"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet...is what the OP said. It is slightly different from the general interpretation going on here. Slightly...You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion.
Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
With that in mind, the OP's request was that when these perspectives are expressed, if you can add something to it, positive or negative; you could at least try to do it with some respect towards the person expressing their perspective.
Especially when it takes place in this sort of arena, which is specifically designed for that purpose.
DanteMR1995 wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
It's not that I'm asking you to respect their opinion, but rather that you should respect each other. And if you disagree, just agree to disagree. Do this instead of saying others are "whining" or "stupid" just because they disagree with you.
Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
I don't fully understand when that stated perspective crosses some boundary and becomes 'an opinion'.
Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet...is what the OP said. It is slightly different from the general interpretation going on here. Slightly...You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion.Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
With that in mind, the OP's request was that when these perspectives are expressed, if you can add something to it, positive or negative; you could at least try to do it with some respect towards the person expressing their perspective.
Especially when it takes place in this sort of arena, which is specifically designed for that purpose.
I'm aware. I enjoy philosophy, though, and was drawn to reply specifically to that general misinterpretation going on in this thread. I guess I should have said that my earlier post was meant to be slightly off topic. It's not entirely off topic, though, since most perspectives are opinions.
But on the topic of the OP, I've long held the...well...opinion that we should accept that others may not experience things in-game the same way we do. Like the whole PvE vs. PvP debate that's prevalent in MMOs everywhere; it's a pretty stupid divide, as they're both real parts of the game that some people do and others do not enjoy. People enjoy different things, and we really shouldn't disparage that.
So on that point I certainly agree.Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
I don't fully understand when that stated perspective crosses some boundary and becomes 'an opinion'.
It's actually not as complicated as people tend to make it out to be. I'm not trying to patronize you; I just want to be thorough in my explanation.
When you make a statement - when you say anything, and it isn't a question - it is either a fact or an opinion. If it can be quantifiably proven or disproven, it is a fact. Facts can be correct or incorrect. If it cannot be quantifiably proven or disproven, then it is an opinion. Opinions can neither be factually correct or factually incorrect.
True Fact: [while holding a ball] "This is a ball."
False Fact: [while holding a ball] "This is a box."
Opinion: [while holding a ball] "This ball is fun to play with."
Opinion: [while holding a ball] "This ball is no fun at all."
Things get a little more confusing when you have conflicting evidence for a fact. Let's use the effect of dietary fat on weight gain as an example. There are studies that support that "you can gain weight by consuming fat", but there are also studies that claim the exact opposite, that "consuming fat has no effect on weight gain". So you end up with the following fact:
Fact: "Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain."
However, because there is evidence both supporting and refuting this fact, it is impossible to quantifiably prove or disprove it with the information currently available. We know that it's a fact as it is either true or false, but we are unable to determine which it is. This results in a very odd circumstance that causes many to be confused about how facts and opinions work. Because we can't prove or disprove this fact, whether the fact is true or false becomes an opinion. This circumstance allows you to have an opinion on the validity of a fact. It does not, however, make the fact in question an opinion.
Opinion: "The statement that Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain is true."
Opinion: "The statement that Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain is false."
So, to recap, statements can be one of the following: true fact, false fact, ambiguous fact, opinion on the validity of a fact, and pure opinion.
Perspectives are still statements, and thus still fall into this categorization scheme. Any perspective that is not a fact is an opinion.
DanteMR1995 wrote: »Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet...is what the OP said. It is slightly different from the general interpretation going on here. Slightly...You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion.Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
With that in mind, the OP's request was that when these perspectives are expressed, if you can add something to it, positive or negative; you could at least try to do it with some respect towards the person expressing their perspective.
Especially when it takes place in this sort of arena, which is specifically designed for that purpose.
I'm aware. I enjoy philosophy, though, and was drawn to reply specifically to that general misinterpretation going on in this thread. I guess I should have said that my earlier post was meant to be slightly off topic. It's not entirely off topic, though, since most perspectives are opinions.
But on the topic of the OP, I've long held the...well...opinion that we should accept that others may not experience things in-game the same way we do. Like the whole PvE vs. PvP debate that's prevalent in MMOs everywhere; it's a pretty stupid divide, as they're both real parts of the game that some people do and others do not enjoy. People enjoy different things, and we really shouldn't disparage that.
So on that point I certainly agree.Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
I don't fully understand when that stated perspective crosses some boundary and becomes 'an opinion'.
It's actually not as complicated as people tend to make it out to be. I'm not trying to patronize you; I just want to be thorough in my explanation.
When you make a statement - when you say anything, and it isn't a question - it is either a fact or an opinion. If it can be quantifiably proven or disproven, it is a fact. Facts can be correct or incorrect. If it cannot be quantifiably proven or disproven, then it is an opinion. Opinions can neither be factually correct or factually incorrect.
True Fact: [while holding a ball] "This is a ball."
False Fact: [while holding a ball] "This is a box."
Opinion: [while holding a ball] "This ball is fun to play with."
Opinion: [while holding a ball] "This ball is no fun at all."
