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Achievements/Titles for 9 Traits and Maxed Mount?
AlienatedGoat
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This hasn't been discussed in a while, and with Summerset bringing in 9 trait jewellery, I think it bears mentioning again.
Two of the longest timesink grinds in the game are mount training and 9 trait research. Neither gives any achievement or reward to mark the milestone upon completion.
Mount training takes ~180 days of real time to complete, per character. Learning 9 Traits can take up to a year or more.
I think that both of these character milestones deserve the recognition of an achievement and a player title.
For example:
Achievement names and title names are negotiable, obviously.
What do you think?
Edited by AlienatedGoat on March 27, 2018 9:55PM Two of the longest timesink grinds in the game are mount training and 9 trait research. Neither gives any achievement or reward to mark the milestone upon completion.
Mount training takes ~180 days of real time to complete, per character. Learning 9 Traits can take up to a year or more.
I think that both of these character milestones deserve the recognition of an achievement and a player title.
For example:
- "Achievement - Master Trainer" - Player Title "Stablemaster"
- "Achievement - Gotta Craft Em All" - Player Title "Master Crafter"
Achievement names and title names are negotiable, obviously.
What do you think?
PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa
Achievements/Titles for 9 Traits and Maxed Mount? 126 votes
Yes! I want both.
72%
91 votes
I just want the Master Crafter title.
10%
13 votes
I just want the Stablemaster title.
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1 vote
No!
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19 votes
Other
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✭✭Otheryou can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
The overwhelming majority of players either only buy DLC or buy nothing at all. Most players think buying research scrolls or mount training is a waste of cash.
It takes a long time to get 9 traits or full mount the normal way.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?Edited by AlienatedGoat on March 27, 2018 11:20PMPC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa2 -
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✭✭Otherjedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.1 -
CloneTrooper699✭✭✭Yes! I want both.I want both but would also love a reward system for your achievement score, I'm almost at 21k. A way to display your total score would be nice and giving out exclusive costumes, pets, mounts or even houses for reaching milestones like 1k, 5k, 10k and so on.I'm a goat3 -
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✭✭No!As someone who has done this all the hard way, yes I would have liked to see an achievement, but now they would be meaningless.
With horse training and research scrolls being sold in the Crown store, you would never know if someone earned the titles/achievements or 'bought' them.
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✭✭Otherdisintegr8 wrote: »As someone who has done this all the hard way, yes I would have liked to see an achievement, but now they would be meaningless.
With horse training and research scrolls being sold in the Crown store, you would never know if someone earned the titles/achievements or 'bought' them.
exactly.... so, are you going to back me on the 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement idea?0 -
MerlinPendragon✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.There's nothing wrong with buying achievements._____________________________________
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.disintegr8 wrote: »As someone who has done this all the hard way, yes I would have liked to see an achievement, but now they would be meaningless.
With horse training and research scrolls being sold in the Crown store, you would never know if someone earned the titles/achievements or 'bought' them.
Frankly, why should it matter? I don't really care if someone buys research scrolls or training, the end result is the same. It doesn't diminish the title at all in my opinion.
What matters is marking the occasion with something concrete and final. An achievement and a title.
Who cares if someone pays to speed that process up?
I don't. I give no ***.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »disintegr8 wrote: »As someone who has done this all the hard way, yes I would have liked to see an achievement, but now they would be meaningless.
With horse training and research scrolls being sold in the Crown store, you would never know if someone earned the titles/achievements or 'bought' them.
exactly.... so, are you going to back me on the 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement idea?
The argument that paying for it diminishes the need for a title is just utter BS.
You can save 10 million gold up to buy all three of the in-game notable homes and get the titles that way.
Or you can buy with crowns and get the titles that way.
Either way, the title is just a little something to commemorate your ownership of the homes.
