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Why isn't anyone talking about Sload?

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I doubt it'll be nerfed before live. This set is just so good for PvP.

I mean shield breaker gets tons of threads. I feel this is breaker on roids.

Sload:

Sload’s Semblance
2 – 1096 Maximum Magicka
3 – 1096 Maximum Stamina
4 – 129 Spell Damage
4 – 129 Weapon Damage
5 – Damaging an enemy has a 10% chance to put a Leeching Shadow on them, dealing 853 Oblivion Damage every 1 second for 6 seconds. This effect can occur every 6 seconds.

So it's an easy to trigger proc. It's damage is Oblivion meaning right off the bat it's damage tip is comparable to Overwhelming Surge.

It's unresistable, goes under Shields, is a dot (oh love them triggers)

the damage is Oblivion, it will not be reduced by BS or Resistance or Shields, the value equivalent of 1700 damage tooltip

The 2-4 bonus are really good as well.

I instantly fell in love with this set. When that happens it's usually called OP
Edited by Waffennacht on April 30, 2018 2:05AM
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  • WuffyCerulei
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    It'll hit like 400 damage with battle spirit, and that's easily out-healable. That's probably why people aren't too concerned.
    Edited by WuffyCerulei on April 30, 2018 2:03AM
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  • Waffennacht
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    It'll hit like 400 damage, and that's easily out-healable. That's probably why people aren't too concerned.

    It's Oblivion damage buddy! It won't be reduced by Battle Spirit nor armor nor Shields.

    It's tooltip in PvP is the equivalent of 1700 before % mods.

    I tried to express that in the OP. I'll edit it to be more clear
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  • Sixty5
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    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.
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  • Thogard
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    >implying someone can't use both
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  • Waffennacht
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    2k against only shield users (a big drawback say against Stam NB)

    It'll do about 1k Oblivion damage per sec with 90% up time

    And on PTS takes peeps outta cloak

    Edit: remember when everyone thought acuity sucked because of how the numbers made it look "small"?

    It's a better overwhelming surge for PvP

    Let me math it up a bit -

    Because it's Oblivion damage, in PvP, the base value damage is equivalent to 1700 dmg per sec.

    But because it's Oblivion damage, it also ignores armor resistance, so unless you're fully penetrating your opponent, the value is above 1700. Approximately 4%-25% (higher end means most your damage would come from this, say against a permablocker theoretically) but probably just 4%. Meaning it's equivalent value is that of 1800ish damage per second.

    If you saw a set with those 2-4 bonus and had a 10% chance on ANY kind of damage to deal 1800 damage per sec for 6 sec with only a 6 sec cool down you wouldn't like it? Yes you would, and this is as good or better
    Edited by Waffennacht on April 30, 2018 2:32AM
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  • Solariken
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    It seems fairly balanced to me, I'm more excited about the 2-4 bonuses honestly. I love the hybrid flavor.

    The vast majority of the other sets coming in Summerset are utter garbage though, just be glad this one isn't.



  • Vaoh
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    I only care if this set can stack with itself. If it does that’d be OP asf.

    If not, it’s just another strong tool for Xv1, especially vs Magicka builds (mainly Sorc).
  • Minno
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    Solariken wrote: »
    It seems fairly balanced to me, I'm more excited about the 2-4 bonuses honestly. I love the hybrid flavor.

    The vast majority of the other sets coming in Summerset are utter garbage though, just be glad this one isn't.



    Fairly balanced to me as well. People forget thick skin will provide legit x% mitigation (assuming most builds don't use projection buffs as well.).

    Plus I assume it won't proc if you can't damage with other damage on a shield or that DMG gets dodged lol.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Minno wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    It seems fairly balanced to me, I'm more excited about the 2-4 bonuses honestly. I love the hybrid flavor.

    The vast majority of the other sets coming in Summerset are utter garbage though, just be glad this one isn't.



    Fairly balanced to me as well. People forget thick skin will provide legit x% mitigation (assuming most builds don't use projection buffs as well.).

    Plus I assume it won't proc if you can't damage with other damage on a shield or that DMG gets dodged lol.

    @Minno

    All things that proc on damage proc when hitting a shield
    Edited by Waffennacht on April 30, 2018 2:33AM
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  • Vaoh
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    Minno wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    It seems fairly balanced to me, I'm more excited about the 2-4 bonuses honestly. I love the hybrid flavor.

