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Wuuffyy
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Since they are crit able and apply resistance, they are now just instant cast heals that happen to give you a chance to shield over your current max health with the overlying factor that your shields even with armor buffs have bad resistances too.
Edited by Wuuffyy on October 9, 2018 10:44PM
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  • Bergzorn
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    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).
    Edited by Bergzorn on October 10, 2018 7:53AM
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  • THE_BIG_BOSS
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    Shields are garbage in nerfmire :(
  • Kram8ion
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    A shield you say? What is this crutch shenanigans you speak of...

    Stamblade :o
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  • SHADOW2KK
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    Shields are for the weak, play stambuilds a while people:P
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  • Banana
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    Everyone just switch to stamina. Surely ZOS would then take the hint
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    Banana wrote: »
    Everyone just switch to stamina. Surely ZOS would then take the hint

    Hehe, I would not remotely be surprised if ZoS did not take the hint, sad but true.
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    Been taking heads since TeS 3 Morrowind..

    Been enjoying PvP tears since 2014

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    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Legendary Blades = Evil Ninja/Dueller = (StamBlade)
    LvL 50 - Sorcerer DC [PC-EU] = Daemon Lord = (Mag Sorc)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Khal-Bladez = (Mag DK)
    LvL 50 - Dragon Knight DC [PC-EU] = Tenakha Khan = (Stam DK)
    LvL 50 - Templar DC [PC-EU]] = Blades The Disgruntled = (Stamplar)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Ghost Blades = (Assassin)
    LvL 50 - Night Blade DC [PC-EU] = Malekith The Shadow = (Mag NB)
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    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!
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    I'm no biologist, but I don't think Argonians and Bosmers are immune to Minor and Major Defile.

    I guess you are talking about the poisoned status effect, which will work on wards with next patch.
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  • Feanor
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    @Bergzorn

    AFAIK Argonians and Wood Elves are immune to defiles that are applied through weapon enchantment procs (because they are - as you say - immune to the poisoned status), but not to those that are applied with abilities or set procs.
    Edited by Feanor on October 10, 2018 9:47AM
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  • Pastas
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.
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  • Nicko_Lps
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    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.

    How many run durok bane nowadays?

    Skills? Bash ok a few does.


    INCAP? Ofc mighty whineblades do, the exception of the exceptions.
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Don't worry, I am sure certain forum warriors will be here before long asking for defilable shields.
    I mean they are always complaining about shields and are currently crying about how weak stamina damage is in PvP.
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.

    How many run durok bane nowadays?

    Skills? Bash ok a few does.


    INCAP? Ofc mighty whineblades do, the exception of the exceptions.

    You are rigth, Bosmer and Argonian are inmune to defile and NBs are the only ones able to aply it.
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    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.

    How many run durok bane nowadays?

    Skills? Bash ok a few does.


    INCAP? Ofc mighty whineblades do, the exception of the exceptions.

    You are rigth, Bosmer and Argonian are inmune to defile and NBs are the only ones able to aply it.

    Sources of major defile:

    Dragonknight > Ardent Flame > Dragonknight Standard
    Nightblade > Assassination > Death Stroke
    Templar > Dawn's Wrath > Dark Flare
    Bow > Lethal Arrow
    One-Handed and Shield > Reverberating Bash
    Werewolf > Claws of Anguish
    Warden > Green Balance > Healing Seed
  • Pastas
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    ku5h wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.

    How many run durok bane nowadays?

    Skills? Bash ok a few does.


    INCAP? Ofc mighty whineblades do, the exception of the exceptions.

    You are rigth, Bosmer and Argonian are inmune to defile and NBs are the only ones able to aply it.

    Sources of major defile:

    Dragonknight > Ardent Flame > Dragonknight Standard
    Nightblade > Assassination > Death Stroke
    Templar > Dawn's Wrath > Dark Flare
    Bow > Lethal Arrow
    One-Handed and Shield > Reverberating Bash
    Werewolf > Claws of Anguish
    Warden > Green Balance > Healing Seed

    Yeah I know it (read the whole discussion) but that guy seems not to understand, I was trying to be sarcastic.
    We can add poisons to your list, it's minor defile but it's defile too
    Edited by Pastas on October 10, 2018 11:01AM
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  • Nicko_Lps
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    ku5h wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.

