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Balance your game pls zenimax

  • Timeraider
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    I really dont get it. You *** up and got bombed, then you blame it on balance?
    I am really confused.
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  • gammelscroll
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    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

    Na4nklT.jpg
  • gammelscroll
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    Timeraider wrote: »
    I really dont get it. You *** up and got bombed, then you blame it on balance?
    I am really confused.

    would like to see how you pro skills would counter play the picture above... so enlighten me with your skills sir
  • Asmael
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    Well, everything is overpowered with +100% damage from a powerup glyph in deathmatch, but that says more about the glyph than the abilities themselves.

    ...Or as an option, you just avoid your enemies for the next 30s when you see the red aura around them, until Zos realizes that making everything a near-instakill isn't a good idea (which is to say: no ETA).
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  • Qbiken
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    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

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    Dodge/reflect/block/shield??

    4 very valid counters.
  • gammelscroll
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

    Na4nklT.jpg

    Dodge/reflect/block/shield??

    4 very valid counters.

    when u get sniped from behind when u cant see sorc are shooting? lol clever answer....maybe you should go to school
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    Proxy det has been nerfed beyond belief already...unreal to see it in a BG death recap what were you guys doing??

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  • Qbiken
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

    Na4nklT.jpg

    Dodge/reflect/block/shield??

    4 very valid counters.

    when u get sniped from behind when u cant see sorc are shooting? lol clever answer....maybe you should go to school

    3 years at university is enough for me ty......

    And how is catching someone off-guard a valid argument for nerfing something?? After the first hit you should at least be aware of where the sorc is, making it possible for you to dodge the 2nd overload bolt....

    L2takecritisism and feedback
  • gammelscroll
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

    Na4nklT.jpg

    Dodge/reflect/block/shield??

    4 very valid counters.

    when u get sniped from behind when u cant see sorc are shooting? lol clever answer....maybe you should go to school

    3 years at university is enough for me ty......

    And how is catching someone off-guard a valid argument for nerfing something?? After the first hit you should at least be aware of where the sorc is, making it possible for you to dodge the 2nd overload bolt....

    L2takecritisism and feedback

    i did dodgeroll, git hit with second overload as soon my dodgeroll was over...so yea...realy good counterplay

    even you can block dodge roll or go to uneveristy for 3 year...abailities should not hit so hard in this game. almost 20k in 1 mouse click is broken
    Edited by gammelscroll on October 2, 2017 8:11AM
  • Destruent
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

    Na4nklT.jpg

    Dodge/reflect/block/shield??

    4 very valid counters.

    when u get sniped from behind when u cant see sorc are shooting? lol clever answer....maybe you should go to school

    3 years at university is enough for me ty......

    And how is catching someone off-guard a valid argument for nerfing something?? After the first hit you should at least be aware of where the sorc is, making it possible for you to dodge the 2nd overload bolt....

    L2takecritisism and feedback

    i did dodgeroll, git hit with second overload as soon my dodgeroll was over...so yea...realy good counterplay

    even you can block dodge roll or go to uneveristy for 3 year...abailities should not hit so hard in this game. almost 20k in 1 mouse click is broken

    Overload is more or less the easiest ultimate to counter and against good players more likely a suicide ultimate than a killing blow...

    i'm sorry, but it's really l2p at this point...
    Noobplar
  • gammelscroll
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    Destruent wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    Qbiken wrote: »
    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

    Na4nklT.jpg

    Dodge/reflect/block/shield??

    4 very valid counters.

    when u get sniped from behind when u cant see sorc are shooting? lol clever answer....maybe you should go to school

    3 years at university is enough for me ty......

    And how is catching someone off-guard a valid argument for nerfing something?? After the first hit you should at least be aware of where the sorc is, making it possible for you to dodge the 2nd overload bolt....

    L2takecritisism and feedback

    i did dodgeroll, git hit with second overload as soon my dodgeroll was over...so yea...realy good counterplay

    even you can block dodge roll or go to uneveristy for 3 year...abailities should not hit so hard in this game. almost 20k in 1 mouse click is broken

    Overload is more or less the easiest ultimate to counter and against good players more likely a suicide ultimate than a killing blow...

    i'm sorry, but it's really l2p at this point...

    then u should read this

    Let's start with dodge roll. What's the problem with it?

