Narvuntien wrote: »They stopped clever alchemist from working for bow ganks this patch... you'll have to use something else.
Also if you play on PC everyone uses an addon that counters your build because they get a warning whenever is an arrow coming.
In short *shrug* I don't know I was using clever alchemist and strenght of automation.
Someone was going around swearing Archer's mind is the best, I have never done DSA to get it so I don't know, I am concerned about how much crit stats it has that I don't want.
Hundings rage is okay, just a good all around set. Morag Tong seems like a popular bow gank set, but I'd have to reset all my skills.
The_Protagonist wrote: »I need advice for PvP as I mostly PvE, I know that in PvE coming close to pen cap is the best way to maximize damage. I know that I need to be in battle before I chug a weapon pot, with the changes to CA.
Which combination gives max damage potential?
Spriggan, Kragh&Velidreth, Food that gives max Stam and Mag recovery and Shadow Walker on back bar for me.
Automaton is pretty poor on bow imo as it only works for physical damage, and Lethal arrow (Defile)/ Poison Injection are great.
Morag Tong is ok but it wont proc for your first hit (at least that used to be the case), which will probably be your main damage from Lethal Arrow. Its ok for the Poison Injection and poison ticks and has good 2pc-4pc bonuses.
Marksman is good due to the damage and recovery bonuses.
I actually think TBS is reasonable now they have increase mundus effects. I ran this with Spriggans and Lover/ Warrior stones (all divines) and did huge damage and had decent health and magicka, which is always nice.
Mangeli200194 wrote: »The_Protagonist wrote: »I need advice for PvP as I mostly PvE, I know that in PvE coming close to pen cap is the best way to maximize damage. I know that I need to be in battle before I chug a weapon pot, with the changes to CA.
Which combination gives max damage potential?
@The_Protagonist
Use 5x Spriggans, 5x marksman, 1x kraig im hitting people for 20k+ lethal arrows
pdebie64b16_ESO wrote: »Automaton, Hunding, Kena with warrior mundus is what i use.
The_Protagonist wrote: »Spriggan, Kragh&Velidreth, Food that gives max Stam and Mag recovery and Shadow Walker on back bar for me.
Automaton is pretty poor on bow imo as it only works for physical damage, and Lethal arrow (Defile)/ Poison Injection are great.
Morag Tong is ok but it wont proc for your first hit (at least that used to be the case), which will probably be your main damage from Lethal Arrow. Its ok for the Poison Injection and poison ticks and has good 2pc-4pc bonuses.
Marksman is good due to the damage and recovery bonuses.
I actually think TBS is reasonable now they have increase mundus effects. I ran this with Spriggans and Lover/ Warrior stones (all divines) and did huge damage and had decent health and magicka, which is always nice.
I have been thinking of trying out TBS with Lover / Warrior, as these were buffed, but was afraid of trying it, as I would have to gold my armor out for max benefit, perhaps I should try it in PTS and then decide. And is it safe to assume that Spriggan jewelry was enchanted with WD?
The combinations in case of TBS (with lover/warrior) that could also work would be Sheer Venom (procs on first tick of PI) and Marksman (as you said for resource sustain).
Morag Tong has to be procced by heavy attack from stealth weaved with PI.
Narvuntien wrote: »I am running hundings and strenght of automation with the warrior stone. Focused aim for 32Kish on a dummy
Now it appears that Hundings + Spriggans does more damage because of the penetration. 35Kish on a dummy.
I am about to log in and go buy an archer's mind bow to test that as well.
I would be interested what I could do if I funnel more cp points into penetration
Narvuntien wrote: »I am running hundings and strenght of automation with the warrior stone. Focused aim for 32Kish on a dummy
Now it appears that Hundings + Spriggans does more damage because of the penetration. 35Kish on a dummy.
I am about to log in and go buy an archer's mind bow to test that as well.
I would be interested what I could do if I funnel more cp points into penetration
Narvuntien wrote: »Atm i have a kraghs shoulder and not a velidreth/kena one. So i have a little extra pen from that. I also run mark target at least for dummy tests. Its in my flex slot, shuffle or fear, are my other options.
Since i am a bow ganker i have funneled a lot of points into master at arms atm. Perhaps i should get out a calcuator and work out what the optimal balance of master at arms. Crit dam, penetration and raw dam is
Try Morag Tong plus Marksman + Kragh/Velidreth
Couple of nice big percentage amps to your damage.
Narvuntien wrote: »I am running hundings and strenght of automation with the warrior stone. Focused aim for 32Kish on a dummy
Now it appears that Hundings + Spriggans does more damage because of the penetration. 35Kish on a dummy.
I am about to log in and go buy an archer's mind bow to test that as well.
I would be interested what I could do if I funnel more cp points into penetration
Narvuntien wrote: »Okay ran a bunch of new tests
Strenght of automation+ Hundings rage: Focused Aim damage: 32 458
Strenght of automation + Spriggans: Focused Aim damage: 34 495
Strenght of automation + Archer's Mind: Focused Aim damage: 33 597
I am too much of a cheapskate to Buy Spriggans jewerly but I am pretty sure Spriggans + Hundings is worse when i tried it on the PTS, SotA gives more WD than Hundings. Hundings is better for healing and such.
In defense of Hundings rage, I have a bunch less stamina because I have tri stat enchants on helmet and gaurds. To get my hp stats to 17K.
That NPC must have 0 resistances or my backyard isn't big enough to get max damage from the bow distance passive. I have no idea how you'd get 50K with a single shot... 50K is my Onslaught (2H) damage.
My tests seems to suggest that Archer's mind might actually be the most damage.. but I want to find a punching bag to test how this interacts with Inpen.
Narvuntien wrote: »Okay ran a bunch of new tests
Strenght of automation+ Hundings rage: Focused Aim damage: 32 458
Strenght of automation + Spriggans: Focused Aim damage: 34 495
Strenght of automation + Archer's Mind: Focused Aim damage: 33 597
I am too much of a cheapskate to Buy Spriggans jewerly but I am pretty sure Spriggans + Hundings is worse when i tried it on the PTS, SotA gives more WD than Hundings. Hundings is better for healing and such.
In defense of Hundings rage, I have a bunch less stamina because I have tri stat enchants on helmet and gaurds. To get my hp stats to 17K.
That NPC must have 0 resistances or my backyard isn't big enough to get max damage from the bow distance passive. I have no idea how you'd get 50K with a single shot... 50K is my Onslaught (2H) damage.
My tests seems to suggest that Archer's mind might actually be the most damage.. but I want to find a punching bag to test how this interacts with Inpen.