Racials barely mattered at all to begin with, and why is there such an adamant need to have your character be the best possible Race based on stats? Your character stops being a character and ends up being nothing more than a spreadsheet.
I'm a player of 3+ years. I have 5 characters. 3 are Khajiit, 2 Argonian. I got Mageslayer, Peak Scaler etc. on a Khajiit MagSorc of all things. I think people will live if your Race isnt Meta anymore.
What's your opinion, forums?
PS: don't start with: you can play without the BiS race etc, I really want to see you entering a raid group for immortal redeemer with a khajiit mage.
PS: don't start with: you can play without the BiS race etc, I really want to see you entering a raid group for immortal redeemer with a khajiit mage.
Hi all.
As a player that is here since a while, I am a bit concerned about the current money request on behalf of ZoS. The team is giving us only one free race change when we probably have at least 1 pvp, 1 pve character and usually way more characters than that, while also asking us to purchase Elseweyr for 40€.
I am not complaining about the prices themselves, they are fair, but the older player base might have built their characters on the previous races and, in order to reach the desired performance on that character, would have to purchase 1 race change per char. Isn't this a bit... Too much, considering that race changes cost 3k crowns?
I am sincerely concerned because before, crowns were necessary for cosmetic items, and you could avoid purchasing those, but now just to play the game at its peak, you also need to purchase loads of race change tokens for all of your characters. I don't know, I feel like players who have an X amount of hours on some older characters should get multiple race change tokens, and not just one. What's your opinion, forums?
PS: don't start with: you can play without the BiS race etc, I really want to see you entering a raid group for immortal redeemer with a khajiit mage.
Some people might want to change their Altmer mage into Khajiit or an Redguard into Dunmer now that this works much better, yes you loose 1% but you can play the race you wanted.Elwendryll wrote: »Anything in this game is subject to change, more or less. That's a choice to use the most adequate race for a specific role/ressource type at a given time. BiS races are the most likely to get nerfed. The min/max life is the most hazardous one, you have to rebuild each update, race change, etc...
If you pick a race you love, you're less likely to feel the need to change. And, honestly, the new racials are not worth a race change. Unless you're as committed as a leaderboard runner, and you need that extra 1k dps.
PS: Wait for my khajiit mage
BoneShatterer wrote: »Hi all.
As a player that is here since a while, I am a bit concerned about the current money request on behalf of ZoS. The team is giving us only one free race change when we probably have at least 1 pvp, 1 pve character and usually way more characters than that, while also asking us to purchase Elseweyr for 40€.
I am not complaining about the prices themselves, they are fair, but the older player base might have built their characters on the previous races and, in order to reach the desired performance on that character, would have to purchase 1 race change per char. Isn't this a bit... Too much, considering that race changes cost 3k crowns?
I am sincerely concerned because before, crowns were necessary for cosmetic items, and you could avoid purchasing those, but now just to play the game at its peak, you also need to purchase loads of race change tokens for all of your characters. I don't know, I feel like players who have an X amount of hours on some older characters should get multiple race change tokens, and not just one. What's your opinion, forums?
PS: don't start with: you can play without the BiS race etc, I really want to see you entering a raid group for immortal redeemer with a khajiit mage.
30$ to avoid working on a new char for 3 days... fair enough dont you think? lazyness and credit are a dangerous mix. specially when a company relies on the stupidity of lazy players to live
Hi all.
As a player that is here since a while, I am a bit concerned about the current money request on behalf of ZoS. The team is giving us only one free race change when we probably have at least 1 pvp, 1 pve character and usually way more characters than that, while also asking us to purchase Elseweyr for 40€.
I am not complaining about the prices themselves, they are fair, but the older player base might have built their characters on the previous races and, in order to reach the desired performance on that character, would have to purchase 1 race change per char. Isn't this a bit... Too much, considering that race changes cost 3k crowns?
I am sincerely concerned because before, crowns were necessary for cosmetic items, and you could avoid purchasing those, but now just to play the game at its peak, you also need to purchase loads of race change tokens for all of your characters. I don't know, I feel like players who have an X amount of hours on some older characters should get multiple race change tokens, and not just one. What's your opinion, forums?
PS: don't start with: you can play without the BiS race etc, I really want to see you entering a raid group for immortal redeemer with a khajiit mage.
As I have said before, they should probably just get rid of racials.
