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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/8098811/#Comment_8098811

Can we get a Hand to Hand Skill Line

Lab3360
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No weapons. Just hands and Feet knees Elbows and Headbutt and with knock backs, interrupts and maybe a slam for ulti.

No need for interlocking animation. Could be strike based animation only with some channels.

Not everyone in Elder Scrolls fight with wespons, so it should not be lore breaking. It would be nice to get this in the game. Would be a fresh combat style completely different from any other class and would create a much needed dynamic.

There could be gear designs specific to this type of physical damage or magikal.

Develop a special skill line similar to some guild skills like Psyjiic, Fighters Guild, etc,.
Edited by Lab3360 on December 14, 2018 5:21PM
  • sharquez
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    I'm strongly against new classes and more in favor of skill lines. This keeps veteran players engaged with characters they already invested in, and minimizes the grind to make the character viable.

    That said I really really want an unarmed skill line that favor either hybrid builds (unarmed shouldn't be strictly stam, after all touch spells were a thing for many ES games) and/or makes use of new/innovative mobility mechanics (bring back monks/acrobats)
    Edited by sharquez on December 14, 2018 5:05PM
    At least 3 of each class. PVPing Since IC.
  • Lab3360
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    sharquez wrote: »
    I'm strongly against new classes and more in favor of skill lines. This keeps veteran players engaged with characters they already invested in, and minimizes the grind to make the character viable.

    That said I really really want an unarmed skill line that favor either hybrid builds (unarmed shouldn't be strictly stam, after all touch spells were a thing for many ES games) and/or makes use of new/innovative mobility mechanics (bring back monks/acrobats)

    I agree 100%
    I think I am going to change the title to reflect such.

    Thank you for that.
    Edited by Lab3360 on December 14, 2018 5:21PM
  • El_Borracho
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    Why would my fierce kitty stam DK want to punch something in the face when he is holding 2 perfectly good daggers?

    I would love to see some new animation (that I will likely try to cancel) but I don't see the usefulness of an unarmed skill line. Or a non-cumbersome way to implement it.
  • SilverIce58
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    Why would my fierce kitty stam DK want to punch something in the face when he is holding 2 perfectly good daggers?

    Its funny that you say that when Khajiits are the race that have the most interest in hand to hand combat
    Edited by SilverIce58 on December 14, 2018 7:46PM
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    Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
    Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
    Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
    Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
    Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
    Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
    Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
    Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
    Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC
  • El_Borracho
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    @SilverIce58 I know. I remember when Khajiits in Skyrim had some sort of unarmed skill.

    If you could make unarmed hit as much as armed, then I see some utility for it. But that's just not going to happen. I can see the threads now. NERF KHAJIITS!!
  • SilverIce58
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    @SilverIce58 I know. I remember when Khajiits in Skyrim had some sort of unarmed skill.

    If you could make unarmed hit as much as armed, then I see some utility for it. But that's just not going to happen. I can see the threads now. NERF KHAJIITS!!

    Well, that's what they mean by make an unarmed skill line. Make it hit as hard as a regular weapon would.
    PC - NA
    CP 1125
    Veric Blackwood - Breton Magsorc DC
    Xhiak-Qua'cthurus - Argonian Frost Warden EP
    Kujata-qa - Khajiit Magplar AD
    Suunleth-dar - Khajiit Stamblade AD
    Teldryn Antharys - Dunmer Flame DK EP
    Strikes-With-Venom - Argonian Poison DK EP
    Rur'san-ra - Khajiit WW Stamsorc AD
    Ilianos Solinar - Altmer Stamplar AD
    Iscah Silver-Heart - Reachman Magden DC
  • Lab3360
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    @SilverIce58 I know. I remember when Khajiits in Skyrim had some sort of unarmed skill.

    If you could make unarmed hit as much as armed, then I see some utility for it. But that's just not going to happen. I can see the threads now. NERF KHAJIITS!!

    Lol. Pvpers
  • driosketch
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    This is a slight tangent, but I recently discovered you can bar swap without a weapon slotted now. In the absence of an actual skill line, this at least made me, and by extension my "punch cat", very happy.
    Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
    ●The Psijic Order●The Sidekick Order●Great House Hlaalu●Bal-Busters●
  • Lab3360
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    driosketch wrote: »
    This is a slight tangent, but I recently discovered you can bar swap without a weapon slotted now. In the absence of an actual skill line, this at least made me, and by extension my "punch cat", very happy.