    Well, here's a list of basic skills that you cannot mitigate with dodge roll - they will hit you:
    Puncturing Strikes (and morphs), Dive (and morphs), Radiant Destruction (and morphs), Dark Talons (and morphs), Petrify (and morphs), Aspect of Terror (and morphs), Daedric Curse (and morphs), Daedric Mines (and morphs), Lightning Form (and morphs), Spear Shards (and morphs), Backlash (and morphs), Scorch (and morphs), Impaling Shards (and morphs), Ash Cloud (and morphs), Wall of Elements (and morphs), Drain Essence (and morphs), Trap Beast (and morphs), Fire Rune (and morphs), Trapping Webs (and morphs), Caltrops (and morphs), Path of Darkness (and morphs), Agony (and morphs), Rune Prison (and morphs), Lightning Splash (and morphs), Volley (and morphs), Magicka Detonation (and morphs), Explosive Charge, Lotus Fan, Streak, Dark Flare (heal debuff portion only), Ritual of Retribution, Arctic Blast

    And here's a list of skills that you can't mitigate with dodge once they've been applied:
    Mages' Fury (and morphs), Sun Fire (and morphs), Eclipse (and morphs), Swarm (and morphs), Searing Strike (and morphs), Fiery Breath (and morphs), Cleave (and morphs), Twin Slashes (and morphs), Poison Arrow (and morphs), Arrow Spray (and morphs), Soul Trap (and morphs), Infectious Claws (and morphs)[Note: Infectious Claws is very, very difficult to dodge, but it's possible as per my tests], Entropy (and morphs), Volatile Armor

    Bad huh? Gets worse:

    Ultimates - Soul Strike (and morphs), Dawnbreaker (and morphs), Elemental Storm (and morphs), Meteor (and morphs), Dragonknight Standard (and morphs), Bat Swarm (and morphs), Consuming Darkness (and morphs), Soul Shred (and morphs), Summon Storm Atronach (and morphs), Negate Magic (and morphs), Radial Sweep (and morphs), Nova (and morphs), Sleet Storm (and morphs), Soul Harvest

    And one ultimate which you can't mitigate by dodging once it has been applied: Lacerate (and morphs)

    That's not all.

    DW/2H Bleeds, Skoria proc, DoT set bonuses, lightning/resto heavy attacks - all undodgeable as well.
  • Destruent
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    I know that dodge is not the ultimate counter to everything, but you play full heavy, what about blocking/reflecting? ever heard of this? sry, but every time i see a overload-spamming sorc i'm happy bc i found more or less free AP...
    Noobplar
  • gammelscroll
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    Destruent wrote: »
    I know that dodge is not the ultimate counter to everything, but you play full heavy, what about blocking/reflecting? ever heard of this? sry, but every time i see a overload-spamming sorc i'm happy bc i found more or less free AP...

    cant you just read what i wrote earlier? i said he sniped me from behind..didnt even see him cast it.

    even i did see it, no abilities in game should hit 20k damage with just one mouse click.

    so stop defend a unbalanced game.
  • Destruent
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    Destruent wrote: »
    I know that dodge is not the ultimate counter to everything, but you play full heavy, what about blocking/reflecting? ever heard of this? sry, but every time i see a overload-spamming sorc i'm happy bc i found more or less free AP...

    cant you just read what i wrote earlier? i said he sniped me from behind..didnt even see him cast it.

    even i did see it, no abilities in game should hit 20k damage with just one mouse click.

    so stop defend a unbalanced game.

    I'm pretty sure, if you've recognized him it would have been an easy kill...he specced for full burst, and he won...
    put him under pressure and you'll win that fight...
    overload IS pretty balanced atm, bc it hits hard but is easy to counter for all builds.
    Noobplar
  • Qbiken
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    Destruent wrote: »
    Destruent wrote: »
    I know that dodge is not the ultimate counter to everything, but you play full heavy, what about blocking/reflecting? ever heard of this? sry, but every time i see a overload-spamming sorc i'm happy bc i found more or less free AP...

    cant you just read what i wrote earlier? i said he sniped me from behind..didnt even see him cast it.

    even i did see it, no abilities in game should hit 20k damage with just one mouse click.

    so stop defend a unbalanced game.

