Haters gonna hate 😎
https://youtu.be/w1GqBjdXX2Q
I use lethal arrow, but I don't "spam" it. A one second cast time is hardly spam. I use it mosly around keeps to counter range attacts on the seige line. And unless the person is low health already or in all light divines with less than 16k health, they aren't gona die. If you're full health and dying to snipe it's L2P.
They do need to fix the desync though, which is the real issue..proteinexe wrote:No nerf of damage, but an increase cost like you said - just like streak
You mean the streak that a mag sorc can spam 5-6 times at least? Don't tell me they can't because I've played mag sorc and have done it many times.
Bow is the only damn ranged stamina option, of which 2 skills are even useful in pvp.
Let's nerf reach, crushing shock, mages wrath, radient destruction, javlin and every single ranged magicka ability in the same way you propose for bow
How does one “L2P” when affected by a health desync bug? Most people who go from 100% health to 0 in one second while being hit by Snipe spam are affected by said bug.
I’m really tired of posting video footage of the bug in question, so feel free to look it up on YT before spouting further nonsense.
Kingslayer513 wrote: »Why are you lying and spreading misinformation?TequilaFire wrote: »
TequilaFire wrote: »Kingslayer513 wrote: »Why are you lying and spreading misinformation?TequilaFire wrote: »
Not lying, attacks break stealth.
Not to mention many times in lag all you can do with snipe is point your bow in the air without it firing and get killed because you are exposed.
Facefister wrote: »Hate it or not, Snipe adds to build diversity. Today you remove Snipe, what comes tomorrow?
Sheezabeast wrote: »Other than fixing the desync issue, I’d have ZOS revert the change to the order of bow abilities. Having Snipe so early on in bow leveling makes lowbie battlegrounds miserable.
Facefister wrote: »Hate it or not, Snipe adds to build diversity. Today you remove Snipe, what comes tomorrow?
A better game with more balance??
I use lethal arrow, but I don't "spam" it. A one second cast time is hardly spam. I use it mosly around keeps to counter range attacts on the seige line. And unless the person is low health already or in all light divines with less than 16k health, they aren't gona die. If you're full health and dying to snipe it's L2P.
They do need to fix the desync though, which is the real issue..proteinexe wrote:No nerf of damage, but an increase cost like you said - just like streak
You mean the streak that a mag sorc can spam 5-6 times at least? Don't tell me they can't because I've played mag sorc and have done it many times.
Bow is the only damn ranged stamina option, of which 2 skills are even useful in pvp.
Let's nerf reach, crushing shock, mages wrath, radient destruction, javlin and every single ranged magicka ability in the same way you propose for bow
How does one “L2P” when affected by a health desync bug? Most people who go from 100% health to 0 in one second while being hit by Snipe spam are affected by said bug.
I’m really tired of posting video footage of the bug in question, so feel free to look it up on YT before spouting further nonsense.
In reference to the comparasion of reach, force pulse ect... to snipe. Snipe is 40m not 28. Im sure snipe wouldnt be as effective if the magsorcs/ magblades could hit them back.
StormChaser3000 wrote: »Haters gonna hate 😎
https://youtu.be/w1GqBjdXX2Q
@Icky You are the last drop that inspired me to finally put together my stamblade alt and try the bow. xD
Yesterday I was actually running on my dps Sorc in a group with a similar guy in IC. He was punishing Zerg groups there. Nice person actually. We all had a lot of fun.
TequilaFire wrote: »Sheezabeast wrote: »Other than fixing the desync issue, I’d have ZOS revert the change to the order of bow abilities. Having Snipe so early on in bow leveling makes lowbie battlegrounds miserable.
Now this I agree with never understood why they changed snipe to unlock so early.
And the client/server desync is the problem.
Seraphayel wrote: »The problem is not Snipe, the problem is the synergy with Cloak and all the other tools you can use to absolutely abuse it.
Been trying to say this for a while.
I can dodge or block a snipe and come at them and they have to fight or die.
I can use detect pots, magelight, or just AOE to combat a cloaking NB so they either kill me or I kill them. Seems good so far.
Someone starts sniping from 40m away and cloak as soon as you see the direction it is coming from, well; you are going to have to cover some ground to get a detect pot on them and good luck trying to use AOE in the right area 40m away. It becomes just playing dance dance revolution evading the next snipe. Theres no or risk. Its just them waiting to get someone off guard or for lag to make 6 snipes land at the same time.
Honestly if you have snipe on your bar you're basically admitting to yourself that you're pathetic at the game, have no intention to learn a dynamic rotation and enjoy getting tbagged 24/7.