Things get a little more confusing when you have conflicting evidence for a fact. Let's use the effect of dietary fat on weight gain as an example. There are studies that support that "you can gain weight by consuming fat", but there are also studies that claim the exact opposite, that "consuming fat has no effect on weight gain". So you end up with the following fact:
Fact: "Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain."
However, because there is evidence both supporting and refuting this fact, it is impossible to quantifiably prove or disprove it with the information currently available. We know that it's a fact as it is either true or false, but we are unable to determine which it is. This results in a very odd circumstance that causes many to be confused about how facts and opinions work. Because we can't prove or disprove this fact, whether the fact is true or false becomes an opinion. This circumstance allows you to have an opinion on the validity of a fact. It does not, however, make the fact in question an opinion.
Opinion: "The statement that Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain is true."
Opinion: "The statement that Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain is false."
So, to recap, statements can be one of the following: true fact, false fact, ambiguous fact, opinion on the validity of a fact, and pure opinion.
Perspectives are still statements, and thus still fall into this categorization scheme. Any perspective that is not a fact is an opinion.
Hey I agree with this, and thank you for clearly defining fact and opinion for everyone. Though when it comes to consumption of fats, the laws of thermodynamics, specifically conservation of energy can be applied: if you eat less calories than you use, you're gonna lose weight, regardless of fat/lipid, protein, and carbohydrate consumption. (Sorry I'm a bit of a science nerd, I had to.)
DanteMR1995 wrote: »Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet...is what the OP said. It is slightly different from the general interpretation going on here. Slightly...You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion.Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
With that in mind, the OP's request was that when these perspectives are expressed, if you can add something to it, positive or negative; you could at least try to do it with some respect towards the person expressing their perspective.
Especially when it takes place in this sort of arena, which is specifically designed for that purpose.
I'm aware. I enjoy philosophy, though, and was drawn to reply specifically to that general misinterpretation going on in this thread. I guess I should have said that my earlier post was meant to be slightly off topic. It's not entirely off topic, though, since most perspectives are opinions.
But on the topic of the OP, I've long held the...well...opinion that we should accept that others may not experience things in-game the same way we do. Like the whole PvE vs. PvP debate that's prevalent in MMOs everywhere; it's a pretty stupid divide, as they're both real parts of the game that some people do and others do not enjoy. People enjoy different things, and we really shouldn't disparage that.
So on that point I certainly agree.Androconium wrote: »"I'm entitled to my opinion" is often a sort of logical fallacy. While there may be times you can claim this without it being a logical fallacy, this is very rarely the case, especially on the internet.
“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” - Harlan Ellison
I love the above quote. Even if it's not entirely correct - people are entitled to be ignorant if they so wish - it does emphasize that any opinion on facts can be factually wrong. Just because it is an opinion does not preclude it from being incorrect.
Chadak may have come across as harsh depending on the tone you read his above post in, but what he said was very much correct. People all too often confuse the right to hold an opinion as the right to have their opinion respected.
Reality check: you can have whatever opinion you want, but no one is under any obligation to respect it in the least.
That said, people really aught to respect reasonable opinions. All too often, disagreements of opinion turn into slobbering at each other in rage as opposed to, I dunno, rational discourse. Again, especially on the internet.
I don't fully understand when that stated perspective crosses some boundary and becomes 'an opinion'.
It's actually not as complicated as people tend to make it out to be. I'm not trying to patronize you; I just want to be thorough in my explanation.
When you make a statement - when you say anything, and it isn't a question - it is either a fact or an opinion. If it can be quantifiably proven or disproven, it is a fact. Facts can be correct or incorrect. If it cannot be quantifiably proven or disproven, then it is an opinion. Opinions can neither be factually correct or factually incorrect.
True Fact: [while holding a ball] "This is a ball."
False Fact: [while holding a ball] "This is a box."
Opinion: [while holding a ball] "This ball is fun to play with."
Opinion: [while holding a ball] "This ball is no fun at all."
Things get a little more confusing when you have conflicting evidence for a fact. Let's use the effect of dietary fat on weight gain as an example. There are studies that support that "you can gain weight by consuming fat", but there are also studies that claim the exact opposite, that "consuming fat has no effect on weight gain". So you end up with the following fact:
Fact: "Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain."
However, because there is evidence both supporting and refuting this fact, it is impossible to quantifiably prove or disprove it with the information currently available. We know that it's a fact as it is either true or false, but we are unable to determine which it is. This results in a very odd circumstance that causes many to be confused about how facts and opinions work. Because we can't prove or disprove this fact, whether the fact is true or false becomes an opinion. This circumstance allows you to have an opinion on the validity of a fact. It does not, however, make the fact in question an opinion.
Opinion: "The statement that Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain is true."
Opinion: "The statement that Dietary fat consumption causes weight gain is false."
So, to recap, statements can be one of the following: true fact, false fact, ambiguous fact, opinion on the validity of a fact, and pure opinion.
Perspectives are still statements, and thus still fall into this categorization scheme. Any perspective that is not a fact is an opinion.
