Ice builds aren't totally dead, don't let there people fool you. Is it not s s good as flame staff? Yeah, but you can still play ad get so kills. I totally recommend getting winterborn though I run a build using it with asylums ice staff in my magblade. On group play it's great, zone control, and snares for days plus chilled effect gives minor maim
Is really so bad?
i mean with my magicka DK i destroy, but i was thinking that i would not mind to sacrifice some damage for try something new/ different, that maybe it compensates the lack of damage with something else of utility.
But if that is not even also the case, then i don't know... :-/ is a little bit sad... really is so bad? no competitive builds at all?
IZZEFlameLash wrote: »Is really so bad?
i mean with my magicka DK i destroy, but i was thinking that i would not mind to sacrifice some damage for try something new/ different, that maybe it compensates the lack of damage with something else of utility.
But if that is not even also the case, then i don't know... :-/ is a little bit sad... really is so bad? no competitive builds at all?
It is not competitive unfortunately. You can have fun playing 'annoy your enemy' game but you will find yourself mostly dead because ice mage spec is very much weak compared to just regular mWarden builds. Ice lacks damage. If you want to really play that ice mage, you are better off going Healthden really.
IZZEFlameLash wrote: »It is not competitive unfortunately. You can have fun playing 'annoy your enemy' game but you will find yourself mostly dead because ice mage spec is very much weak compared to just regular mWarden builds. Ice lacks damage. If you want to really play that ice mage, you are better off going Healthden really.
arkansas_ESO wrote: »Ice-focused Warden=tank focused Warden, sadly. You can stack max health and magic recovery to get the most out of your Winter's Embrace skills, but for the most part you're just a debuff tank.
Ice builds aren't totally dead, don't let there people fool you. Is it not s s good as flame staff? Yeah, but you can still play ad get so kills. I totally recommend getting winterborn though I run a build using it with asylums ice staff in my magblade. On group play it's great, zone control, and snares for days plus chilled effect gives minor maim
I was looking this set and seems pretty nice. What other set can you suggest me to combine? Lich set?
So I just switched from mag warden to stam warden.
Honest opinion so far:
Stam warden is WAY stronger than mag warden.... but mag warden is more fun. Stam warden just feels like a offshoot of a stam dk to be honest, while mag warden has a whole complete new and fresh feel.
I kinda want to switch back to mag warden even though I would only have to stick with groups
I'm absolutely loving my MagWarden in the BGs at the moment. Not the highest damage build by any means but so much group utility and support. It's a force multiplier as someone said. If your group happens to have 1 or 2 good players that know how to play with a support build you become sooo potent. Survivability is excellent if you learn to not faceplant into premade groups. And AoE damage is very good too.
- Light armor, 5L-1M-1H.
- 5 x Wiz Riposte on both bars (necklace , shoes, legs, gloves and waist)
- 5 x Durok on back bar (2x Arachnoid rings, chest and a decisive Resto)
- 2 x Pirate Skeleton (1L, 1M)
- 1 x Infused Master's Ice staff
...also
- All armor traits Impen, or alternatively 2 Infused on chest and legs.
- Tri-stat glyphs on big pieces. Magicka glyphs on the small pieces.
- Mag Regen on all jewellery, preferrably one infused
- Tri-stat food
- Vampirism
My bars look like this:
Your Frost Wall and Frost Reach snare and root people to [snip]. Even outside of your Northern Storm ult. They are caught in a snowstorm while being Maimed and Defiled and wasting resources trying to get out.
With Northern Storm and Pirate Skeleton you have extremely high up-time on Major Protection and 100% up-time on minor Protection through Ice Fortress. I can tell you how many times you will drop to 15-20% HP and you just can't die because the combination of Minor Maim, Major/Minor Protection and Undeath (vamp passive) means you take practically no damage.
Meanwhile you pack quite a bit of punch in unblockable AoE damage and enchant procs while your sustain is pretty good, especially if you are Argonian. I'll try to post a vid later if I can
So I just switched from mag warden to stam warden.
Honest opinion so far:
Stam warden is WAY stronger than mag warden.... but mag warden is more fun. Stam warden just feels like a offshoot of a stam dk to be honest, while mag warden has a whole complete new and fresh feel.
I kinda want to switch back to mag warden even though I would only have to stick with groups
sounds like you need some cleavage on ur stamden my dude.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzv7JDl0djM&t=325s
I'm absolutely loving my MagWarden in the BGs at the moment. Not the highest damage build by any means but so much group utility and support. It's a force multiplier as someone said. If your group happens to have 1 or 2 good players that know how to play with a support build you become sooo potent. Survivability is excellent if you learn to not faceplant into premade groups. And AoE damage is very good too.
- Light armor, 5L-1M-1H.
- 5 x Wiz Riposte on both bars (necklace , shoes, legs, gloves and waist)
- 5 x Durok on back bar (2x Arachnoid rings, chest and a decisive Resto)
- 2 x Pirate Skeleton (1L, 1M)
- 1 x Infused Master's Ice staff
...also
- All armor traits Impen, or alternatively 2 Infused on chest and legs.
- Tri-stat glyphs on big pieces. Magicka glyphs on the small pieces.
- Mag Regen on all jewellery, preferrably one infused
- Tri-stat food
- Vampirism
My bars look like this:
Your Frost Wall and Frost Reach snare and root people to [snip]. Even outside of your Northern Storm ult. They are caught in a snowstorm while being Maimed and Defiled and wasting resources trying to get out.
With Northern Storm and Pirate Skeleton you have extremely high up-time on Major Protection and 100% up-time on minor Protection through Ice Fortress. I can tell you how many times you will drop to 15-20% HP and you just can't die because the combination of Minor Maim, Major/Minor Protection and Undeath (vamp passive) means you take practically no damage.
Meanwhile you pack quite a bit of punch in unblockable AoE damage and enchant procs while your sustain is pretty good, especially if you are Argonian. I'll try to post a vid later if I can
I know I'm quoting my self but this in related to the build I posted. I said I'd link a quick vid, so here goes. Just a quick 10-minute deathmatch from yesterday, grabbing the daily random reward.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMGV1BOqjr0
Waffennacht wrote: »Skoria
Winterborn
Sload/caluurion (probably wanna pick sload)
Blockade, Shalk, Reach, Dampen, Imbue - N. Storm (or comet)
Betty, Healing Ward, bird o pretty, flex spots, panacea
I like that
I will disagree with many of the comments here, because after my experience with both types of builds tanking/utility and damage/utility I have to say that damage utility is the one I love most in bgs and I cannot really understand how the general mentality and conception of mostly have of warden icemage is being tanky.
I will tell you that the perfect build is monster set + offensive set + defensive set. 5 light's and two heavy (big parts). If you want to Know more send me a private message.
In the last time is very unusual for me to lose a battleground due to this powerful build.