    How many run durok bane nowadays?

    Skills? Bash ok a few does.


    INCAP? Ofc mighty whineblades do, the exception of the exceptions.

    You are rigth, Bosmer and Argonian are inmune to defile and NBs are the only ones able to aply it.

    Sources of major defile:

    Dragonknight > Ardent Flame > Dragonknight Standard
    Nightblade > Assassination > Death Stroke
    Templar > Dawn's Wrath > Dark Flare
    Bow > Lethal Arrow
    One-Handed and Shield > Reverberating Bash
    Werewolf > Claws of Anguish
    Warden > Green Balance > Healing Seed

    Who will stand on a dragonknight standard?
    Who will stand on a templar ulti that defiles too, (you forgot that)
    Who will see templar cast dark flare and not roll?
    Who will sit on wardens seeds?
    Who will get lethal arrow while MIATS will beep you? If you dont have it installed its your problem

    Can u avoid bash? No, but most builds except stamDK's and stamSorcs removed bash as they stun with dawnbreaker.

    Can you avoid incap? You really can?
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    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ku5h wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.

    How many run durok bane nowadays?

    Skills? Bash ok a few does.


    INCAP? Ofc mighty whineblades do, the exception of the exceptions.

    You are rigth, Bosmer and Argonian are inmune to defile and NBs are the only ones able to aply it.

    Sources of major defile:

    Dragonknight > Ardent Flame > Dragonknight Standard
    Nightblade > Assassination > Death Stroke
    Templar > Dawn's Wrath > Dark Flare
    Bow > Lethal Arrow
    One-Handed and Shield > Reverberating Bash
    Werewolf > Claws of Anguish
    Warden > Green Balance > Healing Seed

    Who will stand on a dragonknight standard?
    Who will stand on a templar ulti that defiles too, (you forgot that)
    Who will see templar cast dark flare and not roll?
    Who will sit on wardens seeds?
    Who will get lethal arrow while MIATS will beep you? If you dont have it installed its your problem

    Can u avoid bash? No, but most builds except stamDK's and stamSorcs removed bash as they stun with dawnbreaker.

    Can you avoid incap? You really can?

    Not a single twisted argument you can elaborate will change the fact that bosmer and argonians are not inmune to defiles.

    PS: that templar ulti (it's called nova) provides major maim, not defile.
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  • Nicko_Lps
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    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    ku5h wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Pastas wrote: »
    Nicko_Lps wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    Heals can be amplified by buffs, they can crit and can bring you out of execute range. Shields can not be defiled (yet, lol).

    Argonians and Bosmers cant be defiled too and they are the most popular staminator race atm in cyrodiil.


    But hey, lets defile shields!
    Make the 10th in total nerf for shields because ppl cant L2P!

    Bosmer and argomians are not inmune to defiles, they are inmune to befouled status effect that procs major defile, but they can be defiled using skills or sets.

    How many run durok bane nowadays?

    Skills? Bash ok a few does.


    INCAP? Ofc mighty whineblades do, the exception of the exceptions.

    You are rigth, Bosmer and Argonian are inmune to defile and NBs are the only ones able to aply it.

    Sources of major defile:

    Dragonknight > Ardent Flame > Dragonknight Standard
    Nightblade > Assassination > Death Stroke
    Templar > Dawn's Wrath > Dark Flare
    Bow > Lethal Arrow
    One-Handed and Shield > Reverberating Bash
    Werewolf > Claws of Anguish
    Warden > Green Balance > Healing Seed

    Who will stand on a dragonknight standard?
    Who will stand on a templar ulti that defiles too, (you forgot that)
    Who will see templar cast dark flare and not roll?
    Who will sit on wardens seeds?
    Who will get lethal arrow while MIATS will beep you? If you dont have it installed its your problem

    Can u avoid bash? No, but most builds except stamDK's and stamSorcs removed bash as they stun with dawnbreaker.

    Can you avoid incap? You really can?

    Not a single twisted argument you can elaborate will change the fact that bosmer and argonians are not inmune to defiles.

    PS: that templar ulti (it's called nova) provides major maim, not defile.

    The main source of defile is decease damage+incap+bash.


    My twisted argument is: If 90% of cyro players where NOT argonians, i would run a decease glyph myself along endless many more magica players.


    THE TWISTING PATH WAY
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