    I'm pretty sure, if you've recognized him it would have been an easy kill...he specced for full burst, and he won...
    put him under pressure and you'll win that fight...
    overload IS pretty balanced atm, bc it hits hard but is easy to counter for all builds.

    Sorc overload gankbuild 101:
    Spinner+Clever Alchemist+ Kena or Slimecraw

    Combo: Potion (to proc CA) + Radiant Magelight (for empowered hit) + Overload = Big burst damage.
    It´s not very difficult to set up for a burst like this. Also agree it´s fairly balanced since like with most gankbuilds you will be gimped on almost every other aspect. Survive the gank and the ganker is dead 11/10 times...
    Edited by Qbiken on October 2, 2017 9:04AM
  • bardx86
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    here is another proof how balanced this game is.

    so to all skilled ppl in here enlight me how to counter this.

    was running to my base when a sorc sniped me from behind...so pls tell me how to counter..YOU CANT . cause there is no counter play to this ***

    Na4nklT.jpg

    You got hit with a overload? lol
  • Lylith
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    technohic wrote: »
    Been hit by VD a couple times like that without being in a Zerg. Was coming up over stairs or hill and some dieing *** runs right to me. I try to figure out people who are pressured that run toward friendlys even if they're in stealth.

    they run toward forward camps, too, i don't know why.

    damnedest thing.
  • Zbigb4life
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    Blanco wrote: »
    You die a lot don't you

    And you don't?
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    I wonder when the stamina version of VD will come. Oh no I can hear all mag users already complaining...
  • Azurya
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    this is just another nerf this and that thread
    NO NEED FOR THAT!
  • gammelscroll
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    Azurya wrote: »
    this is just another nerf this and that thread
    NO NEED FOR THAT!

    ok. So you think its ok being hit with 40k dmg with 2 mouse click...like light attacks?

    give melee also overload light attack so i can run around 1 shot players with 1 mouse click
  • technohic
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    Azurya wrote: »
    this is just another nerf this and that thread
    NO NEED FOR THAT!

    ok. So you think its ok being hit with 40k dmg with 2 mouse click...like light attacks?

    give melee also overload light attack so i can run around 1 shot players with 1 mouse click

    I honestly can say I generally have not seen this in death recaps to be a problem. Biggest hits I seen have been from emperors and at that I say; oh well. I am trying to figure out what you are doing to run into this so often.
  • Biro123
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    Azurya wrote: »
    this is just another nerf this and that thread
    NO NEED FOR THAT!

    ok. So you think its ok being hit with 40k dmg with 2 mouse click...like light attacks?

    give melee also overload light attack so i can run around 1 shot players with 1 mouse click

    Roll sorc and you can use it from any range.... Then you too can one-shot noobs with one click.
    Let me know how that goes.
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    technohic wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    this is just another nerf this and that thread
    NO NEED FOR THAT!

    ok. So you think its ok being hit with 40k dmg with 2 mouse click...like light attacks?

    give melee also overload light attack so i can run around 1 shot players with 1 mouse click

    I honestly can say I generally have not seen this in death recaps to be a problem. Biggest hits I seen have been from emperors and at that I say; oh well. I am trying to figure out what you are doing to run into this so often.

    He's in a BG - the enemy probably has a dmg sigil
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    Thogard wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    this is just another nerf this and that thread
    NO NEED FOR THAT!

    ok. So you think its ok being hit with 40k dmg with 2 mouse click...like light attacks?

    give melee also overload light attack so i can run around 1 shot players with 1 mouse click

    I honestly can say I generally have not seen this in death recaps to be a problem. Biggest hits I seen have been from emperors and at that I say; oh well. I am trying to figure out what you are doing to run into this so often.

    He's in a BG - the enemy probably has a dmg sigil

    They most definitely did. I hate that gd sigil
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  • technohic
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    Thogard wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Azurya wrote: »
    this is just another nerf this and that thread
    NO NEED FOR THAT!

    ok. So you think its ok being hit with 40k dmg with 2 mouse click...like light attacks?

    give melee also overload light attack so i can run around 1 shot players with 1 mouse click

    I honestly can say I generally have not seen this in death recaps to be a problem. Biggest hits I seen have been from emperors and at that I say; oh well. I am trying to figure out what you are doing to run into this so often.

    He's in a BG - the enemy probably has a dmg sigil

    Ahh. To that I say that sucks but it's a design not balance issue.
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