    The vast majority of the other sets coming in Summerset are utter garbage though, just be glad this one isn't.



    Fairly balanced to me as well. People forget thick skin will provide legit x% mitigation (assuming most builds don't use projection buffs as well.).

    Plus I assume it won't proc if you can't damage with other damage on a shield or that DMG gets dodged lol.

    Oblivion Damage is not mitigated by anything. Not even Battle Spirit, CPs, etc.
  • Sixty5
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    Thogard wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    >implying someone can't use both

    >Implying the only person you'll ever be killing is a Mag sorc doing nothing but spamming ward
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    2k against only shield users (a big drawback say against Stam NB)

    It'll do about 1k Oblivion damage per sec with 90% up time

    And on PTS takes peeps outta cloak

    Edit: remember when everyone thought acuity sucked because of how the numbers made it look "small"?

    It's a better overwhelming surge for PvP

    Let me math it up a bit -

    Because it's Oblivion damage, in PvP, the base value damage is equivalent to 1700 dmg per sec.

    But because it's Oblivion damage, it also ignores armor resistance, so unless you're fully penetrating your opponent, the value is above 1700. Approximately 4%-25% (higher end means most your damage would come from this, say against a permablocker theoretically) but probably just 4%. Meaning it's equivalent value is that of 1800ish damage per second.

    If you saw a set with those 2-4 bonus and had a 10% chance on ANY kind of damage to deal 1800 damage per sec for 6 sec with only a 6 sec cool down you wouldn't like it? Yes you would, and this is as good or better

    The issue I have is that sets that deal smaller DOT effects like this one are more or less a flat reduction in opponent healing, rather than damage.
    And I am not saying that having access to that isn't strong. Between Defile and this set you could pretty much fully negate a vigor on a low-crit build.

    My point is more that if I want Obilivion damage, I'd rather give up a weapon trait and enchant rather than a full 5 piece set.
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  • Waffennacht
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Thogard wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    >implying someone can't use both

    >Implying the only person you'll ever be killing is a Mag sorc doing nothing but spamming ward
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    2k against only shield users (a big drawback say against Stam NB)

    It'll do about 1k Oblivion damage per sec with 90% up time

    And on PTS takes peeps outta cloak

    Edit: remember when everyone thought acuity sucked because of how the numbers made it look "small"?

    It's a better overwhelming surge for PvP

    Let me math it up a bit -

    Because it's Oblivion damage, in PvP, the base value damage is equivalent to 1700 dmg per sec.

    But because it's Oblivion damage, it also ignores armor resistance, so unless you're fully penetrating your opponent, the value is above 1700. Approximately 4%-25% (higher end means most your damage would come from this, say against a permablocker theoretically) but probably just 4%. Meaning it's equivalent value is that of 1800ish damage per second.

    If you saw a set with those 2-4 bonus and had a 10% chance on ANY kind of damage to deal 1800 damage per sec for 6 sec with only a 6 sec cool down you wouldn't like it? Yes you would, and this is as good or better

    The issue I have is that sets that deal smaller DOT effects like this one are more or less a flat reduction in opponent healing, rather than damage.
    And I am not saying that having access to that isn't strong. Between Defile and this set you could pretty much fully negate a vigor on a low-crit build.

    My point is more that if I want Obilivion damage, I'd rather give up a weapon trait and enchant rather than a full 5 piece set.

    Well infused Oblivion + this, is hella strong for a finish.

    Personally I'm also pairing it with at least skoria and probably Caluurion on my Sorc.

    Using the sload for (as you say pressure on heals) and helping proc skoria

    With Caluurion + Curse to apply burst on command.

    Using Pulse and Imbue for instant abilities.

    That's all the pressure and burst you need with the best execute in game
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  • Vaoh
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    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Thogard wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    >implying someone can't use both

    >Implying the only person you'll ever be killing is a Mag sorc doing nothing but spamming ward
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    2k against only shield users (a big drawback say against Stam NB)

    It'll do about 1k Oblivion damage per sec with 90% up time

    And on PTS takes peeps outta cloak

    Edit: remember when everyone thought acuity sucked because of how the numbers made it look "small"?

    It's a better overwhelming surge for PvP

    Let me math it up a bit -

    Because it's Oblivion damage, in PvP, the base value damage is equivalent to 1700 dmg per sec.

