ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
@ZOS_GinaBruno you're misunderstanding what OP said. Before Murkmire, applying Eclipse to a player didn't automatically grant them CC immunity -- only breaking free from the Eclipse granted CC immunity. As you can see in the video OP posted, now players cannot be stunned while Eclipse is on them, even though they haven't broken free from the Eclipse. Is that intended? It has never worked that way before (templar main here; I've used Eclipse thousands of times and it has never worked the way it has in OP's video).
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
Joy_Division wrote: »Oh my.
Definitely did not work that way before Murkmire. If what's on Live is intended, an already pretty niche skill just got noticeably more niche and less useful.
Joy_Division wrote: »Oh my.
Definitely did not work that way before Murkmire. If what's on Live is intended, an already pretty niche skill just got noticeably more niche and less useful.
Darkmage1337 wrote: »Another nail in the coffin for another one of Templar's useless class skills.
Should just do away with Eclipse altogether and bring back Blinding Flashes, tbqh.
Joy_Division wrote: »Oh my.
Definitely did not work that way before Murkmire. If what's on Live is intended, an already pretty niche skill just got noticeably more niche and less useful.
They didn’t change anything of the skill from the patch notes. Other than CC break free reliability changes that’s the only thing that I think would effect this.
Joy_Division wrote: »Oh my.
Definitely did not work that way before Murkmire. If what's on Live is intended, an already pretty niche skill just got noticeably more niche and less useful.
They didn’t change anything of the skill from the patch notes. Other than CC break free reliability changes that’s the only thing that I think would effect this.
Lots of changes with important gameplay implications never see the patch notes.
For example, you used to be able to jump off wall, pull enemy with DK chain while in the air, and they would get pulled with you to the ground where you fell. Not anymore - all they get is a short stun now.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
@ZOS_GinaBruno you're misunderstanding what OP said. Before Murkmire, applying Eclipse to a player didn't automatically grant them CC immunity -- only breaking free from the Eclipse granted CC immunity. As you can see in the video OP posted, now players cannot be stunned while Eclipse is on them, even though they haven't broken free from the Eclipse. Is that intended? It has never worked that way before (templar main here; I've used Eclipse thousands of times and it has never worked the way it has in OP's video).
I think she does understand. It’s considered a CC so that means once you cast it on a player that player is granted immunity so long as they’re in the bubble, and for the appropriate time after the effect ends. Seems very reasonable. It’s just an odd case because it’s the only CC that could allow for a double CC easily. But for example if youre hit with a dizzy swing, you can’t also be foissilized in midair despite not having CC broken yet.
I think she does understand. It’s considered a CC so that means once you cast it on a player that player is granted immunity so long as they’re in the bubble, and for the appropriate time after the effect ends. Seems very reasonable. It’s just an odd case because it’s the only CC that could allow for a double CC easily. But for example if youre hit with a dizzy swing, you can’t also be foissilized in midair despite not having CC broken yet.
Every CC you can double CC(Even Triple if you time it good) someone. The thing with your example Dizzy Swing "stun" ends when you are in the air hence why you cant be CC when you are in midair. However, you happen to get CC after WB hits you but before you get to the go mid air you can still get CCed. Its one of the reasons why you saw Jav double CC people alot. It use to work really good with Reverb(Still does) because that CC doesnt end until you step back. So you can usually(If you got good ping) spam it and chain CC people with it. Highest I gotten was around 5 in a row.
Hmm, is that the real reason the removed the knock back from javalin? Lol. I know I’ve seen it happen with Jav but I’ve not seen it happen with other CC, and I was always under the impression and double or triple CC was unintended. At any rate it seems like we should steer clear of abilities that can have a double CC effect. That ability is already pretty strong and officially making it a double CC ability opens up the path for more CC to follow suite. Frankly, given ZOS’ track record with fixing CC I don’t think going double CC is a good place for them to mess around.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »This is intended. Eclipse and its morphs are considered crowd control abilities; when you are hit by a crowd control ability, you can't be crowd controlled by another crowd control effect.
Hopefully this can be re-examined. It feels terrible now and completely messes up about 10 different Templar builds.
Why was this changed again without notes?