I’m not aggressive I’m simply annoyed at the attempts to farm Agrees or something because these posts have no substance. Obviously “returns the lowest maximum resource” is never going to return mag on a mag build. There’s nothing to discuss about it, that’s simply how it works.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
There are tonnes of threads talking about it, just under incorrect/hidden titles. Like such hits as "[There is almost no difference between Dunmer and Altmer]" or "[Can ZOS explain why Altmer is the lowest DPS]" and many more.
If they isnt bad, answer on 1 question why should I choose altmer over breton on magicka builds? (we talking only about passives, not appearance)
1. both have 2k magicka and on both cp will have affect
2. altmer will get stamina 625 WHEN HE WILL USE CLASS ABILITY, when breton have just 100 magicka regen (altmer on live have 45)
3. Breton have 7% magicka reduction, when altmer have 0
4. Altmer have 258 spell dmg but breton with 7% have enough sustain to put berserk on back bar, altmer can do the same thing but he will lose much more sustain, breton will not.
5. 5% reduction dmg when WE USING CHANNELING ABILITES from altmer (magplar in both scenario and pvp sorc so the rest classes have 0 beneftis from it) vs 2,3k spell resist and 4,6k when breton will get some element on self, it will proc in both scenario
So why should I choose altmer? For 1% more xp?
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
There are tonnes of threads talking about it, just under incorrect/hidden titles. Like such hits as "[There is almost no difference between Dunmer and Altmer]" or "[Can ZOS explain why Altmer is the lowest DPS]" and many more.
So to ask my question again? Does Altmer return magicka most of the time, because the wording is tricking.
If they isnt bad, answer on 1 question why should I choose altmer over breton on magicka builds? (we talking only about passives, not appearance)
1. both have 2k magicka and on both cp will have affect
2. altmer will get stamina 625 WHEN HE WILL USE CLASS ABILITY, when breton have just 100 magicka regen (altmer on live have 45)
3. Breton have 7% magicka reduction, when altmer have 0
4. Altmer have 258 spell dmg but breton with 7% have enough sustain to put berserk on back bar, altmer can do the same thing but he will lose much more sustain, breton will not.
5. 5% reduction dmg when WE USING CHANNELING ABILITES from altmer (magplar in both scenario and pvp sorc so the rest classes have 0 beneftis from it) vs 2,3k spell resist and 4,6k when breton will get some element on self, it will proc in both scenario
So why should I choose altmer? For 1% more xp?
I’m not aggressive I’m simply annoyed at the attempts to farm Agrees or something because these posts have no substance. Obviously “returns the lowest maximum resource” is never going to return mag on a mag build. There’s nothing to discuss about it, that’s simply how it works.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
There are tonnes of threads talking about it, just under incorrect/hidden titles. Like such hits as "[There is almost no difference between Dunmer and Altmer]" or "[Can ZOS explain why Altmer is the lowest DPS]" and many more.
So to ask my question again? Does Altmer return magicka most of the time, because the wording is tricking.
I’m not aggressive I’m simply annoyed at the attempts to farm Agrees or something because these posts have no substance. Obviously “returns the lowest maximum resource” is never going to return mag on a mag build. There’s nothing to discuss about it, that’s simply how it works.
If it is is a % based passive (when it returns the resource if it is less than the other), then what @Tasear says is right. Any time you use magicka while not using stam, you will be under the 100% landmark, so you will be given back magicka
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
There are tonnes of threads talking about it, just under incorrect/hidden titles. Like such hits as "[There is almost no difference between Dunmer and Altmer]" or "[Can ZOS explain why Altmer is the lowest DPS]" and many more.
So to ask my question again? Does Altmer return magicka most of the time, because the wording is tricking.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
There are tonnes of threads talking about it, just under incorrect/hidden titles. Like such hits as "[There is almost no difference between Dunmer and Altmer]" or "[Can ZOS explain why Altmer is the lowest DPS]" and many more.
So to ask my question again? Does Altmer return magicka most of the time, because the wording is tricking.
The wording is not tricky...
It will return the lowest maximum resource. In a mag build with 30k-40k mag, it will always return stamina. Your magicka could be depleted and it will still restore stamina. It is not “lowest current resource”, which would still return stam until mag dropped below 10k, or even lower in some build
The channeling protection I think is a hidden gem, especially for beam spamming during executes, soul assault in pvp, a few other niche scenerios. Stam return will benefit block, bash, break free and tanking. My magplar and magden will likely remain High Elves, only my magdk Ill likely change to Breton and that has more to do with the class still being unsustainable.
codestripper wrote: »
I’m not aggressive I’m simply annoyed at the attempts to farm Agrees or something because these posts have no substance. Obviously “returns the lowest maximum resource” is never going to return mag on a mag build. There’s nothing to discuss about it, that’s simply how it works.