I see getting 9 Traits and Full Mount as an achievement, but it wouldn't make me think less of my achievement if someone else got titles from buying scrolls and books off the Crown Store. I would give zero ***.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa2 -
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✭No!I’d way rather have a cool piece of furniture than a title. The only title I really want is something related to potatoes. Everything else falls short.
tbh 9 trait crafting is so far from an achievement in my eyes, that I can’t bring myself to spend 45k to get the last 3 weapons I need. No research is being done and no reason to do it. A checklist item from ZoS wouldn’t change that. A BiS 9 trait set would mean way more than a title.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
Edited by AlienatedGoat on March 27, 2018 11:27PMPC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.Colecovision wrote: »I’d way rather have a cool piece of furniture than a title. The only title I really want is something related to potatoes. Everything else falls short.
tbh 9 trait crafting is so far from an achievement in my eyes, that I can’t bring myself to spend 45k to get the last 3 weapons I need. No research is being done and no reason to do it. A checklist item from ZoS wouldn’t change that. A BiS 9 trait set would mean way more than a title.
That's another thread.
This thread is about commemorating the finality of the occasion with something small to show off. Furniture isn't a bad idea.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa0 -
Amadis001✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.Closely related:
Collect all leveled recipes -- Player Title "Master Chef"// Amadis of Gaul -- DK Nord (Lvl 50 CP 1000)2 -
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So you wouldn't care if they sold the 'Flawless Conqueror' title in the crown store, or maybe even sold Maelstrom weapons?disintegr8 wrote: »As someone who has done this all the hard way, yes I would have liked to see an achievement, but now they would be meaningless.
With horse training and research scrolls being sold in the Crown store, you would never know if someone earned the titles/achievements or 'bought' them.
Frankly, why should it matter? I don't really care if someone buys research scrolls or training, the end result is the same. It doesn't diminish the title at all in my opinion.
What matters is marking the occasion with something concrete and final. An achievement and a title.
Who cares if someone pays to speed that process up?
I don't. I give no ***.
I don't object to these, so why should you?
For some people achievements are something to be proud of and we don't have to like other people taking short cuts. We can't stop ZOS selling these things but we can voice our objections.
BTW - my proudest achievement is Master Angler but I suppose they'll start selling trophy fish in the crown store next, or 'super bait' that guarantees a trophy fish 33% or 50% of the time. These things cheapen our achievements and lessen the meaning of any title.
So **** *** ***** **** ****** !!!Australian on PS4 NA server.
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.disintegr8 wrote: »
So you wouldn't care if they sold the 'Flawless Conqueror' title in the crown store, or maybe even sold Maelstrom weapons?disintegr8 wrote: »As someone who has done this all the hard way, yes I would have liked to see an achievement, but now they would be meaningless.
With horse training and research scrolls being sold in the Crown store, you would never know if someone earned the titles/achievements or 'bought' them.
Frankly, why should it matter? I don't really care if someone buys research scrolls or training, the end result is the same. It doesn't diminish the title at all in my opinion.
What matters is marking the occasion with something concrete and final. An achievement and a title.
Who cares if someone pays to speed that process up?
I don't. I give no ***.
I don't object to these, so why should you?
For some people achievements are something to be proud of and we don't have to like other people taking short cuts. We can't stop ZOS selling these things but we can voice our objections.
BTW - my proudest achievement is Master Angler but I suppose they'll start selling trophy fish in the crown store next, or 'super bait' that guarantees a trophy fish 33% or 50% of the time. These things cheapen our achievements and lessen the meaning of any title.
So **** *** ***** **** ****** !!!
You're equating achievements from time-gated activities with solo PvE.
They're nothing alike.
If you gotta know though, nah I wouldn't give a ***. I just don't care what other players do.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa1 -
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Based on some of the threads here, completing vMA for the first time is a time-gated activity.disintegr8 wrote: »
So you wouldn't care if they sold the 'Flawless Conqueror' title in the crown store, or maybe even sold Maelstrom weapons?disintegr8 wrote: »As someone who has done this all the hard way, yes I would have liked to see an achievement, but now they would be meaningless.
With horse training and research scrolls being sold in the Crown store, you would never know if someone earned the titles/achievements or 'bought' them.
