https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=84447
This was sorta the setup i was working on before the patch; but all the other Sorcs were telling me it wouldn't work *grin*.
PhoenixGrey wrote: »
Waffennacht wrote: »PhoenixGrey wrote: »
I wasn't aware of any advantages...
I think that last part is true for anyone running mag sorc atm
if you weren't running impen on sorc already you were zerging
if you weren't running impen on sorc already you were zerging
yeah definitly, a good sorc barely ever uses his shields, doesnt bother keeping them up and doesnt know when he is about to get ultidumped / bursted, hence the impen armor trait choice over something like well-fitted or infused
I have two builds I am looking at right now.
The first relies on my current bar setup for burst damage with the sets providing sustain a resistances. It also keeps me in light armor.
5 Piece Pariah on jewelry and two large body pieces(Shields will get stronger as your health gets lower.)
5 Piece Bright Throat for sustain and max mag.
2 Piece Bloodspawn
The Second setup is an odd one I want to try, that removes most of the reflectable damage a sorc has and removes the burst for sustained pressure (No Curse, and no frags). Still in light armor with 2 heavy. But with all tri-stat glyphs. Get most of my resists from Bloodspawn and keeping Boundless up. Tri-Stat for health.
5x Netch
5x Innate Axiom
2x Bloodspawn
Dual Swords, and restro back bar. Intend to use Bloodcraze for the dot, heal and enchant proc (with lightning enchant and damage enchant).
Also intend to use boundless on the front bar to keep the buff uptime going.
And the key to the build will be using Mages Wrath as the spammable rather than only using it for execute. With Axiom and Netch, Wrath's initial hit is going to be strong, and it is unreflectable.
Will use Overload for the ultimate.
does minor/major protection apply before shields now?
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=84447
This was sorta the setup i was working on before the patch; but all the other Sorcs were telling me it wouldn't work *grin*.
if you weren't running impen on sorc already you were zerging
yeah definitly, a good sorc barely ever uses his shields, doesnt bother keeping them up and doesnt know when he is about to get ultidumped / bursted, hence the impen armor trait choice over something like well-fitted or infused
Sooo,
effectively, this means we either are dps-useless tank-trolls/support builds that may act as negate bots and purge spammers (+ some CC, maybe) or close-to-useless dps'ish glass cannons without self heal or effective shielding/getaways, whom every stam gapclose instantly crushes to a bloody cyrodiil mess?
Yea, a lot of people don't seem to appreciate the difference in max-CP PvP and no-CP PvP. All the, "Don't worry about Impen, they won't touch your health if you're not bad" talk seems to be coming from people that don't do Battlegrounds or no-CP Cyrodiil (but especially the BGs).if you weren't running impen on sorc already you were zerging
yeah definitly, a good sorc barely ever uses his shields, doesnt bother keeping them up and doesnt know when he is about to get ultidumped / bursted, hence the impen armor trait choice over something like well-fitted or infused
i used 5 impen 2 well fitted because I play my sorc in no cp where I dont get dodge cost reduction from cp and my shields werent huge because its no cp
Waffennacht wrote: »if you weren't running impen on sorc already you were zerging
yeah definitly, a good sorc barely ever uses his shields, doesnt bother keeping them up and doesnt know when he is about to get ultidumped / bursted, hence the impen armor trait choice over something like well-fitted or infused
A good sorc knows that splash damage can crit and when having multiple opponents, including Stam sorc's implosion, crit resistance is mandatory to prevent 100-0
Good Sorcs also don't Zerg in OW and usually solo or PuG BGs...
You know the impen trait sorcs loved to ignore? Slot it, you are going to need it, I guarantee it.
And all light armor specs should be comfortable getting 20-21k resists with/without shields.
You know the impen trait sorcs loved to ignore? Slot it, you are going to need it, I guarantee it.
And all light armor specs should be comfortable getting 20-21k resists with/without shields.
Been running it since dbh
Good thing bleeds don’t care about resistances
Defile *** our already low healing
We can be crit on but cannot crit ward size
And still struggle in the sustain department
Shackle lich 2x wasn’t for the lols it was because we needed all the recovery and cushioning to Stam + mag
Now we need to juggle damage sustain mitigation
Stamina? Runs 2 damage sets in heavy and sustains better, deals more damage, has more hp/resistances/healing
I had 6k weapon damage
28k resists
29k hp
3k impen
Deadly cloak 25% dmg aoe reduc
34k Stam
2.7k regen via enchant/passive/netch/constitution/
Base Regen
:thumbs up:
“Balance”
I don't really get why people still go for a high magicka pool (I'm considering 35k+ high, nowadays) Is it the effective damage you're after or the actual pool? My regen has to be around 2.2k unbuffed to make sth like a comfort zone. I am not a fan of a lich proc, either, I want base reg.
Really frustrating is tho, that we suffer from the low spell pen and spell dmg when aiming for both a) max stats sets like shackle b) defense like high resistances.
A sorc is now a support class with not much of a dps relevance. Even a glass cannon cannot burst the heavy meta. I've been on 21k spell penetration and have been frustrated pre-patch.
I get where the sorc hate came from. Casual playbase sees a streaking, shielded sorc, yells "cheater" and "nerf" simultaniosly and wonder why ppl argue "L2P"-wise ...
*** it
Even with 20k defense, it's so much difficult to stay alive compared to pre-patch
The biggest problem is Healing Ward. In no-CP I get a 3k tooltip even with those stats
It can scale up to 300%, but a 9k shield is the same I get from Hardened Ward. It's pointless
oxygen_thief wrote: »Even with 20k defense, it's so much difficult to stay alive compared to pre-patch
The biggest problem is Healing Ward. In no-CP I get a 3k tooltip even with those stats
It can scale up to 300%, but a 9k shield is the same I get from Hardened Ward. It's pointless
healing ward was useless even before the patch because of defile, oblivion damage and your injured teammates. i use dark conversion and tri stat potions for healing.
i think i will run my old setup but with little adjustments. i will add chudans head and more impen stead of infused.
https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=81158
@Aldul
Apparently you didn’t get the message yet my man. Sorc still OP because shields are „stronger“ and burst is „even better“, while Streak is a „stronk“ kiting tool now.
At least that’s what people who couldn’t beat a Sorc prior to update 20 will try to make you believe in here.