    But because it's Oblivion damage, it also ignores armor resistance, so unless you're fully penetrating your opponent, the value is above 1700. Approximately 4%-25% (higher end means most your damage would come from this, say against a permablocker theoretically) but probably just 4%. Meaning it's equivalent value is that of 1800ish damage per second.

    If you saw a set with those 2-4 bonus and had a 10% chance on ANY kind of damage to deal 1800 damage per sec for 6 sec with only a 6 sec cool down you wouldn't like it? Yes you would, and this is as good or better

    The issue I have is that sets that deal smaller DOT effects like this one are more or less a flat reduction in opponent healing, rather than damage.
    And I am not saying that having access to that isn't strong. Between Defile and this set you could pretty much fully negate a vigor on a low-crit build.

    My point is more that if I want Obilivion damage, I'd rather give up a weapon trait and enchant rather than a full 5 piece set.

    Well infused Oblivion + this, is hella strong for a finish.

    Personally I'm also pairing it with at least skoria and probably Caluurion on my Sorc.

    Using the sload for (as you say pressure on heals) and helping proc skoria

    With Caluurion + Curse to apply burst on command.

    Using Pulse and Imbue for instant abilities.

    That's all the pressure and burst you need with the best execute in game

    So many procs. PvP was a lot better when skills determined outcomes rather than how many procs are cast on you. There’s a good reason why everyone wanted Viper’s Sting nerfed after One Tamriel.
  • Emma_Overload
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    Why isn't anyone talking about Sload?

    This makes me want to cry! :'(

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/409692/sloads-semblance-aka-shield-breaker-2-0-should-be-magicka-only#latest

    @Waffennacht Sload's is even worse than you think. Watch the @Alcast video linked in my thread. The tooltip gets even higher with CP, and it procs on all damage. Uptime is almost 100%!
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  • Lexxypwns
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    Sload Duroks Zaan...
  • Waffennacht
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Thogard wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    >implying someone can't use both

    >Implying the only person you'll ever be killing is a Mag sorc doing nothing but spamming ward
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    2k against only shield users (a big drawback say against Stam NB)

    It'll do about 1k Oblivion damage per sec with 90% up time

    And on PTS takes peeps outta cloak

    Edit: remember when everyone thought acuity sucked because of how the numbers made it look "small"?

    It's a better overwhelming surge for PvP

    Let me math it up a bit -

    Because it's Oblivion damage, in PvP, the base value damage is equivalent to 1700 dmg per sec.

    But because it's Oblivion damage, it also ignores armor resistance, so unless you're fully penetrating your opponent, the value is above 1700. Approximately 4%-25% (higher end means most your damage would come from this, say against a permablocker theoretically) but probably just 4%. Meaning it's equivalent value is that of 1800ish damage per second.

    If you saw a set with those 2-4 bonus and had a 10% chance on ANY kind of damage to deal 1800 damage per sec for 6 sec with only a 6 sec cool down you wouldn't like it? Yes you would, and this is as good or better

    The issue I have is that sets that deal smaller DOT effects like this one are more or less a flat reduction in opponent healing, rather than damage.
    And I am not saying that having access to that isn't strong. Between Defile and this set you could pretty much fully negate a vigor on a low-crit build.

    My point is more that if I want Obilivion damage, I'd rather give up a weapon trait and enchant rather than a full 5 piece set.

    Well infused Oblivion + this, is hella strong for a finish.

    Personally I'm also pairing it with at least skoria and probably Caluurion on my Sorc.

    Using the sload for (as you say pressure on heals) and helping proc skoria

    With Caluurion + Curse to apply burst on command.

    Using Pulse and Imbue for instant abilities.

    That's all the pressure and burst you need with the best execute in game

    So many procs. PvP was a lot better when skills determined outcomes rather than how many procs are cast on you. There’s a good reason why everyone wanted Viper’s Sting nerfed after One Tamriel.

    Yeah, but people talk @#$& when you go with more original ideas. And I gotta make up for bein in PuGs against premades.