There's no justification to using an ability that is broken atm - a 40m ability that hits like a dizzying swing plus desyncs was pretty much designed with the intention to cater for people born without thumbs.
Note: Never refer to snipe as a 'skill' when you refer to it because there's nothing 'skillful' about using it. So just call it an 'ability.'
TequilaFire wrote: »I can't see how a skill with a cast time is a spammable, but oh well.
I have no problem with snipe, if I really want to tick people off from range I use Flying Blade which boosts my weapon damage and hits like a truck and slows 40%. Of course they will cry to nerf that next. smh
Decrease the base dmg, make it so that every snipe is a crit.
This will increase the dmg from non nightblades who use it strategically, and reduce the dmg from the NBs in gank builds like mine that stack pure dmg and use cloak to force a crit.
Honestly if you have snipe on your bar you're basically admitting to yourself that you're pathetic at the game, have no intention to learn a dynamic rotation and enjoy getting tbagged 24/7.
There's no justification to using an ability that is broken atm - a 40m ability that hits like a dizzying swing plus desyncs was pretty much designed with the intention to cater for people born without thumbs.
Note: Never refer to snipe as a 'skill' when you refer to it because there's nothing 'skillful' about using it. So just call it an 'ability.'
TequilaFire wrote: »Honestly if you have snipe on your bar you're basically admitting to yourself that you're pathetic at the game, have no intention to learn a dynamic rotation and enjoy getting tbagged 24/7.
There's no justification to using an ability that is broken atm - a 40m ability that hits like a dizzying swing plus desyncs was pretty much designed with the intention to cater for people born without thumbs.
Note: Never refer to snipe as a 'skill' when you refer to it because there's nothing 'skillful' about using it. So just call it an 'ability.'
Nermind - not worth it.
snipe is one of the few things that keeps DKs relevant, what with the reflector wings and all.
also, few things are more satisfying than killing those BG campers that snipe from their spawn point with their own arrows. Prove me wrong.
snipe is one of the few things that keeps DKs relevant, what with the reflector wings and all.
also, few things are more satisfying than killing those BG campers that snipe from their spawn point with their own arrows. Prove me wrong.
Sure its fun but not everyone has Wings or shimmering shield.
Maybe i am a squishy magblade and getting hit from 8k snipes from a dude hiding in stealth. I couldnt predict its coming cause he was in stealth, i got cc and just ate the 2nd 8k snipe and the snipe wasnt in my LOS and instantly cloacked again making it impossible to find him to fight back.
So, what to do? Ofc, heal up. Healing is weak on magblade, need shields, shields are smal in no cp. He is in stealth and prolly preparing his next snipe. Only thing i can do is also cloak and move away cause he wont show himself until he is ready for some more snipes.....
Pretty balanced, yep.
snipe is one of the few things that keeps DKs relevant, what with the reflector wings and all.
also, few things are more satisfying than killing those BG campers that snipe from their spawn point with their own arrows. Prove me wrong.
Sure its fun but not everyone has Wings or shimmering shield.
Maybe i am a squishy magblade and getting hit from 8k snipes from a dude hiding in stealth. I couldnt predict its coming cause he was in stealth, i got cc and just ate the 2nd 8k snipe and the snipe wasnt in my LOS and instantly cloacked again making it impossible to find him to fight back.
So, what to do? Ofc, heal up. Healing is weak on magblade, need shields, shields are smal in no cp. He is in stealth and prolly preparing his next snipe. Only thing i can do is also cloak and move away cause he wont show himself until he is ready for some more snipes.....
Pretty balanced, yep.
And not everyone uses snipe too
Safe to say it is balanced.
gamerguy757 wrote: »Look I'm not saying to nerf the move, but the spamming on it is a little out of hand. I mean, you cry that we spam SHIELDS and they are OP, so here we go again with a move that is OP spammable and you defend it? OK here's my proposal.
Snipe
Plant a masterfully aimed arrow into an enemy's vital spot, dealing X Physical Damage. (Nerf initial damage by 15%) Activating this ability within 1.5 seconds increases the cost by 20%.
Focused Aim
Increase damage by up to 15% based on distance to target.
Lethal Arrow
No change
LET THE HATE BEGIN
Even though I do agree snipe is in need of attention, when you start by saying they should do it because shields got nerfed, I can only assumed you're asking this out if hate and butt hurt for your beloved sorc. That's the wrong reason to ask for nerfs. The wrong kind of argument. If you want this to happen, present better defense. Good luck in all your endeavors, you'll need it, being such a grudge holder crybaby.
In time, it's been 3 months... L2p.
And before you start telling I'm a snipe spammer, I have 13 toons and just one of them is running a bow, and only for passives and endless hail.