validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
U should start reading my all sentences, actually bretons need only to put berserk with 452 spell dmg with almost 100% uptime on back bar to beat altmers and dunmers. Why u talk about things which u dont even know?
Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Altmer with dunmer dont have any chance with bretons and khajiits, when khajiit just burn dummy, and breton have infinity sustain + they just put bersek on backbar and outdps 3rd passiv altmer and dunmer. Orc have access to dmg weapon, 2k stam, health sustain, MS, and bonus health to using gold food.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
U should start reading my all sentences, actually bretons need only to put berserk with 452 spell dmg with almost 100% uptime on back bar to beat altmers and dunmers. Why u talk about things which u dont even know?
And when an Altmer does the same thing, guess what; bretons are still exactly 258 damage behind.
You dont NEED sustain to do top DPS. Dunmer has been top DD pick for years now with zero sustain.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
U should start reading my all sentences, actually bretons need only to put berserk with 452 spell dmg with almost 100% uptime on back bar to beat altmers and dunmers. Why u talk about things which u dont even know?
And when an Altmer does the same thing, guess what; bretons are still exactly 258 damage behind.
You dont NEED sustain to do top DPS. Dunmer has been top DD pick for years now with zero sustain.
Bretons = infinity sustain, with berserker on back bar I still had better sustain than altmer or dunmer. These races have problem with sustain if u are not templar/nb even altmer on live have same issue. So im talking with casuals who just came to forum for trolling or people who tested races?
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
U should start reading my all sentences, actually bretons need only to put berserk with 452 spell dmg with almost 100% uptime on back bar to beat altmers and dunmers. Why u talk about things which u dont even know?
And when an Altmer does the same thing, guess what; bretons are still exactly 258 damage behind.
You dont NEED sustain to do top DPS. Dunmer has been top DD pick for years now with zero sustain.
Bretons = infinity sustain, with berserker on back bar I still had better sustain than altmer or dunmer. These races have problem with sustain if u are not templar/nb even altmer on live have same issue. So im talking with casuals who just came to forum for trolling or people who tested races?
Ok. Let me say it again.
You. Do not need. Any sustain. To do top DPS.
Altmers BIS is a zerk on offbar. The sims have been done and published. Altmer do more damage. You are wrong. Please understand and get over this weird obsession you have where you think Altmer cant just zerk offbar like everyone else for some reason.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
U should start reading my all sentences, actually bretons need only to put berserk with 452 spell dmg with almost 100% uptime on back bar to beat altmers and dunmers. Why u talk about things which u dont even know?
And when an Altmer does the same thing, guess what; bretons are still exactly 258 damage behind.
You dont NEED sustain to do top DPS. Dunmer has been top DD pick for years now with zero sustain.
clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Altmer with dunmer dont have any chance with bretons and khajiits, when khajiit just burn dummy, and breton have infinity sustain + they just put bersek on backbar and outdps 3rd passiv altmer and dunmer. Orc have access to dmg weapon, 2k stam, health sustain, MS, and bonus health to using gold food.
Wrong information dear, please check again forum or try yourself.
Altmers parses are good at the moment.
LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
Oh whatever you win with khajiit, IDC
Point is there's still 0 reason to pick a highelf or woodelf over anything else that's what I'm pissed about. Couldn't care less about khajiit
Lord_Dexter wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Altmer with dunmer dont have any chance with bretons and khajiits, when khajiit just burn dummy, and breton have infinity sustain + they just put bersek on backbar and outdps 3rd passiv altmer and dunmer. Orc have access to dmg weapon, 2k stam, health sustain, MS, and bonus health to using gold food.
Wrong information dear, please check again forum or try yourself.
Altmers parses are good at the moment.
This does not surprises me at all...Cat is 10% crit now woooot
luen79rwb17_ESO wrote: »
I'm really happy with the Imperial Red Diamond change. A huge step forward, now all they need is a magicka bonus honestly.
Lord_Dexter wrote: »Roll Dodge passive is amazing for PVP and they make now amazing speed builds!
LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
Oh whatever you win with khajiit, IDC
Point is there's still 0 reason to pick a highelf or woodelf over anything else that's what I'm pissed about. Couldn't care less about khajiit
Lord_Dexter wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
Oh whatever you win with khajiit, IDC
Point is there's still 0 reason to pick a highelf or woodelf over anything else that's what I'm pissed about. Couldn't care less about khajiit
You should see Wood Elf sustain, its amazing for PVE and PVP.
