DPS. I want to uninstall this game. So much efforts during recent months, and all useless...

    I do slightly better than that single target versus the dummy, yet in Vet trials I'm hitting 45k+, according to Combat Metrics, vs the groups. I'm also doing better versus single target bosses with the boost from the support roles. A dummy test can be misleading. You can go and create a build only to cheese a high number, but that will probably never work in actual group content. Or, you can use that score as a self frame of reference to practice and tighten your rotation.
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  • CMDR_Un1k0rn
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    I tired to kill my Skeleton. It took 3 minutes 4 seconds, and result is 16364 DPS. I want to uninstall this game. So much efforts during recent months, and all useless...

    I used to think the same. A couple weeks ago I was stuck at 16k-17k.

    I'm now reliably hitting 27k-28k. A few outlier parses of 29k-30k, meaning I know it's possible. Just need to work on my technique.

    Don't uninstall. Keep practising. Use those potions to emulate live boss fights, consider gear. Definitely run gold weapons with gold enchants.

    Like me, you won't get there if you don't try.

    Just to add on this.

    Yes, it will take time. Last week I was up until 1am every day for that week, just training on a dummy in the guild hall.

    Honestly, DPS in ESO is like real-world sports. You have to put in a lot of time to get better. Cheesy as it sounds, you have to train.

    I think my efforts to increase DPS have given me, if only slight, insight into the lives of professional eSports athletes. Gaming can have exceptionally high time-investment requirements.
    -I like tanking, apparently.
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    -Horses are cool.
    -Birbs are even coolerer.
    -I alone am responsible for the "no cheese in space" meme. Sheogorath would be proud.
  • SirAxen
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    duddjoyri wrote: »
    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    Trancestor wrote: »
    How old are you and what is your average ping?

    I'm 35 - why is it important? Playing since 2016. And I don't know my ping. My Frapps show 60-70 FPS everywhere if it tells about something.

    @zaria
    Tried tanking - I was a good tank, but this is boring. tried healing, and it is way too boring for me...

    If you found tanking boring in ESO then you were doing it wrong. Maybe you were thinking of WoW?!

    I never played WoW, neither I want to. I hate MMO games. But I have to play ESO because I'm a lore fan.

    Personally, I think your DPS is just fine for four person content. If you want to graduate to Trials, it is simply a matter of repetition and practice my good man. Don't stress so much about numbers, just enjoy Elder Scrolls.
  • Kalgert
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    Guardna wrote: »
    Kalgert wrote: »
    Kalgert wrote: »
    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    I tired to kill my Skeleton. It took 3 minutes 4 seconds, and result is 16364 DPS. I want to uninstall this game. So much efforts during recent months, and all useless...

    Don't give up man. Just keep practicing! B)
    How about me? I've been killing skeletons for months, using different skills, attacking and quickly using a skill when I hear the distinct "clank" that the skeleton makes, even switched to a two-hander (As it turns out oddly enough, I do more DPS with a two-hander than I do with dual-wielding), and all I can muster at most is 17 to 18k. My damage only improved by 2k from 15k when I went Stamina from Magicka on my Dragon Knight, and roughly 1k after switching to a two-hander.

    What does that say about me, who has been hitting a skeleton for months and has noticed no significant improvement?

    And no, I refuse to give websites the time of day, considering they're so horribly designed, that I feel actual physical pain trying to read through them.

    well the refusal to check out builds and parses on websites says something about you.
    namel< that you are to , lets say lazy, to check out other peoples approach tho wthis problem, and the ignoreance to accept help by viewing vids etc.

    you accept help, in your case the tips to keep pratiticing, if they are brought up to you, but you turn down suggestion like checking homepages cause then you would have to read throuh a text and maybe watch a video to understand the reasons behind certain skills or sets used.

    if its really unpleasent to read a guide on certain homepages, then you can still mark the whole text and copy it over into a wrod, and print out, this is not an excuse to ignore the guides online!

    that the fundamental flaw all arround the globe these days, to lazy to do stuff yourself, but other should be the ones investing time and teaching you how something works. this calculations will never add up over the long run, since ppl will get bored giving you tips if you donw follow them.

    sorry if it offends you but thats how I interpret your post.
    Here's how my experience was when I checked Alcast:
    "Okay I wanna be a Stamina DK, here is one... Not a big fan of the black background on white text, but whatever. This is guide feels too wordy, with information scattered all around the place, not interested."
    Then Xynode:
    "Ugh, who's idea was it to leave the Elsweyr logo as a background? Some things I can't even properly read. This is the worst website I've seen yet for game guides!"
    Maybe it was me unlucky or something, but I tried watching a video, the individual commentating sounded about as enthusiastic as a loaf of soggy bread, and talked non-stop about things, when I was thinking "Get to the point already!".

    Ultimately, I feel like guides are useless, as you can do whatever they tell you, but it doesn't guarantee results if you don't get the playstyle or if you hate the playstyle. That and I just don't trust/respect the person writing the guide. Got burned too many times before.

    Also I find it brave that you consider me "Lazy", as it would imply that I am doing absolutely nothing with myself and just sit there staring at the sky, and then going to the forums to yell "My DPS is not improving!". And when I say "Do nothing" I mean literally not do anything. Hitting a skeleton, using different skills and weapons and farming Fighters Guild shows that I am actually doing SOMETHING.

    Or I can just play tank. It may not be as satisfying as a DPS, but it's something I can play and am excelling at, so that is a positive (InB-Four some keyboard warrior comes screeching "This is an admission of defeat! You will never achieve anything in life!" Or some other B.S)

    People this days are so spoiled.Oh no, this web site doesnt look pretty enough lets ignore its content even though all the information on it is important for me to improve and i went out of my way to find that but cant get over the looks and people in videos dont overhype and oversell the build and say it plain and simple and i dont like that and i hope they get the the point and say the magic formula for dps instead of taking their time to explan every single bit and reasoning about their build so it helps others understand and and use it better but no its too long and boring for me too listen so i will instead complain about my bad performance on forums and say there is nothing i could have done about it.Thats how you sound.
    And you sound like a jackass and are intentionally misrepresenting my points with a childish demeanor.

    The way a website looks and how information is spread out is, unsurprisingly, rather important. If the information is spread out all over the place, or it's ontop of a layout that makes it hard to read, no one is gonna bother as it looks like the person put little effort in making it presentable.

    And when I talk about the videos, it is because someone sounding like he's about to fall asleep makes for a very unpassionate video, that reflects onto the viewers. And I say this as someone who's working on a video with commentary, if I sound like as I usually do (Very relaxed and quiet), only people I'll attract are those who need ASMR to fall asleep. It's not to oversell to a bunch of children with ADD, but to simply express a bit of passion.

    You can disagree all you want, but that's how it is. Got a problem? Then eat me.

    Edit: Besides, I've been playing as a tank for a majority of my recent relapse. Less stressful and I don't need to deal with having people give me *** about "ur not diing enuf dps". Admitively I woulld like to unwind and just play as a DPS, but I am too considerate to my own detriment of other players to just queue as a DPS and take glorious *** on people who'd decide to talk trash to me.
    Edited by Kalgert on June 20, 2019 2:15PM
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