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Sorc question!! :D

JobooAGS
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If you can buff sorc, what would you do?

Sorc question!! :D 57 votes

Return frag stun
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WuffyCeruleiEdziuSibeniceschwarzman1OhhgrizyyySkeough11pzschrekGronkKatlefiya 9 votes
Buff shields
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phairdonSteelshivsiddiqueBananaEnemorianageneralmyrickrumple9karekizBretonMageAnanorielvingarmo 11 votes
Buff sustain (indicate passives or dark deal/conversion)
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Caligamy_ESOkimaerilMinalanVaranaWaffennachtrafaelcsmaiaSilverIce58kirstlou79NoszetDemraHappyTheCamper 11 votes
Buff bolt escape (indicate reverting cost increase or another bolt escape buff)
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CraziuxElusiinRaptorRodeoGodAedrion 4 votes
Surge healing buff (heal based on crit damage)
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JitterbugToRelaxElwendryllMarcoPolo184DivineFirstYOLO 5 votes
Other
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Cireousotis67Taseareso_nyaArtim_XThorstienncolossalvoidsmoses1763Crixus8000 9 votes
I'm a dk...hmm.... there is something I need to go fosslize leap, and whip at, brb
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robpr 1 vote
I'm a templar, well I cant go anywhere so Ill just stay here (wtb mobility other than vamp)
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Ash_In_My_SujammaMyNameIsElias 2 votes
I'm a warden, let me plant a forest and slow everyone else cuz ice magic
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agasaagasai 1 vote
I'm a nb what am doing here? (cloaks away and hides)
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Shadow-FightersusmitdsoXI_Viper_IXoYuffie91 4 votes
  • ToRelax
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    Surge healing buff (heal based on crit damage)
    Healing based on the crit damage dealt, without cooldown.
    DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
    The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...

    Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU
  • Craziux
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    Buff bolt escape (indicate reverting cost increase or another bolt escape buff)
    Bolt Escape perhaps, or a longer lasting shield, for example 10 seconds.

    If they Buff healing based on Crit-Damage, they will most likely Nerf the Base-Heal a bit as well after following ZOS's recent decisions and their decisions from the past.
    [Outfits] Hide More Armor Slots?
    Cast your vote and make it happen!


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    Valp Stud - DK Tank
    Bad Argonian - Temp Heal

    DC:
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    EP:
    Craziux - PvP NB
  • Elwendryll
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    Surge healing buff (heal based on crit damage)
    Actually I don't see any stamina Ultimate or stamina spammable in your propositions...
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  • Thorstienn
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    Massively reduce light attack scaling, and increase concussion uptime, allowing heavy attack/shock staff to shine on sorce again.
  • oXI_Viper_IXo
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    I'm a nb what am doing here? (cloaks away and hides)
    Nerf Sorc!
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  • eso_nya
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    I'd like to play stamsorc, but i also like to play my char and not some weird transparent blue blob xD
  • ToRelax
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    Surge healing buff (heal based on crit damage)
    Craziux wrote: »
    Bolt Escape perhaps, or a longer lasting shield, for example 10 seconds.

    If they Buff healing based on Crit-Damage, they will most likely Nerf the Base-Heal a bit as well after following ZOS's recent decisions and their decisions from the past.

    I mean heal for a percentage of crit damage like it did in 2014. It was changed when Impenetrable no longer stopped enemies from critting to you at all. I made a thread at the time on how to balance it so one could continue to rely on Surge as a heal instead of shieldstacking, and it's still my #1 wish for Sorc, ahead of keeping the momentum after Bolt Escape and removing the stacking cost.
    DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
    The Covenant is broken. The Enemy has won...

    Elo'dryel - Sorc - AR 50 - Hopesfire - EP EU
  • Shadow-Fighter
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    I'm a nb what am doing here? (cloaks away and hides)
    /lurk
    Natch Potes is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get
  • Aedrion
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    Buff bolt escape (indicate reverting cost increase or another bolt escape buff)
    I'd like Bolt Escape to follow terrain instead of moving directly forward and instantly - without first stopping the sorc - flash the sorc forward a short distance in 1 second. During this, all attacks and projectiles are dodged.

    Would not only fix a clunky skill that often gets us killed if we're on a slope but also add some actual damage mitigation to it.
  • Elusiin
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    Buff bolt escape (indicate reverting cost increase or another bolt escape buff)
    If the Ball of Lightning morph ACTUALLY intercepted projectiles aimed at you, it would be a HUGE BUFF.
  • karekiz
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    Buff shields
    Shields lasting longer prolly.

    I wouldn't mind a dark deal buff too.
  • Artim_X
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    I would turn the bound armor skill into a passive that only requires a sorc skill slotted (get max resources automatically regardless of playstyle, get minor ward/minor resolve, and get stronger light attacks. Whichever resource is highest is buffed mag, stam, or health). When you block you get glowing eyes/aura and your block mitigation increases (similar to the psijic passive concentrated barrier).