Hey I agree with this, and thank you for clearly defining fact and opinion for everyone. Though when it comes to consumption of fats, the laws of thermodynamics, specifically conservation of energy can be applied: if you eat less calories than you use, you're gonna lose weight, regardless of fat/lipid, protein, and carbohydrate consumption. (Sorry I'm a bit of a science nerd, I had to.)
Pfft. It's 2019. We're all postmodernists now, so get with the program. We all know silly things like "facts" and "logic" and "science" don't actually mean anything. What's important is that everyone is always right except for anyone who disagrees. If you feel like eating five large cheese pizzas every day makes you thinner, then it makes you thinner and that's all there is to it. Anyone who says otherwise is simply ignorant.
DanteMR1995 wrote: »As the title says. I see a lot of people saying things like what a stupid thread, stop crying, stop whining, and etc. These chapter updates being a lot of changes, people need time to adjust and process (even if that is in the form of a rant on the forums), and honestly the development team is looking for feedback from the playerbase. These types of threads and discussions are healthy. You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion. But maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think?
Opinions are not of equal value. Some are ridiculous, foolish and make everyone that much dumber for having been exposed to them. Failure to ridicule the ridiculous encourages the ridiculous and gives ridiculous people the tragically mistaken impression that their ridiculous opinions are worth as much as everyone else's no matter what.
A well thought out opinion expressed intelligently deserves credit for at least the effort involved. An emotionally vomitous or otherwise unhinged rant is not deserving of much attention or respect.
TL;DR : stupid people say stupid things and they don't deserve respect for talking.
DanteMR1995 wrote: »As the title says. I see a lot of people saying things like what a stupid thread, stop crying, stop whining, and etc. These chapter updates being a lot of changes, people need time to adjust and process (even if that is in the form of a rant on the forums), and honestly the development team is looking for feedback from the playerbase. These types of threads and discussions are healthy. You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion. But maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think?
Opinions are not of equal value. Some are ridiculous, foolish and make everyone that much dumber for having been exposed to them. Failure to ridicule the ridiculous encourages the ridiculous and gives ridiculous people the tragically mistaken impression that their ridiculous opinions are worth as much as everyone else's no matter what.
A well thought out opinion expressed intelligently deserves credit for at least the effort involved. An emotionally vomitous or otherwise unhinged rant is not deserving of much attention or respect.
TL;DR : stupid people say stupid things and they don't deserve respect for talking.
DanteMR1995 wrote: »As the title says. I see a lot of people saying things like what a stupid thread, stop crying, stop whining, and etc. These chapter updates being a lot of changes, people need time to adjust and process (even if that is in the form of a rant on the forums), and honestly the development team is looking for feedback from the playerbase. These types of threads and discussions are healthy. You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion. But maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think?
VaranisArano wrote: »Respectfully pointing out the problems with an argument in great detail is
A. Much less likely to result in moderator action
B. Much more likely to result in the Devs thinking you know what you are talking about compared to the other guy
Never underestimate the power of consistent, well-stated arguments in favor of a game change - thats more or less why we got Cyrodiil faction locks back.
Its very important to disagree with opinions in a logical, coherent manner if you actually want to have an impact on the silent audience od the developers. It probably won't convince the OP of whatever thread, but hey, the insults and "L2Play" probably werent convincing either, so its worth a shot.
DanteMR1995 wrote: »
Please be considerate of what you say, blatantly throwing out insults at people with whom you disagree is no way to carry out a discussion. This only serves to start conflict and arguments.
Ahh, right. We're pretending to be sophisticated monkeys today.
Right then. I'll put on my pretending-to-care-deeply face and tell you whatever it is you want to hear.
And you'll love me for it.
DanteMR1995 wrote: »As the title says. I see a lot of people saying things like what a stupid thread, stop crying, stop whining, and etc. These chapter updates being a lot of changes, people need time to adjust and process (even if that is in the form of a rant on the forums), and honestly the development team is looking for feedback from the playerbase. These types of threads and discussions are healthy. You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion. But maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think?
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@Androconium
The expression "World" is a common perspective in both within philosophy, sociology and psychology to describe the point of view from an individual stand point to how this person experience its own being or existence from its own position and the surrounding. That surrounding do also include other beings like people and animals among other. This kind of terminology do also fit with posters intention. "Country" would not fit to replace "World" as in this usage to point out a change in World view (meaning that there is something in how we as human being see our world and act on it).
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From reading about facts vs opinion and the way it is described I just to add that it is even within philosophy not as clear distinction as you make it sound.
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Is"likes" in the form of "Insightful", "Agree" or "Awesome" really good tools for communication or even badges for posting in a certain way? Do those forum tools actually control in which direction a certain statement will take form and what kind of intention and interpretation that is being made on ESO forum?
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I beg to differ
DanteMR1995 wrote: »As the title says. I see a lot of people saying things like what a stupid thread, stop crying, stop whining, and etc. These chapter updates being a lot of changes, people need time to adjust and process (even if that is in the form of a rant on the forums), and honestly the development team is looking for feedback from the playerbase. These types of threads and discussions are healthy. You may not agree with someone's perspective, but you could at least respect their right to have an opinion. But maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think?