thankyourat wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »Nuff said.
we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.
I don't think most NBs use cloak anymore
Only Stam NBs use Cloak nowadays, because they don't have the massive healing capabilities of a Magblade.
I use cloak on my magblade to avoid CCs, get to line of sight, and to make sure i get my healing ward heal. I still need to use cloak because i don't run double defensive sets
thankyourat wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »Nuff said.
we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.
I don't think most NBs use cloak anymore
Only Stam NBs use Cloak nowadays, because they don't have the massive healing capabilities of a Magblade.
I use cloak on my magblade to avoid CCs, get to line of sight, and to make sure i get my healing ward heal. I still need to use cloak because i don't run double defensive sets
I dont run cloak or a defensive set. I use 5 shackle 4 necro and skoria in duels. 5 shackle 5 necro 1 domi openworld. Shadow image is all you need. Shields are huge just use image wisely and youll be fine.
thankyourat wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »Nuff said.
we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.
I don't think most NBs use cloak anymore
Only Stam NBs use Cloak nowadays, because they don't have the massive healing capabilities of a Magblade.
I use cloak on my magblade to avoid CCs, get to line of sight, and to make sure i get my healing ward heal. I still need to use cloak because i don't run double defensive sets
I dont run cloak or a defensive set. I use 5 shackle 4 necro and skoria in duels. 5 shackle 5 necro 1 domi openworld. Shadow image is all you need. Shields are huge just use image wisely and youll be fine.
I use shadow image as well. I find hots and cloak to be superior to shields. I've never been a fan of shields on magblades. If you are using your cloak and shade wisely it has a much higher ceiling than shield stacking, and healing ward is more than enough to keep you alive. Usually i pop a healing ward and my health will jump up to about 70% just from the hots
Only time i dont run cloak is if I'm dueling and stack a lot of weapon damage. 9/10 i have cloak on my bar and it still idiotic how it breaks randomly.Otherwise on a stamblade you dont have the healing compared to other classes.Waffennacht wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Micah_Bayer wrote: »Nuff said.
we nightblades die very very easy. and pull us out of stealth is also very easy.
I don't think most NBs use cloak anymore
You’d be really hard pressed to find an unbiased, experienced PvPer who said a class other than Stam warden was #1 right now.
You’d be really hard pressed to find an unbiased, experienced PvPer who said a class other than Stam warden was #1 right now.
Mag blade and mag DK are both really strong too, especially with the shuffle changes, but they’re no stamden and their usefulness is more limited in scope. Magblades are great but I wouldn’t consider them a 1vX class or a “play the objectives” class. Stamden would win in a duel, be able to play objectives, do some 1vX and still outparse the magblades DPS
Magblades very strong 1v1. As strong as a warden. Nowhere near as strong open world thoughYou’d be really hard pressed to find an unbiased, experienced PvPer who said a class other than Stam warden was #1 right now.
Mag blade and mag DK are both really strong too, especially with the shuffle changes, but they’re no stamden and their usefulness is more limited in scope. Magblades are great but I wouldn’t consider them a 1vX class or a “play the objectives” class. Stamden would win in a duel, be able to play objectives, do some 1vX and still outparse the magblades DPS
Yeah you’re right in Zerg vs Zerg stuff the mag blade comes out ahead by a long shotYou’d be really hard pressed to find an unbiased, experienced PvPer who said a class other than Stam warden was #1 right now.
Mag blade and mag DK are both really strong too, especially with the shuffle changes, but they’re no stamden and their usefulness is more limited in scope. Magblades are great but I wouldn’t consider them a 1vX class or a “play the objectives” class. Stamden would win in a duel, be able to play objectives, do some 1vX and still outparse the magblades DPS
Stamden should never kill mageblade 1v1 unless the mageblade makes mistakes. But mageblade lacks the tools to kill a proper stamden as well.
Pretending a stamden can compete with the aoe damage if a mageblade is a bit untrue as well.
Stamden is still far and away the top dog though
Waffennacht wrote: »I feel like every class lacks 1 thing to make a great bow build...
Waffennacht wrote: »I feel like every class lacks 1 thing to make a great bow build...
The only good bow build is one on the other team tbh.
Waffennacht wrote: »Waffennacht wrote: »I feel like every class lacks 1 thing to make a great bow build...
The only good bow build is one on the other team tbh.
Oh I'm gonna find a way... Some how... Some way
brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Joy_Division wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Everybody's kryptonite is stam warden.
Magicka wardens are killable though and are very vulnerable to LoSing and being CCd. They have to get into melee range to use their burst dmg which makes them very vulnerable if you survive itJoy_Division wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Everybody's kryptonite is stam warden.