    Sload, Skoria Cal

    Nirn front with double dmg poisons

    Wrath Curse imbue, hardened, reach (frost staff) meteor

    Power Surge, streak/mist form/boundless/dampen magic (depending on format), meditate, healing ward, rune cage, Panacea

    = Pwnage

    Edit: infused Oblivion dmg backbar, so when you weave the cage you blast em with that (LA, cage, swap)
    Edited by Waffennacht on April 30, 2018 3:38AM
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  • Darkmage1337
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Thogard wrote: »
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    >implying someone can't use both

    >Implying the only person you'll ever be killing is a Mag sorc doing nothing but spamming ward
    Sixty5 wrote: »
    Shield breaker is over 2k oblivion damage every light attack. This set requires a proc and deals a pretty small amount of damage overall.

    Infused Oblivion enchant is probably more DPS than this.

    2k against only shield users (a big drawback say against Stam NB)

    It'll do about 1k Oblivion damage per sec with 90% up time

    And on PTS takes peeps outta cloak

    Edit: remember when everyone thought acuity sucked because of how the numbers made it look "small"?

    It's a better overwhelming surge for PvP

    Let me math it up a bit -

    Because it's Oblivion damage, in PvP, the base value damage is equivalent to 1700 dmg per sec.

    But because it's Oblivion damage, it also ignores armor resistance, so unless you're fully penetrating your opponent, the value is above 1700. Approximately 4%-25% (higher end means most your damage would come from this, say against a permablocker theoretically) but probably just 4%. Meaning it's equivalent value is that of 1800ish damage per second.

    If you saw a set with those 2-4 bonus and had a 10% chance on ANY kind of damage to deal 1800 damage per sec for 6 sec with only a 6 sec cool down you wouldn't like it? Yes you would, and this is as good or better

    The issue I have is that sets that deal smaller DOT effects like this one are more or less a flat reduction in opponent healing, rather than damage.
    And I am not saying that having access to that isn't strong. Between Defile and this set you could pretty much fully negate a vigor on a low-crit build.

    My point is more that if I want Obilivion damage, I'd rather give up a weapon trait and enchant rather than a full 5 piece set.

    Well infused Oblivion + this, is hella strong for a finish.

    Personally I'm also pairing it with at least skoria and probably Caluurion on my Sorc.

    Using the sload for (as you say pressure on heals) and helping proc skoria

    With Caluurion + Curse to apply burst on command.

    Using Pulse and Imbue for instant abilities.

    That's all the pressure and burst you need with the best execute in game

    So many procs. PvP was a lot better when skills determined outcomes rather than how many procs are cast on you. There’s a good reason why everyone wanted Viper’s Sting nerfed after One Tamriel.

    But seriously. So much this.
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  • Thogard
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    Why isn't anyone talking about Sload?

    This makes me want to cry! :'(

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/409692/sloads-semblance-aka-shield-breaker-2-0-should-be-magicka-only#latest

    @Waffennacht Sload's is even worse than you think. Watch the @Alcast video linked in my thread. The tooltip gets even higher with CP, and it procs on all damage. Uptime is almost 100%!

    Oblivion damage TOOLTIPS scale with CP, but the actual damage done does not.
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  • NBrookus
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    Sloads is way over the top. It's not situational damage like Shield Breaker, or damage you have to focus a build toward like Skoria. Uptime will be near 100% and it will work against every build out there.
  • Qbiken
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    Thogard wrote: »
    Why isn't anyone talking about Sload?

    This makes me want to cry! :'(

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/409692/sloads-semblance-aka-shield-breaker-2-0-should-be-magicka-only#latest

    @Waffennacht Sload's is even worse than you think. Watch the @Alcast video linked in my thread. The tooltip gets even higher with CP, and it procs on all damage. Uptime is almost 100%!

    Oblivion damage TOOLTIPS scale with CP, but the actual damage done does not.

    Yep, shieldbreaker tooltip get´s increased by Master-At-arms but the actual damage is no different.
  • Vapirko
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    This is going straight onto my dot Stam Sorc. Hurricane, sloads, rending slashes, axe bleed, gg.
  • Joy_Division
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    Not convinced this is better than Overwhelming Surge.

    Even allowing for the 1700 theoretical tooltip, Overwhelming Surge still beats it.

    Surge also procs concussion, reveals NBs, will have a higher up-time and better 2-4 stats (at least for magicka builds).

    The two advantages Sload's has is the damage follows a target and thus better for a range build (but it can be purge I'm guessing) and targets cant mitigate it by mist form and such.

