LiquidPony wrote: »Is today like Bad Theorycrafting Day or something? A new wonderful holiday I didn't know about?
I'm just going to copypasta my response from another thread, but for real y'all, do some in-depth testing, think about your results, think about how they might extrapolate with group buffs, crunch the numbers, and double-check your work. Don't ping a bunch of ZOS employees and class reps and create a big commotion unless you've done all that.
First, take off your Shock enchant. Minor Vulnerability is probably skewing your tests.
Second, this all depends on your starting Weapon Damage and Crit Damage modifier values.
Let me demonstrate.
Setup:
5 x Perfect Rele, 5 x Advancing Yokeda, 2 x Velidreth. All Divines. 1 x Infused, 2 x Bloodthirsty. Nirn mainhand, Infused offhand. Lover Mundus. All Weapon Damage glyphs. Poison mainhand, Absorb Stam offhand, Infused Berserker Maelstrom bow.
CP: 66 Precise Strikes, 64 Mighty, 44 Thaum, 21 Piercing, 72 Master-at-Arms, 3 Physical Weapon Expert
These are crit hit values for light attacks.
Orc Warden
Unbuffed: 6710
Buffed with Major Brutality: 7323
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 7749
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 8412
Khajiit Warden
Unbuffed: 6629
Buffed with Major Brutality: 7222
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 7619
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 8317
Orc Sorc
Unbuffed: 7420
Buffed with Major Brutality: 8030
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8525
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9272
Khajiit Sorc
Unbuffed: 7346
Buffed with Major Brutality: 7892
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8331
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9115
Now, I'll put on Veiled Heritance instead of Advancing Yokeda and proc it:
Orc Sorc
Veiled Heritance: 7839
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality: 8468
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8966
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9637
Khajiit Sorc
Veiled Heritance: 7876
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality: 8499
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8971
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9691
Note that in the final set of tests, the Khajiit does more damage. You need to have sufficiently high Weapon Damage to start with. This will become even more apparent if Minor Brutality is provided. Also keep in mind that the Khajiit crit bonus will buff enchant procs, whereas the Orc/Dunmer weapon damage bonus will not, so that narrows the actual DPS gap in the prior test cases.
The last two sentences alone should be enough to shut up the whiners. Khajiit is the only races that can buff enchant procs, which makes them on par with others easily. Many people just dont factor in everything when they test...
LiquidPony wrote: »Is today like Bad Theorycrafting Day or something? A new wonderful holiday I didn't know about?
I'm just going to copypasta my response from another thread, but for real y'all, do some in-depth testing, think about your results, think about how they might extrapolate with group buffs, crunch the numbers, and double-check your work. Don't ping a bunch of ZOS employees and class reps and create a big commotion unless you've done all that.
First, take off your Shock enchant. Minor Vulnerability is probably skewing your tests.
Second, this all depends on your starting Weapon Damage and Crit Damage modifier values.
Let me demonstrate.
Setup:
5 x Perfect Rele, 5 x Advancing Yokeda, 2 x Velidreth. All Divines. 1 x Infused, 2 x Bloodthirsty. Nirn mainhand, Infused offhand. Lover Mundus. All Weapon Damage glyphs. Poison mainhand, Absorb Stam offhand, Infused Berserker Maelstrom bow.
CP: 66 Precise Strikes, 64 Mighty, 44 Thaum, 21 Piercing, 72 Master-at-Arms, 3 Physical Weapon Expert
These are crit hit values for light attacks.
Orc Warden
Unbuffed: 6710
Buffed with Major Brutality: 7323
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 7749
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 8412
Khajiit Warden
Unbuffed: 6629
Buffed with Major Brutality: 7222
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 7619
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 8317
Orc Sorc
Unbuffed: 7420
Buffed with Major Brutality: 8030
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8525
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9272
Khajiit Sorc
Unbuffed: 7346
Buffed with Major Brutality: 7892
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8331
Buffed with Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9115
Now, I'll put on Veiled Heritance instead of Advancing Yokeda and proc it:
Orc Sorc
Veiled Heritance: 7839
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality: 8468
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8966
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9637
Khajiit Sorc
Veiled Heritance: 7876
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality: 8499
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force: 8971
Veiled Heritance & Major Brutality & Minor Force & Berserker: 9691
Note that in the final set of tests, the Khajiit does more damage. You need to have sufficiently high Weapon Damage to start with. This will become even more apparent if Minor Brutality is provided. Also keep in mind that the Khajiit crit bonus will buff enchant procs, whereas the Orc/Dunmer weapon damage bonus will not, so that narrows the actual DPS gap in the prior test cases.