Thought magicka warden were kryptonite too ?
zParallaxz wrote: »There really is no best class in pvp, it all depends on how well you as a 1vXer can burst people down while also avoiding their damage whether through dodge roll, block, or heavy shield stacking. Every major patch people will always claim one class being the strongest, when really it just that person hasn't learned how to counter the play style of the class i.e stamblades in IC patch, stam sorcs in theives guild patch, and wardens in this current patch. Once a skilled competent player comes upon a a 1vXer and knows how to counter him, its pretty much over. For all the people saying stamdens are op, play one first and learn the class, thus making it insanely easier to fight once you see one in open world.
Magicka wardens are killable though and are very vulnerable to LoSing and being CCd. They have to get into melee range to use their burst dmg which makes them very vulnerable if you survive itJoy_Division wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Everybody's kryptonite is stam warden.
Thought magicka warden were kryptonite too ?
zParallaxz wrote: »There really is no best class in pvp, it all depends on how well you as a 1vXer can burst people down while also avoiding their damage whether through dodge roll, block, or heavy shield stacking. Every major patch people will always claim one class being the strongest, when really it just that person hasn't learned how to counter the play style of the class i.e stamblades in IC patch, stam sorcs in theives guild patch, and wardens in this current patch. Once a skilled competent player comes upon a a 1vXer and knows how to counter him, its pretty much over. For all the people saying stamdens are op, play one first and learn the class, thus making it insanely easier to fight once you see one in open world.
Nah man, I felt the same too until I made a stam warden of my own.Magicka wardens are killable though and are very vulnerable to LoSing and being CCd. They have to get into melee range to use their burst dmg which makes them very vulnerable if you survive itJoy_Division wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Everybody's kryptonite is stam warden.
Thought magicka warden were kryptonite too ?
There's nothing about a mag warden that scares me, they just don't have the native healing to withstand constant pressure without resorting to tree ult turtling and when you're so reliant on a ground targeted heal to keep you alive you start to be countered by ground targeted DoTs and defile
Joy_Division wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Everybody's kryptonite is stam warden.
Thought magicka warden were kryptonite too ?
zParallaxz wrote: »There really is no best class in pvp, it all depends on how well you as a 1vXer can burst people down while also avoiding their damage whether through dodge roll, block, or heavy shield stacking. Every major patch people will always claim one class being the strongest, when really it just that person hasn't learned how to counter the play style of the class i.e stamblades in IC patch, stam sorcs in theives guild patch, and wardens in this current patch. Once a skilled competent player comes upon a a 1vXer and knows how to counter him, its pretty much over. For all the people saying stamdens are op, play one first and learn the class, thus making it insanely easier to fight once you see one in open world.
Nah man, I felt the same too until I made a stam warden of my own.Magicka wardens are killable though and are very vulnerable to LoSing and being CCd. They have to get into melee range to use their burst dmg which makes them very vulnerable if you survive itJoy_Division wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Everybody's kryptonite is stam warden.
Thought magicka warden were kryptonite too ?
There's nothing about a mag warden that scares me, they just don't have the native healing to withstand constant pressure without resorting to tree ult turtling and when you're so reliant on a ground targeted heal to keep you alive you start to be countered by ground targeted DoTs and defile
For you what is the strong advantage of stam warden then ?
zParallaxz wrote: »There really is no best class in pvp, it all depends on how well you as a 1vXer can burst people down while also avoiding their damage whether through dodge roll, block, or heavy shield stacking. Every major patch people will always claim one class being the strongest, when really it just that person hasn't learned how to counter the play style of the class i.e stamblades in IC patch, stam sorcs in theives guild patch, and wardens in this current patch. Once a skilled competent player comes upon a a 1vXer and knows how to counter him, its pretty much over. For all the people saying stamdens are op, play one first and learn the class, thus making it insanely easier to fight once you see one in open world.
Nah man, I felt the same too until I made a stam warden of my own.Magicka wardens are killable though and are very vulnerable to LoSing and being CCd. They have to get into melee range to use their burst dmg which makes them very vulnerable if you survive itJoy_Division wrote: »brandonv516 wrote: »Very successful in Spinners/Riposte/Skoria
I don't think magicka NB is outperforming other classes though. Very rewarding with work.
My biggest kryptonite is a stamina warden.
Everybody's kryptonite is stam warden.
Thought magicka warden were kryptonite too ?
There's nothing about a mag warden that scares me, they just don't have the native healing to withstand constant pressure without resorting to tree ult turtling and when you're so reliant on a ground targeted heal to keep you alive you start to be countered by ground targeted DoTs and defile
For you what is the strong advantage of stam warden then ?
It's several things, first being the superior burst combo. Sub+DBoS is stronger than any non-telegraphed burst a magden can pull. Then combine soothing being a stronger burst heal than anything in the magden kit, plus vigor being a superior HoT to anything a magden can use without a resto and you've got more burst and more healing.
Plus stamden get an execute and magden doesnt
The_Protagonist wrote: »Is this a sneaky nerf NB thread?