Frankly, why should it matter? I don't really care if someone buys research scrolls or training, the end result is the same. It doesn't diminish the title at all in my opinion.
What matters is marking the occasion with something concrete and final. An achievement and a title.
Who cares if someone pays to speed that process up?
I don't. I give no ***.
I don't object to these, so why should you?
For some people achievements are something to be proud of and we don't have to like other people taking short cuts. We can't stop ZOS selling these things but we can voice our objections.
BTW - my proudest achievement is Master Angler but I suppose they'll start selling trophy fish in the crown store next, or 'super bait' that guarantees a trophy fish 33% or 50% of the time. These things cheapen our achievements and lessen the meaning of any title.
So **** *** ***** **** ****** !!!
You're equating achievements from time-gated activities with solo PvE.
They're nothing alike.
If you gotta know though, nah I wouldn't give a ***. I just don't care what other players do.Australian on PS4 NA server.
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✭✭Otherjedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
you do realize that the polls on this forum mean nothing? people who post on forums do not represent the games community.
my source that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication?
me... i've done it. if you read the reply you would see the bit saying 'speaking as someone who qualifies for both'
clicking a few buttons every now and again to get traits is not 'hard work'. it takes a while that's all.0 -
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The forums also accounts for about 1% of the playerbase or something stupid, I did a thread a while back with stats.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
First Comment - 139579 people have earned this badge.
That's the number out of 10million (accounts) which have made a single post on these forums.
Whilst not everyone is doing it, I know a number of people who work hours which stop them feeding mounts every day for months, as such they buy books to complete characters.
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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✭Yes! I want both.This hasn't been discussed in a while, and with Summerset bringing in 9 trait jewellery, I think it bears mentioning again.
Two of the longest timesink grinds in the game are mount training and 9 trait research. Neither gives any achievement or reward to mark the milestone upon completion.
Mount training takes ~180 days of real time to complete, per character. Learning 9 Traits can take up to a year or more.
I think that both of these character milestones deserve the recognition of an achievement and a player title.
For example:- "Achievement - Master Trainer" - Player Title "Stablemaster"
- "Achievement - Gotta Craft Em All" - Player Title "Master Crafter"
Achievement names and title names are negotiable, obviously.
What do you think?
always wondered that there wasn´t any achievment for those........0 -
AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.
The forums also accounts for about 1% of the playerbase or something stupid, I did a thread a while back with stats.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
First Comment - 139579 people have earned this badge.
That's the number out of 10million (accounts) which have made a single post on these forums.
Whilst not everyone is doing it, I know a number of people who work hours which stop them feeding mounts every day for months, as such they buy books to complete characters.
1% is more than enough for an accurate sample size. Real life demographic polls are done with much less.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
you do realize that the polls on this forum mean nothing? people who post on forums do not represent the games community.
my source that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication?
me... i've done it. if you read the reply you would see the bit saying 'speaking as someone who qualifies for both'
clicking a few buttons every now and again to get traits is not 'hard work'. it takes a while that's all.
People on the forums represent a slice of the community. Statistically, an outcome of a poll here is likely indicative of the same attitude of the similar percentage of the whole playerbase.
You're also wrong about it not being hard work. It takes a lot of time to log in everyday for 6 months for mounts, per character, and researching takes a lot longer and requires a lot more attention to do it in the least amount of time possible. A year or more of micromanagement. That is an accomplishment in and of itself.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa1 -
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Whilst I am fine with the achievements and don't mind if they came, I can't say that they're hard work.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
you do realize that the polls on this forum mean nothing? people who post on forums do not represent the games community.
my source that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication?
me... i've done it. if you read the reply you would see the bit saying 'speaking as someone who qualifies for both'
clicking a few buttons every now and again to get traits is not 'hard work'. it takes a while that's all.
People on the forums represent a slice of the community. Statistically, an outcome of a poll here is likely indicative of the same attitude of the similar percentage of the whole playerbase.