They are still one of best Stam DPS race
Roll Dodge passive is amazing for PVP and they make now amazing speed builds!
Khajiit will just pick up sorrow instead of strategist and propably they are become a much bigger monster dps than they were.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Khajiit will just pick up sorrow instead of strategist and propably they are become a much bigger monster dps than they were.
People just dont know right now. For sure they can now do some mad stacking of crit damage, but its only 10% more than anyone could do before, and at the cost of 8% chance.
Really got to wait on some testing on this one.
LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
Oh whatever you win with khajiit, IDC
Point is there's still 0 reason to pick a highelf or woodelf over anything else that's what I'm pissed about. Couldn't care less about khajiit
Or ratter other got an larger buff because of cp, Khajiit buff is half of other DD races.validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »
I dont think so, If u saw tests parses, Bretons with Khajiits dominates as Magicka races on parses on each pts patch. Orcs with Redguard had the same dps before buff changes for Orcs. Dont tell me I spread wrong information when you doing this at each post with "dont nerf orcs".
Breton is NOT top DD by a long shot. 258 wep damage is a HUGE loss if you're trying to max out damage. The sustain is nice, but in a propper PVE environment you only need it if you want to heal or maybe tank.
Khajiits have just "received" a major nerf to Magic damage in the CP change.
Calm down buddy.
In a way it fits as Khajiit did not magic than stamina damage relative and most Khajiit is Stamina.LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
validifyedneb18_ESO wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
Oh whatever you win with khajiit, IDC
Point is there's still 0 reason to pick a highelf or woodelf over anything else that's what I'm pissed about. Couldn't care less about khajiit
Why is there no reason to pick Altmer, if you really care about getting every tiny bit of DPS? They're still the BIS magDD race...
Lord_Dexter wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
Oh whatever you win with khajiit, IDC
Point is there's still 0 reason to pick a highelf or woodelf over anything else that's what I'm pissed about. Couldn't care less about khajiit
You should see Wood Elf sustain, its amazing for PVE and PVP.
They are still one of best Stam DPS race
Roll Dodge passive is amazing for PVP and they make now amazing speed builds!
They get 1 applicable bonus to pve and orcs 12% reduced cost is arguably just as good and they get damage
And again in PvP, orc has the same specs buff not tied to anything and damage and 12% reduced cost and I'm sure a ton of other things
Redguard is better to
MartiniDaniels wrote: »ZOS just ruined my 100% crit chance build ><
Why you need to ruin everything every patch.
Imperial looks good tho.
/o
LiquidPony wrote: »Lord_Dexter wrote: »LiquidPony wrote: »clocksstoppe wrote: »Why did they dumpster khajiit
They didn't, it's even better than before. It's now crit damage done which is way more helpful than the added crit chance. You can already get high spell it weapon crit, especially on NB which is were khajiit would have been focused. Now they basically get a free crit damage Mindy's stone...
while highelf and woodelf are basically useless. With darkelf being much better than highelf and Breton and khajiit running laps around them both.. I don't think I need to get in to why woodelf is bad but I don't care what you to to stealth detection tied to rolldodging it's still useless and whoa hoo last patch they got 1500 physical and spell pen, one of which is never going to help anyone
Totally wrong.
Just stop.
Crunch the numbers and do some tests before spamming the ignorant overreactions to patch notes.
It is a *slight* buff to builds with high crit chance and a *slight* nerf to builds with low crit chance. In other words, in broad strokes, it buffs Khajiit stam DPS (particularly stamblades and stamplars) and it nerfs Khajiit magicka DPS.
Oh whatever you win with khajiit, IDC
Point is there's still 0 reason to pick a highelf or woodelf over anything else that's what I'm pissed about. Couldn't care less about khajiit
You should see Wood Elf sustain, its amazing for PVE and PVP.
They are still one of best Stam DPS race
Roll Dodge passive is amazing for PVP and they make now amazing speed builds!
They get 1 applicable bonus to pve and orcs 12% reduced cost is arguably just as good and they get damage
And again in PvP, orc has the same specs buff not tied to anything and damage and 12% reduced cost and I'm sure a ton of other things
Redguard is better to
lol you don't even know what the racial bonuses are. What does the Orc "12% reduced cost" have to do with PvE?
Redguard is only better for builds that use a lot of weapon abilities. If you use mostly class skills (like on a typical stamplar or stamblade or stamden), Bosmer regen is more valuable.