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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8098811/#Comment_8098811

HARDMODE FOR QUEST!!

ochsinator
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ZoS please make a hard mode on quest that give better rewards it would make questing insanely more engaging and worth while for everyone.
  • myskyrim26
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    What reward, for example?
  • russelmmendoza
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    Yes pls. Overland and delve too. Make a vet and hm for all those 3. Give purple tier rewards pls.
  • El_Borracho
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    Not to pee on the parade, but other than making delves, public dungeons, and world boss battles instanced content, the only way to implement this would be voting when a boss spawns, similar to the kick feature in groups. And while it could be workable, you will be met with the flood of whining about, "I am a Level 20 and I can't finish X quest because people keep selecting hard mode," or, "I want to do hard mode, but these noobs keep voting no," or, "This group keeps trolling and voting hard mode, then leaving, ban them."
  • Mr_Walker
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    Not to pee on the parade, but other than making delves, public dungeons, and world boss battles instanced content, the only way to implement this would be voting when a boss spawns, similar to the kick feature in groups. And while it could be workable, you will be met with the flood of whining about, "I am a Level 20 and I can't finish X quest because people keep selecting hard mode," or, "I want to do hard mode, but these noobs keep voting no," or, "This group keeps trolling and voting hard mode, then leaving, ban them."

    Why do I suspect the bolded would happen a LOT?

  • ochsinator
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    What reward, for example?

    Extra gold, extra xp, more rare gear.
  • ochsinator
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    Not to pee on the parade, but other than making delves, public dungeons, and world boss battles instanced content, the only way to implement this would be voting when a boss spawns, similar to the kick feature in groups. And while it could be workable, you will be met with the flood of whining about, "I am a Level 20 and I can't finish X quest because people keep selecting hard mode," or, "I want to do hard mode, but these noobs keep voting no," or, "This group keeps trolling and voting hard mode, then leaving, ban them."

    I’m talking about when solo questing being able to accept the hard mode version on the quest from the box which would make all the enemies do more damage and have more life and harder to fight like more mechanics.

  • russelmmendoza
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    Not to pee on the parade, but other than making delves, public dungeons, and world boss battles instanced content, the only way to implement this would be voting when a boss spawns, similar to the kick feature in groups. And while it could be workable, you will be met with the flood of whining about, "I am a Level 20 and I can't finish X quest because people keep selecting hard mode," or, "I want to do hard mode, but these noobs keep voting no," or, "This group keeps trolling and voting hard mode, then leaving, ban them."

    Were saying solo quest, delve, story and public dungeons. Not group. We want to toggle it to vet and hm for solo instances. We want to do solo quest, delve and story mission on solo vet and hm mode.
  • kargen27
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    I wouldn't mind being able to toggle on a hard mode for solo activities but there should be no added reward. The incentive should be for fun. People who for whatever reason can't or do not want to do hard mode shouldn't feel pressured to try because of better rewards.

    Not all quests have a solo instance. Most in fact do not have a solo instance. That means any changes made to create hard mode would have to be made to the character and not the things you will be killing. I doubt changing mechanics even in soloed instances is really feasible at this point even if they wanted to make the change. Nerfing your characters is the only way it can happen.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
  • El_Borracho
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    Were saying solo quest, delve, story and public dungeons. Not group. We want to toggle it to vet and hm for solo instances. We want to do solo quest, delve and story mission on solo vet and hm mode.

    I could be confused. Are you talking about doing delves public dungeons all by yourself? As in nobody else is in there? If so, that would work. When you said solo, I thought you were referring to general overland content. But overland/story quests is where you lose me.

    There is "Group Content" and group activities, with the former being the group dungeons and trials in PVE. The latter is what I would consider solo, but you share an environment with many other players. Which is why I don't think its possible to do a hard mode overland quest, as you can come across anyone in the world, who is either doing the mission or just happens to occupy the same space at the same time.

    How could you ever segregate someone doing HM Dehsaan missions versus a player doing them on normal? Especially since most players pick up multiple missions at a time and do them at their leisure. Practically speaking, if a HM player and a normal both happened upon overland quest content at the same time, such as the Deshaan quest where they are poisoning people and there are bunches of soldiers, how do you make the same adds have different health and damage values at the same time?

    All I could think of is having 2 servers, one for normal overland and one for hard mode. And that is never going to happen
  • Veuth
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    I'd much prefer having certain bosses like Mannimarco and Molag Bal receive a huge buff because they seem really weak despite the build-up to how scary and powerful they are.
  • UrQuan
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    It could be done by allowing you to put a "hard mode" debuff on your character that makes you take more damage from everything and reduces the amount of damage you do.
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  • Finviuswe
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    Sure. lol

    I'd in support, I mean. It's about time
  • Chufu
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    Let's all play naked characters and the world will be hardmode...! B)
  • sp_korshun
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    Yep, if you want hm quests just remove cp, gear, food and skills. You're welcome.
  • kargen27
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    Chufu wrote: »
    Let's all play naked characters and the world will be hardmode...! B)

    A guild I am in does from time to time have naked overland boss runs. They are fun. Another guild tried a no weapons Hall of Fabrication run. It was fun but we didn't get anywhere near finishing it. For New Years they did a trial where the only weapon you could equip was an ice staff. I missed that one but was told they had a good time.
    and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."
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