    Replace the bound armor skill with bound weapon that transforms your weapons into ones that looks conjured (maintains the same style just looks more magical). The skill has both a mag/stam morph, grants minor berserk, and heavy/light attacks can trigger a secondary affect that needs to be activated. Basically this would be a sorc version of grim focus.
    (AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanist
    Electric-Burn/Stun
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    • Damage Dealing Build.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Inferno/Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Rage of the Ursauk jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build), and Power Overload.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Crushing Shock/Storm Pulsar, Streak, Flame/Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Fire/Storms, Twilight Tormentor (Twilight Matriarch for solo roleplay variant of build) and Fiery/Thunderous Rage.
    Electric-Heal
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    • My Healer Build.
    • Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
    • Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
    Electric-Ward
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    • My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
    • Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Mother Ciannait's (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Max Mag Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), CP restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and CP ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
    Electric-Vamp
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact for regular and NoCP build/Oblivion's Foe for dot build (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable. Max Mag Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Max Mag Enchants). Knight Slayer/Pariah jewelry/Plaguebreak for dot build (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant for regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build. Sharpened for dot build)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant regular and noCP build/absorb magicka enchant and Sharpened for dot build).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
    • Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Empowered Ward, and Shatter Soul.
    Dawnfang
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    • My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that only utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
    • Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (Infused/shock enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward, and Crescent Sweep.
    Duskfang
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    • Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
    • Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on head and everything else Magicka Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Max Health Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant/Stealth-Draining Poison IX), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with Spell Damage Enchant).
    • Ability-Bar 1:Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver (Shatter Soul).
    PvE Starter Gear
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    • Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
    • Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
    Race
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    • High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
    Mundus Stones
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    • PvP: The Lover for penetration when playing a sorc or temp.
    • PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
    • PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
    Current Champion Points
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    • DPS Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Thaumaturge, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
    • PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvE Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Weapons Expert, Biting Aura, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    • PvP Temp: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
    Favorite Foods and Potions
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    • Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
    • Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
    • Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
    • Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
  • Tasear
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    Make negate a real healing ultimate
  • pzschrek
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    Return frag stun
    Sorcs are tankier than they’ve ever been and sustain ok. We need a bit more out of our burst though
    “The enemy is anybody who's going to get you killed, no matter which side he is on.”
  • Kenndrah
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    Artim_X wrote: »
    I would turn the bound armor skill into a passive that only requires a sorc skill slotted (get max resources automatically regardless of playstyle, get minor ward/minor resolve, and get stronger light attacks. Whichever resource is highest is buffed mag, stam, or health). When you block you get glowing eyes/aura and your block mitigation increases (similar to the psijic passive concentrated barrier).

    Yes yes yes. Even if the active version of the skill becomes something completely different, pllleeaaassee make this part passive. Having to double bar a skin to get the same sort of benefits that most classes get from passives is so painful. This one change would help sorc barspace issues so much.
  • rafaelcsmaia
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    Buff sustain (indicate passives or dark deal/conversion)
    Artim_X wrote: »
    I would turn the bound armor skill into a passive that only requires a sorc skill slotted (get max resources automatically regardless of playstyle, get minor ward/minor resolve, and get stronger light attacks. Whichever resource is highest is buffed mag, stam, or health). When you block you get glowing eyes/aura and your block mitigation increases (similar to the psijic passive concentrated barrier).

    Replace the bound armor skill with bound weapon that transforms your weapons into ones that looks conjured (maintains the same style just looks more magical). The skill has both a mag/stam morph, grants minor berserk, and heavy/light attacks can trigger a secondary affect that needs to be activated. Basically this would be a sorc version of grim focus.

    Absolutely love the idea of bound weapons, although as you describe it would be fairly op.

    Anyways sorcs need to get rid of stupid buff slotted skills that grant stuff and rather have more active skills
  • Crixus8000
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    I just wish people would stop saying sorc. There is stamsorc and magsorc and pve and pvp, they are different ;)

    But as for changes I would like bolt escape to be more reliable. Aedrion gave a good idea. It would help our survivability from a stamsorc perspective since our speed was nerfed.

    I would also like more passives to actually benefit stamsorc and get a usable ultimate, air atro would be nice.


    Edited by Crixus8000 on January 20, 2019 1:29AM
  • Dark_in_a_box
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    I'm a stamblade main that's started playing my magsorc again and I think they're ridiculously strong right now. The only difference I've noticed since the nerfs are I can't tank 4+people without Los anymore but my resistances are still on the lowish side. Imo I think they're in a good position. I would maybe want the frag stun back but I'm using clench with masters and that seems like a good alternative.

    Edit: probably more a bug but streak still gets me stuck in one spot after the animation. Think that needs addressing.
    Edited by Dark_in_a_box on January 20, 2019 1:50AM
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