You're also wrong about it not being hard work. It takes a lot of time to log in everyday for 6 months for mounts, per character, and researching takes a lot longer and requires a lot more attention to do it in the least amount of time possible. A year or more of micromanagement. That is an accomplishment in and of itself.
Maybe the traits as it's a little tracking them, but this is more just a "log in, push some buttons, log out" every day system.
I mean I basically have level 3 characters sat at stables to log in each day and buy a level before logging out, I don't feel like I've worked hard for them, not since my main (who did them back when it was per horse).
@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
"Don't count on others for help. In the end each of us is in this alone. The survivors are those who know how to look out for themselves."0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.
Whilst I am fine with the achievements and don't mind if they came, I can't say that they're hard work.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
you do realize that the polls on this forum mean nothing? people who post on forums do not represent the games community.
my source that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication?
me... i've done it. if you read the reply you would see the bit saying 'speaking as someone who qualifies for both'
clicking a few buttons every now and again to get traits is not 'hard work'. it takes a while that's all.
People on the forums represent a slice of the community. Statistically, an outcome of a poll here is likely indicative of the same attitude of the similar percentage of the whole playerbase.
You're also wrong about it not being hard work. It takes a lot of time to log in everyday for 6 months for mounts, per character, and researching takes a lot longer and requires a lot more attention to do it in the least amount of time possible. A year or more of micromanagement. That is an accomplishment in and of itself.
Maybe the traits as it's a little tracking them, but this is more just a "log in, push some buttons, log out" every day system.
I mean I basically have level 3 characters sat at stables to log in each day and buy a level before logging out, I don't feel like I've worked hard for them, not since my main (who did them back when it was per horse).
Try levelling all your characters mounts at the same time. Login/logout takes too long, so depending on how many characters you could be spending 15-30 minutes a day doing mounts.
Is it the same work as running a Trial?
No, but it certainly is a trial of patience.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa2 -
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✭✭Otherjedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »you can buy stuff from the crown store....
how about an 'i have a credit/debit card' achievement?
The overwhelming majority of players do not.
Do you not think all that hard work and dedication deserves some recognition?
can you link your source for the bit i put in bold please.
speaking as someone who qualifies for both.... what hard work?
dedication....hmm.
Theres been numerous polls in this forum about buying research scrolls or mount training. The majority say they don't buy them. You can look them up yourself.
Where's your source that that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication? Is a year/year and a half not long enough to qualify for your standards?
Furthermore, being able to buy these things doesn't diminish individual achievement unless you are an elitist who thinks things should be done the "hard way" simply because you had to. How other people get their traits or training shouldn't have any bearing on how you value your achievements.
I say this as someone with max mount on 8 of my characters and four 9 trait characters, and I got them all the "hard way".
Please.
you do realize that the polls on this forum mean nothing? people who post on forums do not represent the games community.
my source that 9 traits isn't hard work and dedication?
me... i've done it. if you read the reply you would see the bit saying 'speaking as someone who qualifies for both'
clicking a few buttons every now and again to get traits is not 'hard work'. it takes a while that's all.
People on the forums represent a slice of the community. Statistically, an outcome of a poll here is likely indicative of the same attitude of the similar percentage of the whole playerbase.
You're also wrong about it not being hard work. It takes a lot of time to log in everyday for 6 months for mounts, per character, and researching takes a lot longer and requires a lot more attention to do it in the least amount of time possible. A year or more of micromanagement. That is an accomplishment in and of itself.
yes it's a sample but it is not a representative sample. there is a big difference.
for opinion polls it is true that smaller samples are used.... they are representative samples - selected by demographics, so that they truly represent the population they come from. the people who vote on this forum are self selected and represent nothing but themselves.
i've done hard work in my time. logging into a game (which i do for entertainment) and clicking a few buttons is nothing like hard work.0 -
VDoom1✭✭✭✭✭Yes! I want both.Seems like a good idea. Both are time consuming as you said, very time consuming actually. Why not reward players for their efforts with achievements and one or two titles. Seems like it could work, I don't see why it could not work.We Fight For Cyrodiil.
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