Just a random rant/statement. There is so much lore, so many quests and so much to do in a continually growing game here. I actually feel bad for you cp players. I see you run in, talk to an npc for a half a second, kill everything with a wave of one hand, then run off. How are you not completely bored by this game at this point? Is it actually fun to do the same trial, arena, dungeon for the 1000th time? Don't get me started on the 1T debacle, I know it won't ever get rolled back or changed and even with a level 10 character I find the fights as I go through questing content to be too easy, and that is without any cp on any character, it's just a vanilla character. I stay for the lore, the mystery, the storylines, the interesting populace, and even though I have been here for years, I still haven't even done any of the the dlc content, so I know I have so much yet to explore.
But, yeah, if hitting cp levels means this type of content becomes even less of a challenge than it already is, sorry Beth's characters, I will kill you off before you reach 50.
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adeptusminor wrote: »I do actually enjoy doing the same trials for the 1000th time trying to improve scores and improve my dps. I can count on 1 hand games where I enjoyed the story and unfortunately ESO/Elder Scrolls isn't one of them. So I do rush through the quests. Even on my first playthrough I was spam clicking my mouse like I was trying to close pop-ups to get through the dialogue. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest.
adeptusminor wrote: »I do actually enjoy doing the same trials for the 1000th time trying to improve scores and improve my dps. I can count on 1 hand games where I enjoyed the story and unfortunately ESO/Elder Scrolls isn't one of them. So I do rush through the quests. Even on my first playthrough I was spam clicking my mouse like I was trying to close pop-ups to get through the dialogue. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest.
On your first play through you spammed continue.
“I didn’t enjoy the story”
Really.
You should, actually.I will never let a character hit level 50
You should, actually.I will never let a character hit level 50
Once you hit 50 and enter the CP10 to CP160 part of the game, you lose your pre-50 level scaling and actually become noticeably weaker. In fact, you'll be quite a bit weaker than your scaled level 10 character.
And CP is completely optional, you never ever have to spent a single CP point.
So really, if you are trying to make the base game a bit more challenging you *should* level past 50 and not use any CP ...
adeptusminor wrote: »adeptusminor wrote: »I do actually enjoy doing the same trials for the 1000th time trying to improve scores and improve my dps. I can count on 1 hand games where I enjoyed the story and unfortunately ESO/Elder Scrolls isn't one of them. So I do rush through the quests. Even on my first playthrough I was spam clicking my mouse like I was trying to close pop-ups to get through the dialogue. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest.
On your first play through you spammed continue.
“I didn’t enjoy the story”
Really.
Yeah. I have literally 0 interest in the quests or story in this game.
edit: I don't generally play videogames for their stories. ESO didn't grab me at all during the intro. Had it I probably would have slowed down and payed more attention to further quests.
adeptusminor wrote: »adeptusminor wrote: »I do actually enjoy doing the same trials for the 1000th time trying to improve scores and improve my dps. I can count on 1 hand games where I enjoyed the story and unfortunately ESO/Elder Scrolls isn't one of them. So I do rush through the quests. Even on my first playthrough I was spam clicking my mouse like I was trying to close pop-ups to get through the dialogue. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest.
On your first play through you spammed continue.
“I didn’t enjoy the story”
Really.
Yeah. I have literally 0 interest in the quests or story in this game.
edit: I don't generally play videogames for their stories. ESO didn't grab me at all during the intro. Had it I probably would have slowed down and payed more attention to further quests.
The intro cinematic? Huh. I wasn’t grabbed for the intro cinematic for any video I’ve ever played... to me that is a weird qualification. I don’t remember any intro cinematics for any games I enjoyed come to think of it. I enjoyed Fable and I couldn’t begin to tell you what the trailer was about.
What my post means is that one states “I didn’t read the story” then “I didn’t like the story”. I dislike 100% of stories I don’t read as well.
lordrichter wrote: »jainiadral wrote: »Combat prior to the CP levels always got in my way of enjoying the actual story. There's nothing like taking 20+ minutes going from door to door in, say, Camlorn with dense packs of mobs that take eleventy-trillion years to kill, only to get to the next quest stage and find out you have to go back and re-kill them all over again. I'd take a day or two to liberate a single town because I needed constant breaks. Not to mention that leveling made my gear obsolete over and over again-- which got really old really fast.
Now I can relax and enjoy the good writing, the visual storytelling, the music, and the environments instead of being a tight wad of stress. And now at 160+, I can relax on gear altogether. I don't need to play another game to wind down from this one.
Questing is the same at CP-whatever. You just kill things a little faster.
I like your comment, but have a slightly different perspective.
The game world feels different when the overland monsters are not something that can be one-shot, or similarly dealt with in a quick manner.
The main purpose of my Level 50 characters is to chase the quarterly CP cap increase. I am a little over CP 800 right now on my way to CP 810. Getting CP after the cap is a waste of XP, so my desire is to limit CP increases after that point. This means I spend a lot of time doing things in the game that don't build CP. Among those things, I level up characters.
I don't like allocating CP on my Level 50 characters. I tend to do it once a quarter, once I hit CP cap. There is no way I am going to allocate CP across my other characters. That means that I am leveling without CP. As it turns out, I like it that way. The game world feels more challenging, and I feel like I am more connected with what is happening. I don't just plow through them. I have to take a break to regenerate resources between groups of mobs. Sometimes, I go out of my way to go around them.
