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Does ZOS give youtubers and streamers free crowns/crates to open?
Hortator Indoril Nerevar
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I get the feeling ZOS gives content creators free crowns/crates to do opening videos/streams. I personally dont see anything wrong with that either but I have never heard the content creators say they have got anything for free (possibly because they didn't). I wanted to see if anyone else has thought this and what your opinions are. I bring this up because Alcast did a $500 crate opening on stream/youtube and I think it was on NA and not even EU.
Anyways like I said I dont think its bad if they do get free crowns/crates to do it but I have iffy feelings about it if they dont mention it to the people watching.
I have no problem with Alcast and the opening video was entertaining. Just thought I would cut off the "you are just a hater" comments before they happen.
If any officials from ZOS could either confirm or deny this that would be cool
Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on June 28, 2018 1:40PM Anyways like I said I dont think its bad if they do get free crowns/crates to do it but I have iffy feelings about it if they dont mention it to the people watching.
I have no problem with Alcast and the opening video was entertaining. Just thought I would cut off the "you are just a hater" comments before they happen.
If any officials from ZOS could either confirm or deny this that would be cool
Does ZOS give youtubers and streamers free crowns/crates to open? 56 votes
Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.
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No, I dont believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.
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✭No, I dont believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.I mean im a bigger content creator and never been given either... But then again Im known to be brutally honest about thd game e.g. garbage balance and lag, and zos geberally favours streamers that omly complimentYt Channell: Blobsky
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Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.I mean im a bigger content creator and never been given either... But then again Im known to be brutally honest about thd game e.g. garbage balance and lag, and zos geberally favours streamers that omly compliment
Oh thank you for answering. That is interesting and points towards "No" however I 100% agree with what you followed with (sadly).
Edit: I dont watch Alcast that much so cant be 100% sure but I think he has commented pretty harshly before as well. So its looking more like a "no". In saying that I would still like an official reply on this. Just out of curiosity.
Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on June 28, 2018 1:54PM0 -
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Very unlikely this is true, as it would land both the creator and ZoS in quite a bit of hot water as it's required by law to disclose endorsements when reviewing products (in the US).Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I get the feeling ZOS gives content creators free crowns/crates to do opening videos/streams.
Alcast is a popular channel and streaming site, so it's more likely he purchased the crates with his own money.
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Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.
Very unlikely this is true, as it would land both the creator and ZoS in quite a bit of hot water as it's required by law to disclose endorsements when reviewing products (in the US).Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I get the feeling ZOS gives content creators free crowns/crates to do opening videos/streams.
Alcast is a popular channel and streaming site, so it's more likely he purchased the crates with his own money.
Yea I have a small channel of 6000 subs and know about the rules on youtube in which you need to let the audience know of any sponsors but was also unsure if a virtual crown/crate would fall under the same rules.
Just curious
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I dont believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.There's a significant difference between re-investing earnings into your platform and using sponsored content.
Most creators know to scale their productions to their budgets. So in the absence of the "includes paid promotion" notification, it's either that the creator feels that spending $X on a piece of content is beneficial in some way to their overall bottom line or they've decided that $X is just an acceptable amount of hobby income to spend.signing off0 -
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✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.There's a significant difference between re-investing earnings into your platform and using sponsored content.
Most creators know to scale their productions to their budgets. So in the absence of the "includes paid promotion" notification, it's either that the creator feels that spending $X on a piece of content is beneficial in some way to their overall bottom line or they've decided that $X is just an acceptable amount of hobby income to spend.
In saying that $500 is on avg around 250,000 views on youtube to recoup or 200 subs on twitch for a month (avgs).
Pretty big tbh.
(Edit: Corrected maths)Edited by Hortator Indoril Nerevar on June 28, 2018 2:27PM0 -
ol_BANK_lo✭✭✭✭✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I get the feeling ZOS gives content creators free crowns/crates to do opening videos/streams. I personally dont see anything wrong with that either but I have never heard the content creators say they have got anything for free (possibly because they didn't). I wanted to see if anyone else has thought this and what your opinions are. I bring this up because Alcast did a $500 crate opening on stream/youtube and I think it was on NA and not even EU.