Then everyone is on an even footing and no one has to pay for a race change.
There is more than enough to think about, in this game, in terms of class, magicka/stamina/hybrid choice, skills, CP points, gear (there is way too much random gear!) and so on, without needing the added complications of racials, which you can't even change without having to pay to abandon your character.
I don't want to lose QOL/mild survivability things, like my fall damage reduction and I like that I will be able to get a slight speed boost without bow; but, things like that could always be optional extras gained in other ways (like via skill points).
They don't have to be linked to race.
My general assessment of the situation is this:
Some Players: I have decided I want to be a power gamer and min-maxer, and must be competitive at PvP/trials/etc
Developers: *inevitable changes to game mechanics*
Some Players: How dare you make changes that make me change my characters because of my decision to be a power gamer and min-maxer!
Take responsibility for your decisions, guys. If you decide to be a power gamer, you need to either accept the consequences of that decision or consider amending your fixation on power gaming. There is only a cost because YOU insist on holding to particular expectations; that's not the developer's responsibility, it's YOURS. You WILL have to deal with this again. Over, and over, and over. You are not entitled to ANY developer compensation for this.
This hostility always seems to come from people who RP or people who play casual. I mean you are 100% entitled to your opinion and at least you are nice enough to show it to us all. I know when you are questing or role playing it doesnt mean anything to have the right race, but for some of us it does.
For some of us who like to do the hardest content the game has to offer, it does. For some of us who like to go into cyrodil alone, every little bit matters. If you understood pvp, or endgame pve content, you would know that someone with a race that does nothing for them will usually do worse than someone who has a race that benefits them in multiple ways. At least if the players are both competent with what they are doing.
You are literally blaming people for not wanting to be sucked into a blatant cash grab aimed at any competitive-somewhat competitive players in the game. Thats truly sad. Im sorry i dont want to go into pvp on an orc stam sorc, or any class tbh, thats lost nearly all the healing i had and a good amount of my max health/stam.
Racials barely mattered at all to begin with, and why is there such an adamant need to have your character be the best possible Race based on stats? Your character stops being a character and ends up being nothing more than a spreadsheet.
I'm a player of 3+ years. I have 5 characters. 3 are Khajiit, 2 Argonian. I got Mageslayer, Peak Scaler etc. on a Khajiit MagSorc of all things. I think people will live if your Race isnt Meta anymore.
BoneShatterer wrote: »Hi all.
As a player that is here since a while, I am a bit concerned about the current money request on behalf of ZoS. The team is giving us only one free race change when we probably have at least 1 pvp, 1 pve character and usually way more characters than that, while also asking us to purchase Elseweyr for 40€.
I am not complaining about the prices themselves, they are fair, but the older player base might have built their characters on the previous races and, in order to reach the desired performance on that character, would have to purchase 1 race change per char. Isn't this a bit... Too much, considering that race changes cost 3k crowns?
I am sincerely concerned because before, crowns were necessary for cosmetic items, and you could avoid purchasing those, but now just to play the game at its peak, you also need to purchase loads of race change tokens for all of your characters. I don't know, I feel like players who have an X amount of hours on some older characters should get multiple race change tokens, and not just one. What's your opinion, forums?
PS: don't start with: you can play without the BiS race etc, I really want to see you entering a raid group for immortal redeemer with a khajiit mage.
30$ to avoid working on a new char for 3 days... fair enough dont you think? lazyness and credit are a dangerous mix. specially when a company relies on the stupidity of lazy players to live
My general assessment of the situation is this:
Some Players: I have decided I want to be a power gamer and min-maxer, and must be competitive at PvP/trials/etc
Developers: *inevitable changes to game mechanics*
Some Players: How dare you make changes that make me change my characters because of my decision to be a power gamer and min-maxer!
Take responsibility for your decisions, guys. If you decide to be a power gamer, you need to either accept the consequences of that decision or consider amending your fixation on power gaming. There is only a cost because YOU insist on holding to particular expectations; that's not the developer's responsibility, it's YOURS. You WILL have to deal with this again. Over, and over, and over. You are not entitled to ANY developer compensation for this.
The difference is, until now, fixing your character back to meta after changes has never cost real money. It's one thing to have to go grind out another set of gear, mats for upgrading, enchants, etc because you're playing the game to get what you need to be the best you can. It's another to simply have to drop $30 per character after the first. This is why people are upset.