I've been the person who solos public dungeons and overland content, including world bosses. I still am, actually, although I have stopped soloing the world bosses. I realized years ago, when I was gearing up to go solo on early group dungeon content, that I was heading in the wrong direction.
The key to happiness, for me, is not a more powerful character, one-shotting overland content, and running the hardest content in the game. It is actually the journey to get to the point where I start to think I can do that, and then go back and start over.
Just a random rant/statement. There is so much lore, so many quests and so much to do in a continually growing game here. I actually feel bad for you cp players. I see you run in, talk to an npc for a half a second, kill everything with a wave of one hand, then run off. How are you not completely bored by this game at this point? Is it actually fun to do the same trial, arena, dungeon for the 1000th time? Don't get me started on the 1T debacle, I know it won't ever get rolled back or changed and even with a level 10 character I find the fights as I go through questing content to be too easy, and that is without any cp on any character, it's just a vanilla character. I stay for the lore, the mystery, the storylines, the interesting populace, and even though I have been here for years, I still haven't even done any of the the dlc content, so I know I have so much yet to explore.
But, yeah, if hitting cp levels means this type of content becomes even less of a challenge than it already is, sorry Beth's characters, I will kill you off before you reach 50.
Just a random rant/statement. There is so much lore, so many quests and so much to do in a continually growing game here. I actually feel bad for you cp players. I see you run in, talk to an npc for a half a second, kill everything with a wave of one hand, then run off. How are you not completely bored by this game at this point? Is it actually fun to do the same trial, arena, dungeon for the 1000th time? Don't get me started on the 1T debacle, I know it won't ever get rolled back or changed and even with a level 10 character I find the fights as I go through questing content to be too easy, and that is without any cp on any character, it's just a vanilla character. I stay for the lore, the mystery, the storylines, the interesting populace, and even though I have been here for years, I still haven't even done any of the the dlc content, so I know I have so much yet to explore.
But, yeah, if hitting cp levels means this type of content becomes even less of a challenge than it already is, sorry Beth's characters, I will kill you off before you reach 50.
@LibonotusDoesn’t 1T make it so if you’re max cp the npcs will be at max cp difficulty
lordrichter wrote: »Uhm. A little off base here, OP.
I am a slow leveler and I have a number of Level 50 characters, and around 800 CP. I have more that are below 50. I have been playing since the end of March 2014. I am not afraid to cross that Level 50 boundary. This does not mean that I am zooming through content without reading it. Quite the opposite. ESO has wonderful writing. Not to be missed.
adeptusminor wrote: »adeptusminor wrote: »I do actually enjoy doing the same trials for the 1000th time trying to improve scores and improve my dps. I can count on 1 hand games where I enjoyed the story and unfortunately ESO/Elder Scrolls isn't one of them. So I do rush through the quests. Even on my first playthrough I was spam clicking my mouse like I was trying to close pop-ups to get through the dialogue. It just doesn't interest me in the slightest.
On your first play through you spammed continue.
“I didn’t enjoy the story”
Really.
Yeah. I have literally 0 interest in the quests or story in this game.
edit: I don't generally play videogames for their stories. ESO didn't grab me at all during the intro. Had it I probably would have slowed down and payed more attention to further quests.
The intro cinematic? Huh. I wasn’t grabbed for the intro cinematic for any video I’ve ever played... to me that is a weird qualification. I don’t remember any intro cinematics for any games I enjoyed come to think of it. I enjoyed Fable and I couldn’t begin to tell you what the trailer was about.
What my post means is that one states “I didn’t read the story” then “I didn’t like the story”. I dislike 100% of stories I don’t read as well.
lordrichter wrote: »Uhm. A little off base here, OP.
I am a slow leveler and I have a number of Level 50 characters, and around 800 CP. I have more that are below 50. I have been playing since the end of March 2014. I am not afraid to cross that Level 50 boundary. This does not mean that I am zooming through content without reading it. Quite the opposite. ESO has wonderful writing. Not to be missed.
If you think ESO has wonderful writing...I dont even know where to start. Don't get me wrong...some quests are marginally interesting, and even fewer are actually well written...but just compare ESO quests to say...The Witcher and the difference is night and day. The Witcher quests arent all that well written either...but they are all unique and engaging. Actual well written fantasy stories are few and far between(I can think of maybe a dozen books/series that qualify as well written, and their authors have been dead for decades. IE Roger Zelazny and the Amber series)
Just a random rant/statement. There is so much lore, so many quests and so much to do in a continually growing game here. I actually feel bad for you cp players. I see you run in, talk to an npc for a half a second, kill everything with a wave of one hand, then run off. How are you not completely bored by this game at this point? Is it actually fun to do the same trial, arena, dungeon for the 1000th time? Don't get me started on the 1T debacle, I know it won't ever get rolled back or changed and even with a level 10 character I find the fights as I go through questing content to be too easy, and that is without any cp on any character, it's just a vanilla character. I stay for the lore, the mystery, the storylines, the interesting populace, and even though I have been here for years, I still haven't even done any of the the dlc content, so I know I have so much yet to explore.
But, yeah, if hitting cp levels means this type of content becomes even less of a challenge than it already is, sorry Beth's characters, I will kill you off before you reach 50.
I do miss pre-1T. Certain zones were limited to your lvl and if you were 10 levels below that, you could still try it out if you thought were good enough. I remember trying for The Rift area when I hadn't reached level 40 yet. It was challenging but fun. 1T has taken the challenge out of ESO, I will agree.
ZOS needs to start using the CP levels more seriously. For example, create zones that would require a higher CP level.