Anyways like I said I dont think its bad if they do get free crowns/crates to do it but I have iffy feelings about it if they dont mention it to the people watching.
I have no problem with Alcast and the opening video was entertaining. Just thought I would cut off the "you are just a hater" comments before they happen.
If any officials from ZOS could either confirm or deny this that would be cool
This really shouldn't be a vote. It's not an opinion. Either people know something or they don't. Blobs would know as well as anyone. But who cares if they did? Game devs give things out to popular streamers all the time. If you want free stuff, become a big streamer or YouTuber. GL.4 -
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✭No idea about crown crates, but some streamers were given Morrowind free. (no idea about Summerset I very rarely watch streams anymore)0 -
Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »I get the feeling ZOS gives content creators free crowns/crates to do opening videos/streams. I personally dont see anything wrong with that either but I have never heard the content creators say they have got anything for free (possibly because they didn't). I wanted to see if anyone else has thought this and what your opinions are. I bring this up because Alcast did a $500 crate opening on stream/youtube and I think it was on NA and not even EU.
Anyways like I said I dont think its bad if they do get free crowns/crates to do it but I have iffy feelings about it if they dont mention it to the people watching.
I have no problem with Alcast and the opening video was entertaining. Just thought I would cut off the "you are just a hater" comments before they happen.
If any officials from ZOS could either confirm or deny this that would be cool
This really shouldn't be a vote. It's not an opinion. Either people know something or they don't. Blobs would know as well as anyone. But who cares if they did? Game devs give things out to popular streamers all the time. If you want free stuff, become a big streamer or YouTuber. GL.
This is an opinion.
Correct, people do or dont know. Thus why I asked officials and made an opinion vote using words like "believe" instead of "I know".
Correct, he would know more but not know for sure and thats also what he said.
I never said I wanted free stuff. Stop projecting.
I have a humble 6000 subs and almost 2M views on youtube. In no way is this related to me wanting free things or hating on other content creators. I clearly say that in the post and even use a few sentences to try and avoid this kind of comments haha.. jesus christ haha.
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✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »And gear.
I dont think that would be the case (I may be missing the joke completing, sorry).0 -
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✭✭No, I dont believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.People sub to Alcasts channel and he uses a portion of those subs to buy stuff like crates. He is also often gifted crates from other players, now that you can do so.Far too many characters to list any more.0 -
huschdeguddzje✭✭✭✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.I mean im a bigger content creator and never been given either... But then again Im known to be brutally honest about thd game e.g. garbage balance and lag, and zos geberally favours streamers that omly compliment
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PouletRico✭✭✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.I think they do, but in a more subtle way. Alcast said during his 24h stream that ZOS gave his Twitch channel a higher drop rate (for the twitch crates), for me it goes into the "Yes" answer. However, ZOS is not giving things to content creators, but to their community.@PouletRico - EU PC Megaserver
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Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.PouletRico wrote: »I think they do, but in a more subtle way. Alcast said during his 24h stream that ZOS gave his Twitch channel a higher drop rate (for the twitch crates), for me it goes into the "Yes" answer. However, ZOS is not giving things to content creators, but to their community.
Surely he was joking if he said that. I could see them giving crowns and crates away so people make content on the crates and maybe seeing that will bring in some money for ZOS but to raise the chances for the stream? Surely not. Maybe he was joking?
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PouletRico✭✭✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »PouletRico wrote: »I think they do, but in a more subtle way. Alcast said during his 24h stream that ZOS gave his Twitch channel a higher drop rate (for the twitch crates), for me it goes into the "Yes" answer. However, ZOS is not giving things to content creators, but to their community.
Surely he was joking if he said that. I could see them giving crowns and crates away so people make content on the crates and maybe seeing that will bring in some money for ZOS but to raise the chances for the stream? Surely not. Maybe he was joking?