If it is is a % based passive (when it returns the resource if it is less than the other), then what @Tasear says is right. Any time you use magicka while not using stam, you will be under the 100% landmark, so you will be given back magicka
Well this is on the PTS right now, why doesn't someone go check? I'm at work so "NOT IT!"
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
There are tonnes of threads talking about it, just under incorrect/hidden titles. Like such hits as "[There is almost no difference between Dunmer and Altmer]" or "[Can ZOS explain why Altmer is the lowest DPS]" and many more.
So to ask my question again? Does Altmer return magicka most of the time, because the wording is tricking.
No. I did think this may be the case first time I read it, but its talking about "maximum" so it will always be your offstat unless you have so much max offstat that buffs make you swap what your highest maximum is. I mean... I can potentially see some people trying to pile everything into damage as a meme to get the mag regen. lol.
The channeling protection I think is a hidden gem, especially for beam spamming during executes, soul assault in pvp, a few other niche scenerios. Stam return will benefit block, bash, break free and tanking. My magplar and magden will likely remain High Elves, only my magdk Ill likely change to Breton and that has more to do with the class still being unsustainable.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
There are tonnes of threads talking about it, just under incorrect/hidden titles. Like such hits as "[There is almost no difference between Dunmer and Altmer]" or "[Can ZOS explain why Altmer is the lowest DPS]" and many more.
So to ask my question again? Does Altmer return magicka most of the time, because the wording is tricking.
No. I did think this may be the case first time I read it, but its talking about "maximum" so it will always be your offstat unless you have so much max offstat that buffs make you swap what your highest maximum is. I mean... I can potentially see some people trying to pile everything into damage as a meme to get the mag regen. lol.
Notice it says "lowest" not "smallest". Maybe I'm wrong, but I tend to think it is a % based passive.
Stam 10000/10000 = 100%
Mag 20000/40000= 50%
Then the passive should return magicka
Enough of this non-sense here
A clear statement now: Spell recharge restores your lowest maximum ressource. Not which ressource is currently the lowest, % wise. When I have 40k max magicka and am currently at 30k magicka, I will still restore stamina, because my 10k max stamina is the lowest maximum ressource
I have tested it and there is no doubt and no room for speculation. This passive is bad, stupid, foolish and lore breaking.
Enough of this non-sense here
A clear statement now: Spell recharge restores your lowest maximum ressource. Not which ressource is currently the lowest, % wise. When I have 40k max magicka and am currently at 30k magicka, I will still restore stamina, because my 10k max stamina is the lowest maximum ressource
I have tested it and there is no doubt and no room for speculation. This passive is bad, stupid, foolish and lore breaking.
Enough of this non-sense here
A clear statement now: Spell recharge restores your lowest maximum ressource. Not which ressource is currently the lowest, % wise. When I have 40k max magicka and am currently at 30k magicka, I will still restore stamina, because my 10k max stamina is the lowest maximum ressource
I have tested it and there is no doubt and no room for speculation. This passive is bad, stupid, foolish and lore breaking.
codestripper wrote: »Enough of this non-sense here
A clear statement now: Spell recharge restores your lowest maximum ressource. Not which ressource is currently the lowest, % wise. When I have 40k max magicka and am currently at 30k magicka, I will still restore stamina, because my 10k max stamina is the lowest maximum ressource
I have tested it and there is no doubt and no room for speculation. This passive is bad, stupid, foolish and lore breaking.
ahh Dracane, always coming in with the hard facts.
WikiMeister wrote: »If someone here can upload a combat metric that shows that Spell Recharge restores zilch to your main resource in need of replenishment (esp. Magicka) that'd be final nail to the proverbial coffin.
Literally put on an ice staff, and spam any shield spell (I.e Harness Magicka) while blocking to demonstrate that Altmer receive 0 recovery to offset the drain.
Enough of this non-sense here
A clear statement now: Spell recharge restores your lowest maximum ressource. Not which ressource is currently the lowest, % wise. When I have 40k max magicka and am currently at 30k magicka, I will still restore stamina, because my 10k max stamina is the lowest maximum ressource
I have tested it and there is no doubt and no room for speculation. This passive is bad, stupid, foolish and lore breaking.
WikiMeister wrote: »Now there is irrefutable evidence that Spell Recharge is useless for a Stam OR Mag damage dealing Altmer - because as demonstrated in the metrics, and aforementioned video, it restores resources to the pool which currently does not need the help.
I'm only stating the obvious at this point. All we can really do now is wait for ZOS to fix it.