PVE? Veli (maybe mephala)
PVP? Skoria
Then trollking/bloodspawn. If you cant justify either it is not worth using any other.
//edit:
for the record, I have been trying to use offensive monster set on stamina ranged build both in PVE and PVP for past 2 years and simply nothing is worth it, except Skoria with enough DoTs (in PVP)
1pc kra'gh 1pc kena/pirate.
Bow users don't have the initial penetration like LA staff users get from both their weapon line+ armor.
You could roll mephalia
2 items) When you deal damage with a fully-charged Heavy Attack, you create a web for 10 seconds that deals 1096 Poison Damage every 1 second and reduces the Movement Speed of enemies within by 50%. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.
Maybe not the best consistency. Slimecraw is good.
2 slimecraw if you are not a nigthblade. 1kena+1velidreth if you are a NB.
Waffennacht wrote: »If I run Bird O Prey, what other ideas?
And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
Waffennacht wrote: »VillianAnd I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
Good info! Crusher enchantments... Infused?
Also, nirn vs sharp on bow?
Leaning now towards x1/x1 monster. Gonna math it up
And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
don't want to sound rude, but that builds is really bad.
And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
don't want to sound rude, but that builds is really bad.
And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
don't want to sound rude, but that builds is really bad.
Can't be rude if I said I never tested it lol.
I think when I made it it was to test how to get penetration on bow.
But otherwise take it as it is; just giving waff ideas to try.
Waffennacht wrote: »And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
don't want to sound rude, but that builds is really bad.
Either way it has ideas! Never lose out on some info just because the source may not be optimised!
And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
don't want to sound rude, but that builds is really bad.
Can't be rude if I said I never tested it lol.
I think when I made it it was to test how to get penetration on bow.
But otherwise take it as it is; just giving waff ideas to try.Waffennacht wrote: »And I had an experimental bow build:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Special:EsoBuildData?id=27752
Not sure if it works.
don't want to sound rude, but that builds is really bad.
Either way it has ideas! Never lose out on some info just because the source may not be optimised!
Is not about optimization, the choice of sets is really bad. Stacking penetration on PvP is not as effective as in PvE, any magika player with a damage shield will negate all your penetration, it will be almost imposible to kill it with that build. For PvP is better to stack on weapon damage, not only is effective vs all kind of targets, it also boost your heals (key aspect for PvP, if you vigor and rally dosn't heal for ***, you die very quick, specially on medium armor)
Better to go 5/5/1 than 5/4/2 if you dont want to use skoria and want to go for offensive way (so no BS).
Master bow obv BiS if going ranged (tho even I dont have it after ~2years of playing the game, hopefully CWC revives interest for dsa)
Trait does not matter. I prefer infused with disease (for defile), but sharpened and nirn work great too. Personally I would go nirn if I had at least 7k pen from other sources. Your heals are already weaker by choosing bow (~400 less weapon damage than 2h when buffed, lul)
S/B backbar 100% on warden
Sets all about weapon damage and sustain (tho some proc sets like sheer venom can work). There are no good penetration sets imo (3500 from spriggan is too weak).
Dubious food obv. It is the bosmer food both by name and function. Which moves the point to race. Bosmer, bosmer and only bosmer. Bow heavy attacks are horrible both for damage and for sustain. Punishing bow in pve and pvp. So everything to regen.
//edit
As for combat output, cant say for xbox. My ranged waren is limited to 10m range for draining shot + sub assault + dawnbreaker combo. Impossible to use snipe as long as Miat addon exists.
Better to go 5/5/1 than 5/4/2 if you dont want to use skoria and want to go for offensive way (so no BS).
Master bow obv BiS if going ranged (tho even I dont have it after ~2years of playing the game, hopefully CWC revives interest for dsa)
Trait does not matter. I prefer infused with disease (for defile), but sharpened and nirn work great too. Personally I would go nirn if I had at least 7k pen from other sources. Your heals are already weaker by choosing bow (~400 less weapon damage than 2h when buffed, lul)
S/B backbar 100% on warden
Sets all about weapon damage and sustain (tho some proc sets like sheer venom can work). There are no good penetration sets imo (3500 from spriggan is too weak).