No, he was not joking. https://clips.twitch.tv/FamousAuspiciousMosquitoDoritosChipEdited by PouletRico on June 28, 2018 3:30PM@PouletRico - EU PC Megaserver
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Hortator Indoril Nerevar✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.PouletRico wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »PouletRico wrote: »I think they do, but in a more subtle way. Alcast said during his 24h stream that ZOS gave his Twitch channel a higher drop rate (for the twitch crates), for me it goes into the "Yes" answer. However, ZOS is not giving things to content creators, but to their community.
Surely he was joking if he said that. I could see them giving crowns and crates away so people make content on the crates and maybe seeing that will bring in some money for ZOS but to raise the chances for the stream? Surely not. Maybe he was joking?
No, he was not joking. https://clips.twitch.tv/FamousAuspiciousMosquitoDoritosChip
I believe he was saying that the chance of getting crates from watching was increased. Not his drop chances of items in the crates.2 -
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✭I mean im a bigger content creator and never been given either... But then again Im known to be brutally honest about thd game e.g. garbage balance and lag, and zos geberally favours streamers that omly compliment
I read your typo on generally as gerbilally...made for a good laugh.Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
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PouletRico✭✭✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »PouletRico wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »PouletRico wrote: »I think they do, but in a more subtle way. Alcast said during his 24h stream that ZOS gave his Twitch channel a higher drop rate (for the twitch crates), for me it goes into the "Yes" answer. However, ZOS is not giving things to content creators, but to their community.
Surely he was joking if he said that. I could see them giving crowns and crates away so people make content on the crates and maybe seeing that will bring in some money for ZOS but to raise the chances for the stream? Surely not. Maybe he was joking?
No, he was not joking. https://clips.twitch.tv/FamousAuspiciousMosquitoDoritosChip
I believe he was saying that the chance of getting crates from watching was increased. Not his drop chances of items in the crates.
No, what I was saying (and Alcast is saying I guess) is that viewers on the Alcast's stream have more chance to receive a free crates (you know, twitch drops). Item's drop rate from the crate stay the same, you just have more chance to actually receive a crate.
EDIT: Yeah, my first message is not very clear, but that what I was sayingEdited by PouletRico on June 28, 2018 3:39PM@PouletRico - EU PC Megaserver
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NupidStoob✭✭✭✭✭No, I dont believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.Alcast makes a ton of money from his website, youtube and twitch. Randomly paying 500$ for crates won't hurt him in the slightest.1
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I dont believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.LOL. like a forum poll can answer the question.0 -
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✭Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
That moment when your phone auto corrects "global warming" to "gerbil warming"...Zaghigoth- Orc Stamplar
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✭✭✭✭✭No, I dont believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.PouletRico wrote: »I think they do, but in a more subtle way. Alcast said during his 24h stream that ZOS gave his Twitch channel a higher drop rate (for the twitch crates), for me it goes into the "Yes" answer. However, ZOS is not giving things to content creators, but to their community.
He didn't say anything about a change in the drop rate. The increase would come from the longer duration of the stream. You'd have 23 more hours of a chance reward relative to a 1 hour stream.signing off0 -
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✭Yes, I believe they are giving free crowns/crates to content creators.Yes certain content creators get special perks like a limited amount of crowns, crown store items(dlcs) and even chapters. I know this cause i am one of them. You can find me on twitch by the same as my forum name. Myself and most of the others who are part of the sponsored ESO twitch streamer program have been very open about this. Certain content creators also receive more stuff then others. Non of this is secret information nor is it meant to be hush-hush. Also the amount of stuff they give us to for personal use is tiny in comparison to the amount of stuff they are giving us to giveaway to help push the game.
Interesting. Thank you for your responseLOL. like a forum poll can answer the question.
I hope your day gets better. Genuinely.usmguy1234 wrote: »Hortator Indoril Nerevar wrote: »
That moment when your phone auto corrects "global warming" to "gerbil warming"...
LOLPouletRico wrote: »I think they do, but in a more subtle way. Alcast said during his 24h stream that ZOS gave his Twitch channel a higher drop rate (for the twitch crates), for me it goes into the "Yes" answer. However, ZOS is not giving things to content creators, but to their community.
He didn't say anything about a change in the drop rate. The increase would come from the longer duration of the stream. You'd have 23 more hours of a chance reward relative to a 1 hour stream.
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