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Werewolf DPS in PVE, welcomed or kicked?

coop500
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How do you all feel about werewolf DPSes in dungeons and trails? Is it calling for a kick from you? Do you feel like you'd be better with a non-werewolf DPS?
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Werewolf DPS in PVE, welcomed or kicked? 106 votes

Yes, werewolf is inferior for PVE DPS
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Joker99MrCray78RandomchaosTechnoDreamVisionkylewwefanDPShiroItzmichiiiYukiXiDiabolismiXBlackStormXPumicide 11 votes
If their build is good it's fine
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Nah I welcome werewolf DPS!
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Other
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  • thedude33
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    The only thing calling for a kick from me, is someone suggesting that kicking people out of a group is actually a good thing.
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  • Tholian1
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    I have been running my WW in dungeons from time to time, and the only issue I have is that there is almost always someone in the group that holds things up until the timer runs out. Otherwise, it is fun to use.

    I don’t like to use my WW in most trials, because it limits me to melee only and I like to have my full rotation when I do them.

    I wouldn’t kick someone for it.
    Edited by Tholian1 on January 19, 2019 10:51PM
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Nah I welcome werewolf DPS!
    Furry brothers are welcome! Of course if they know content, and they know when they could transfrom for higher melee dps and when it's better to sit on bow/melee and use other ult.
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    I just love when I have the trash all herded up, and a WW comes in and fears them in 70 different directions.

    Generally, I would say no on Vet and it doesn’t matter on Normal.
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  • FlyingSwan
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    Nah I welcome werewolf DPS!
    I do 52k DPS in WW form now I have built for it, so usually pulling most of the group DPS in four man vet content. But as the other poster says, often someone ends up standing about fiddling with their inventory, so if I don't just steam into the next set of mobs the timer will transform me back to human. But in WW you are so hardy you can take on pretty much all vet content on your own, apart from the newer vet DLC stuff. I've ended up soloing many vet bosses after the rest of the team have died.

    Trials wise, it can work well but when not in WW form DPS is down if you have built specifically for WW, so you need to think about when you transform. But it can work really well when leaping between boss locations in vCR, for example. Plus, it is fun :)

    But as long as you don't fear the mobs but do stick to the basic skills, a properly built WW in pretty much all content is an asset IMO.
    Edited by FlyingSwan on January 19, 2019 11:12PM
  • karekiz
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    Nah I welcome werewolf DPS!
    I would MUCH rather have a casual player who does only light attacks or doesn't understand roations/skills in a full WW setup rather than <Insert build here>
  • essi2
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    If their build is good it's fine
    WW tanks who transform on the otherhand...
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  • AlienatedGoat
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    I don't judge DPS based on build, WW or otherwise.

    And I won't even really care about DPS from PUGs unless I'm in a vet DLC dungeon.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Nah I welcome werewolf DPS!
    I may say from my experience that WW ult on ice staff backbar is very good alternative to being vampire for a tank. First - you get increased stam regen when on ice bar, second if team is dead and boss have only 100-200k hp you have chance to finish it off in WW form even if you are full tank with 2k dps when not transformed, and third - not obvious - when you transform with all team dead, your small wolves often will taunt boss on themselves so you will have some time to rise comrades without being interrupted. This works even in dlc vets.
  • jircris11
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    If their build is good it's fine
    As a ww dps I tend to out dps any other and at times out tank. It's all about the build and skill of said person
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  • DocFrost72
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    If their build is good it's fine
    Hands down the easiest way to get vet dungeon ready dps that I know of. Maybe there are others too, but typically you can't butcher

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  • phileunderx2
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    As long as they are not the tank or healer I'm ok with it.
  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    I hate Werewolves.
  • SiAScORCH
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    If they know how to properly use their ww than it's fine. You don't want to fear anything. On the main bosses all you want to do is light attack, light attack and keep on light attacking. You can cast hircine rage for dmg bonus, but that's it. For trash fights I typically use claws of life.
  • LeagueTroll
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    If their build is good it's fine
    thedude33 wrote: »
    The only thing calling for a kick from me, is someone suggesting that kicking people out of a group is actually a good thing.

    Why don’t you try play a tank and specificly get two low dmg dd que up vet falkreath keep? Ofc it’s a good thing, all real tank deserve real dd, not the ones do as much dps as a healer.
  • SiAScORCH
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    thedude33 wrote: »
    The only thing calling for a kick from me, is someone suggesting that kicking people out of a group is actually a good thing.

    Why don’t you try play a tank and specificly get two low dmg dd que up vet falkreath keep? Ofc it’s a good thing, all real tank deserve real dd, not the ones do as much dps as a healer.

    If I'm doing any role and I get a low dps, I vote kick, if it doesn't pass then I leave but normally I'm with two other people so we have the winning numbers. I don't do it to be rude, but if they can't bother to research a build, then why do I have to suffer through longer content especially like CoA2 or something.
  • GraphicArtistYT
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    Instant vote to kick
  • SiAScORCH
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    Instant vote to kick

    LOL. I'm guessing you pull like 10k dps.
  • robpr
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    Isn't that CR Voltaic Overload targeted at WW can't be disabled?
    Otherwise it's fine.
  • mocap
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    WW is ok till your timer runs out... right infront of next boss ) Then you are just a pff dd.
  • Qbiken
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    robpr wrote: »
    Isn't that CR Voltaic Overload targeted at WW can't be disabled?
    Otherwise it's fine.

    WW never gets the effect in the first place :)
  • ccfeeling
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    If their build is good it's fine
    WW is really OK :)

    Completed my usual trials HM with it , VHRC , VAA and VSO , I thought VSO was tough , but it was not lol ...
  • WuffyCerulei
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    If their build is good it's fine
    Werewolves can pull good dps, but they really need some decent gear. You don't need the Bloodmoon/Relequen's/Kena combo. Gear like VO, Hunding's, and Automaton's do just fine.

    Also don't fear the adds if you're unfamiliar with the tank. When I'm on my WW, I only fear them to kind play around with the tank, BUT only because they're my friend.
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  • Latios
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    If their build is good it's fine
    When you are talking about a progression group where the requirements were posted beforehand, a good build is needed.

    For any other kind of content, like non-score runs and vet dungeons, of course they are welcome, regardless of build.
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  • Tasear
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    Nah I welcome werewolf DPS!
    20k DPS to 70k dps vs 5 k normal pug DPS... yeah I will take fluffy.
  • Sleep
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    if they are dealing decent damage it's fine if not i'll quit
  • kylewwefan
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    Yes, werewolf is inferior for PVE DPS
    My friend has crazy high single target DPS on WW. But absolutely zero AOE. Obviously I’m not gonna kick, but they’re really not so great for dungeons with loads of ads.
  • Itzmichi
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    Yes, werewolf is inferior for PVE DPS
    I would never group up with a jumping around werewolf in the first place, for me personally it's something for either role play or bgs.

    So basically no kick as I wouldn't invite a werewolf in the first place, sorry.
    Here, have a chill pill 💊!
  • ATomiX96
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    depends on what content you are doing.
    In normal trials and nondlc dungeons I highly doubt anyone would question why someone is a WW in there, but everything beyond that I would avoid WWs.
  • Rexy18
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    Nah I welcome werewolf DPS!
    I completed MoL hardmode as WW with one other WW in the group, they're perfectly viable and welcome for most content
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