Dubious food obv. It is the bosmer food both by name and function. Which moves the point to race. Bosmer, bosmer and only bosmer. Bow heavy attacks are horrible both for damage and for sustain. Punishing bow in pve and pvp. So everything to regen.
//edit
As for combat output, cant say for xbox. My ranged waren is limited to 10m range for draining shot + sub assault + dawnbreaker combo. Impossible to use snipe as long as Miat addon exists.
Backbar crit rush to help land bugs+get into draining range?
Waffennacht wrote: »@ManDraKE I have very little (if any) penetration ATM and I feel like I'm missing out.
I.e. faced many opponent's that my 15k tooltip would crit for 6k.
I feel like I need to up my penetration, so when it does land it deals a good amount of damage.
So, quite frankly, thinking 100% use of penetration would be better than a semi useful armor set
Your opinions?
Better to go 5/5/1 than 5/4/2 if you dont want to use skoria and want to go for offensive way (so no BS).
Master bow obv BiS if going ranged (tho even I dont have it after ~2years of playing the game, hopefully CWC revives interest for dsa)
Trait does not matter. I prefer infused with disease (for defile), but sharpened and nirn work great too. Personally I would go nirn if I had at least 7k pen from other sources. Your heals are already weaker by choosing bow (~400 less weapon damage than 2h when buffed, lul)
S/B backbar 100% on warden
Sets all about weapon damage and sustain (tho some proc sets like sheer venom can work). There are no good penetration sets imo (3500 from spriggan is too weak).
Dubious food obv. It is the bosmer food both by name and function. Which moves the point to race. Bosmer, bosmer and only bosmer. Bow heavy attacks are horrible both for damage and for sustain. Punishing bow in pve and pvp. So everything to regen.
//edit
As for combat output, cant say for xbox. My ranged waren is limited to 10m range for draining shot + sub assault + dawnbreaker combo. Impossible to use snipe as long as Miat addon exists.
Backbar crit rush to help land bugs+get into draining range?
Thats the trick, you dont need it. People come to you and people cant run away from you (well, stam sorc orcs and magsorcs can) plus nobody really wants to run away from you. You have bow in your main hand, nobody but some newbies is going to run scared seeing you and once they are in your range they will never leave because Major Expedition on demand, medium armor speed on demand and personal cherry on top - wind running from CP
Better to go 5/5/1 than 5/4/2 if you dont want to use skoria and want to go for offensive way (so no BS).
Master bow obv BiS if going ranged (tho even I dont have it after ~2years of playing the game, hopefully CWC revives interest for dsa)
Trait does not matter. I prefer infused with disease (for defile), but sharpened and nirn work great too. Personally I would go nirn if I had at least 7k pen from other sources. Your heals are already weaker by choosing bow (~400 less weapon damage than 2h when buffed, lul)
S/B backbar 100% on warden
Sets all about weapon damage and sustain (tho some proc sets like sheer venom can work). There are no good penetration sets imo (3500 from spriggan is too weak).
Dubious food obv. It is the bosmer food both by name and function. Which moves the point to race. Bosmer, bosmer and only bosmer. Bow heavy attacks are horrible both for damage and for sustain. Punishing bow in pve and pvp. So everything to regen.
//edit
As for combat output, cant say for xbox. My ranged waren is limited to 10m range for draining shot + sub assault + dawnbreaker combo. Impossible to use snipe as long as Miat addon exists.
Backbar crit rush to help land bugs+get into draining range?
Thats the trick, you dont need it. People come to you and people cant run away from you (well, stam sorc orcs and magsorcs can) plus nobody really wants to run away from you. You have bow in your main hand, nobody but some newbies is going to run scared seeing you and once they are in your range they will never leave because Major Expedition on demand, medium armor speed on demand and personal cherry on top - wind running from CP
Ah ok I misread. I thought you meant the 10m range as a negative but you mention it as a positive!
I agree, for warden, ME is enough mobility to deslot a gap closer.