While Hail is the biggest part of dps, you're also loosing ticks of caltrops, (possibly? poison injection) and beasttrap
But I now got a parse (although not my best) where sub was bigger part than hail.
Nvm I found the big mistake. I was using other WM jewels than on my stamplar, so I was missing 2 WP dmg enchants, just now reached 37,5k first try.
Running into sustain issues again with only 2-3 HA. So I either have to go 3-4 or swap to Stormfist or depend on bubbles.
Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.
Did you seb's video?
https://youtu.be/FCcszCMw4yQ
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.
Did you seb's video?
https://youtu.be/FCcszCMw4yQ
Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.
Did you seb's video?
https://youtu.be/FCcszCMw4yQ
Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long
Here is the issue: people say it's broken and you can definitely make a case for that - a synergy providing 8-15k dps is insane, but then you have to think - it doesnt benefit melee, it only benefits ranged. Magicka range dobt get more than 2-3k from it, which is fine, but stam range isnt viable without it. So I'd argue that if they want to nerf it, let them buff Bow/Bow enough to make it viable. Bow is already penalized with cast time on Lethals and any buff to that skill will *** off PvPers. So buff the passives. Make Hawkeye stack to 10 stacks and 40-50% max damage. Make accuracy give 5% crit and 170 wpn damage. Again both of the values can be balance tested and adjusted, but buffing Hawkeye is a major way to do it well imho. Especially if you buff it by requiring more stacks
is it current (I keep seeing older dates)and more importantly...is it fun to play? ')
(03/07/2019 - Updated for Wrathstone) found it!! but again, is it fun??
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.
Did you seb's video?
https://youtu.be/FCcszCMw4yQ
Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long
Here is the issue: people say it's broken and you can definitely make a case for that - a synergy providing 8-15k dps is insane, but then you have to think - it doesnt benefit melee, it only benefits ranged. Magicka range dobt get more than 2-3k from it, which is fine, but stam range isnt viable without it. So I'd argue that if they want to nerf it, let them buff Bow/Bow enough to make it viable. Bow is already penalized with cast time on Lethals and any buff to that skill will *** off PvPers. So buff the passives. Make Hawkeye stack to 10 stacks and 40-50% max damage. Make accuracy give 5% crit and 170 wpn damage. Again both of the values can be balance tested and adjusted, but buffing Hawkeye is a major way to do it well imho. Especially if you buff it by requiring more stacks
Yup, that would be the smart way. But from past I fear they will just see single strong mechanic (trapping webs) and scale them down and totally ignore that if this is making bows performing so good they should give something in exchange. If they want bows to keep performing good. Honestly I would even prefer that way since this Synergy is way too limiting for unorganized groups. Here is hoping the recent 'popularity' is something that puts bow to their mind again and they wont shut it at peak again like they did in Morrowind update
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
supplied by whom?
Usually main tank
ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?
Stamina hits harder than magicka
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?
Stamina hits harder than magicka
lol, well that's not an elaborated reply! Was hoping for a tad more but I guess a "just cuz" will have to do....
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?
Stamina hits harder than magicka
lol, well that's not an elaborated reply! Was hoping for a tad more but I guess a "just cuz" will have to do....
Sorry. I meant to say that the synergy scales with stam and stam pen so it doesnt hit as hard on mag. As for pure range setup the damage should be fairly comparable between the two, but stam usually hits harder due to greater wpn damage scaling.
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »ok, this might be a silly question but here goes....
What makes this build stronger over a Magden build? Both are ranged dps, both use a lot of pet/class skills for attacks and both have bear.
Is it that bow passives and such are that much stronger? And doesn't Shadow Silk work with magicka classes as well? So yea, just curious as to why one build/setup can be sooooo strong and yet its red-headed step brother (magden) blows chunks?
Stamina hits harder than magicka
lol, well that's not an elaborated reply! Was hoping for a tad more but I guess a "just cuz" will have to do....
Sorry. I meant to say that the synergy scales with stam and stam pen so it doesnt hit as hard on mag. As for pure range setup the damage should be fairly comparable between the two, but stam usually hits harder due to greater wpn damage scaling.
But...folks doin 51k on Magden while others doing 52+k on Stam, I reckon it all comes down to what you like since neither offers "support" for the group?
I gotta try this on stam DK when I get tzognvoins stuff. Sustain would be easy, could add acid spray for another dot. Not gonna hit like warden or NB, but could be pretty decent still
hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »Awesome. I mourned loss of your NB Bow thread back in Morrowind update. Was first and last proof bow can do some good work for many patches for me.
Did you seb's video?
https://youtu.be/FCcszCMw4yQ
Now I did, crazy what the synergy does. I wonder what will happen with this synergy and bows coming next update. Looks too good to stay like this for long
Here is the issue: people say it's broken and you can definitely make a case for that - a synergy providing 8-15k dps is insane, but then you have to think - it doesnt benefit melee, it only benefits ranged. Magicka range dobt get more than 2-3k from it, which is fine, but stam range isnt viable without it. So I'd argue that if they want to nerf it, let them buff Bow/Bow enough to make it viable. Bow is already penalized with cast time on Lethals and any buff to that skill will *** off PvPers. So buff the passives. Make Hawkeye stack to 10 stacks and 40-50% max damage. Make accuracy give 5% crit and 170 wpn damage. Again both of the values can be balance tested and adjusted, but buffing Hawkeye is a major way to do it well imho. Especially if you buff it by requiring more stacks