    Punch Cat!

    I love it
  • lucky_Sage
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    Next weapon skill line need to be magic melee
    DC PC NA
    Magdk - main
    Stamcro - alt

    AD PS4 NA -retired (PC runs way better to play on console)
    magdk
    magblade
    stamplar
    magden
    magsorc

  • Minno
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    Monk Oblivion player here; strongly support this request!
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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    - Filthy Casual
  • Kanar
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    Yes would be great to have an unarmed weapon skill line. Would be easy to create it in a way that offers either magicka or stamina build, so it would also satisfy the "magicka dual wield" crowd.
  • Royaji
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    Sure. Just don't forget to give me an option to chop those hands off any Jet Li-wanna-be with my sword and go fight proper warriors who carry proper weapons. Not some peasants/monks who are not allowed to carry weapons and have to defend themselves without them.
  • Lab3360
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    lucky_Sage wrote: »
    Next weapon skill line need to be magic melee

    I would love to see it. It really would add a whole new dynamic
  • Lab3360
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    Minno wrote: »
    Monk Oblivion player here; strongly support this request!

    It would totally jibe with lore considering the Khajiits and Imperial had monks in Oblivion..

    This would work perfect.
  • Savos_Saren
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    I like the idea. Just as long as hand-to-hand PVP builds don’t start complaining that there’s no counter to ranged builds.
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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    Savos Saren
  • Solariken
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    Yes please Unarmed skill line!

    The ultimate needs to be the Sparta kick that the first boss in Blackheart Haven does!
  • Lab3360
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    I like the idea. Just as long as hand-to-hand PVP builds don’t start complaining that there’s no counter to ranged builds.

    They will. I assure you they will cry.
  • NoMoreChillies
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    I'd love handtohand skill line.
    Add in Muay Thai skins and you got my $$$
    Insulting people on the internet is cowardly.
  • Minno
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    I like the idea. Just as long as hand-to-hand PVP builds don’t start complaining that there’s no counter to ranged builds.

    Two words: passive dodge chance ;)
    Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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  • Curtdogg47
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    If they throw in some old Street Fighter 2 moves in the Skill line I am down with this idea!

    Looking forward to the Nerf hand to hand threads that will follow if they do this!


    Edited by Curtdogg47 on December 17, 2018 11:27PM
  • milesrodneymcneely2_ESO
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    Why would my fierce kitty stam DK want to punch something in the face when he is holding 2 perfectly good daggers?

    I would love to see some new animation (that I will likely try to cancel) but I don't see the usefulness of an unarmed skill line. Or a non-cumbersome way to implement it.
    Get out.

    No one likes you. :D
  • sharquez
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    H2h skilline is the dream,
    At least 3 of each class. PVPing Since IC.
  • SugaComa
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    No ...

    It would ruin my naked boxing nights in riften
  • Mureel
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    Lab3360 wrote: »
    No weapons. Just hands and Feet knees Elbows and Headbutt and with knock backs, interrupts and maybe a slam for ulti.

    No need for interlocking animation. Could be strike based animation only with some channels.

    Not everyone in Elder Scrolls fight with wespons, so it should not be lore breaking. It would be nice to get this in the game. Would be a fresh combat style completely different from any other class and would create a much needed dynamic.

    There could be gear designs specific to this type of physical damage or magikal.

    Develop a special skill line similar to some guild skills like Psyjiic, Fighters Guild, etc,.

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  • dazee
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    It's a fantasy setting, hand to hand combat without a weapon by the right person, especially when magic is involved can easily be as effective as someone wielding a weapon. Don't know whats up with these "Realism" people ruining the fun of a game, nobody plays games for realism.
    Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
  • Khivas_Carrick
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    Realism.

    In a game with lizard and cat people.

    lol
    Bobbity Boop, this game might become poop, but I'll still play because I'm just a pile of goop!
  • dazee
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    Realism.

    In a game with lizard and cat people.

    lol

    Exactly my friend. We already don't have realism so why insist on leaving out cool skill lines we could have becuase "A weapon does more damage than a fist"
    Playing your character the way your character should play is all that matters. Play as well as you can but never betray the character. Doing so would make playing an mmoRPG pointless.
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