    It's close and I'll try Sload's. Or at least I would as it is on the PTS. If it gets nerfed, couldn't care less.
  • Waffennacht
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    @Joy_Division it also reveals NBs, as it's Oblivion damage, I don't believe it can be surpressed
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  • Biro123
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    I'm not convinced that its too strong on its own..

    Equivalent to a 1800 per sec tooltip you say?

    The current viper lists 7800 over 4 seconds = 1950 per sec tooltip. 100% chance to proc and can be constantly up. But then again, its only melee, and doesn't go through shields.

    I'm not especially worried about Sloads on its own - but I am worried about it being combined with other oblivion sets. There are people out there who absolutely detest sorcs, use shieldbreaker/infused oblivion and chase down/tbag sorcs every chance they get. I can pretty much guarantee you that there new build will include also add Sloads..

    But then, there may be those who don't like the downsides of shieldbreaker and simply switch it for sloads.....

    Hard to say if overall it would be a bad thing or not..



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    Biro123 wrote: »
    I'm not convinced that its too strong on its own..

    Equivalent to a 1800 per sec tooltip you say?

    The current viper lists 7800 over 4 seconds = 1950 per sec tooltip. 100% chance to proc and can be constantly up. But then again, its only melee, and doesn't go through shields.

    I'm not especially worried about Sloads on its own - but I am worried about it being combined with other oblivion sets. There are people out there who absolutely detest sorcs, use shieldbreaker/infused oblivion and chase down/tbag sorcs every chance they get. I can pretty much guarantee you that there new build will include also add Sloads..

    But then, there may be those who don't like the downsides of shieldbreaker and simply switch it for sloads.....

    Hard to say if overall it would be a bad thing or not..



    Well I do get tempted sometimes to equip my shieldbreaker cheese when I see 20k HP sorcs running around with an additional 20k shields.......So far I´ve managed not to do so....but I can understand why some people do it to be honest :/
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    Surge is still superior, that is all.

    Surge is actually buffed by CP, damage buffs, and opponents debuffs so on the builds likely to get the most benefit from slaps surge should perform better.

    Plus, that huge aoe reveal...
    Edited by Lexxypwns on April 30, 2018 10:37AM
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    Well, it will be OK. But it think it will be just that. OK.

    As you mention yourself, it is roughly comparable to Surge. And while Surge is very powerful, it still has the problem of not delivering burst. And it is by now pretty proven, that Procsets with burst damage, achieves kills far easier (Skoria, Caluurion etc.). If this set was 4K Oblivion with a 6-7 sec. cooldown, i would be ALL over this thing.

    IF you are going to use this, i would recommend going all in on the design. Combine it with KnightSlayer and/or Torugs with Oblivion Enchants to focus on that unresistable damage.
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    Vaoh wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    It seems fairly balanced to me, I'm more excited about the 2-4 bonuses honestly. I love the hybrid flavor.

    The vast majority of the other sets coming in Summerset are utter garbage though, just be glad this one isn't.



    Fairly balanced to me as well. People forget thick skin will provide legit x% mitigation (assuming most builds don't use projection buffs as well.).

    Plus I assume it won't proc if you can't damage with other damage on a shield or that DMG gets dodged lol.

    Oblivion Damage is not mitigated by anything. Not even Battle Spirit, CPs, etc.
    Vaoh wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    Solariken wrote: »
    It seems fairly balanced to me, I'm more excited about the 2-4 bonuses honestly. I love the hybrid flavor.

    The vast majority of the other sets coming in Summerset are utter garbage though, just be glad this one isn't.



    Fairly balanced to me as well. People forget thick skin will provide legit x% mitigation (assuming most builds don't use projection buffs as well.).

    Plus I assume it won't proc if you can't damage with other damage on a shield or that DMG gets dodged lol.

    Oblivion Damage is not mitigated by anything. Not even Battle Spirit, CPs, etc.

    My bad, was thinking of bleeds.

    This set should be a bleed set :).
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Surge is still superior, that is all.

    Surge is actually buffed by CP, damage buffs, and opponents debuffs so on the builds likely to get the most benefit from slaps surge should perform better.

    Plus, that huge aoe reveal...

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    Everyone who thinks that this set is fine is crazy. This set needs to be deleted from the game and never be spoken of again.
    Edited by Ragnaroek93 on April 30, 2018 12:31PM
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