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PTS Update 16 - Feedback Thread for Transmutation

ZOS_GinaBruno
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Community Manager
This is the official feedback thread for Transmutation. Specific feedback that the team is looking for includes the following:
  • Were you able to easily find the Transmutation Station?
  • Did you successfully obtain the new currency, Transmutation Crystals?
  • Was the interface easy to understand when transmutating a piece of equipment?
  • Was it clear that you needed to have your target trait researched?
  • Did you purchase a Transmutation Station from the Master Writ Merchant to put in your home?
  • Was it clear when an item had been successfully transmutated?
  • Do you have any other general feedback?
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  • Nestor
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    I have not played the PTS yet, but this patch note concerns me:

    Transmute Crystals are an account wide, capped currency which cannot be banked or traded.

    What if our crafter, who knows the traits, is not the one who runs the dungeons? Are we going to be required to learn traits on our non crafting characters in order to transmute?

    EDIT Dev Response Below
    The Transmute Crystal is an account-wide currency, and can be used by any character on your account. If your crafting character is not the same as the one with a piece of equipment you wish to transmute, you can transfer the item to them, change the trait, and pass it back through your bank.




    Edited by Nestor on September 18, 2017 10:12PM
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  • Joshua261
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I have not played the PTS yet, but this patch note concerns me:

    Transmute Crystals are an account wide, capped currency which cannot be banked or traded.

    What if our crafter, who knows the traits, is not the one who runs the dungeons? Are we going to be required to learn traits on our non crafting characters in order to transmute?


    I have to agree with this. My crafter is just that, i don't do any dungeons or trials on him and this could cause some serious issues.
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  • OdinForge
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I have not played the PTS yet, but this patch note concerns me:

    Transmute Crystals are an account wide, capped currency which cannot be banked or traded.

    What if our crafter, who knows the traits, is not the one who runs the dungeons? Are we going to be required to learn traits on our non crafting characters in order to transmute?


    This is a hefty concern of mine too, only one character knows all traits. I play a lot of characters at this point that will undoubtedly gain these crystals, without the ability to bank them it's wasted space and potential. I don't play my crafting toon every time I sign in.

    Waiting to hear what they and others say about this, as I was looking forward to this system for a long time.
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  • Moloch1514
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    Definitely need a clarification on this question @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom!
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  • BrightOblivion
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    That is indeed concerning.

    Also, can anyone on PTS tell us how many crystals it takes for a trait change?

    And can @ZOS_GinaBruno define "occasionally" in this instance? Because that's incredibly vague.
  • clocksstoppe
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    Can you buy these crystals with tel var?
  • OdinForge
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    @Enodoc mentioned they might be account wide like crowns, so they cannot be banked but you'd be able to use them on any character anyway.

    If that's the case then I am relieved and looking forward to the system.
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  • Eddyble
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    Perhaps its a currency similar to crowns, a category of its own in a separate or new part of the ui? I'm at work and will DL PTS this evening but couldn't resist checking notes. As others have said, this could benefit from more detail please.
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  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    So do these not go into the crafting bag?
  • MLGProPlayer
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I have not played the PTS yet, but this patch note concerns me:

    Transmute Crystals are an account wide, capped currency which cannot be banked or traded.

    What if our crafter, who knows the traits, is not the one who runs the dungeons? Are we going to be required to learn traits on our non crafting characters in order to transmute?

    I take it "account wide" means they will be accessible from any character.
    Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 18, 2017 7:44PM
  • cjhhickman39
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    I do have a problem with the mechanics of this and will probably be in the minority, but in keeping with the crafting requirements when you research an unknown trait you destroy the equipment.
    So the requirements to retrait should be to know the traits being removed and added or there would be a risk of the equipment being destroyed
  • Thestephenmcraeub17_ESO
    It sounds to me like they exist on your account like crowns, which also can't be banked or traded, but as long as you earn them on one character, your other characters will have access to them (again, like crowns). It doesn't make sense to limit the availability of stones just to those characters who run the veteran content, as many players have dedicated crafters who don't run veteran content.
  • eso_nya
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    Were you able to easily find the Transmutation Station?
    - Yes. The one in CWC aswell as the one on Rolis.

    Did you successfully obtain the new currency, Transmutation Crystals?
    - No. Didnt try yet, also was at 199/200 on template char.

    Was the interface easy to understand when transmutating a piece of equipment?
    - Yes.

    Was it clear that you needed to have your target trait researched?
    - Yes. But i knew that already, and would have assumed it.

    Did you purchase a Transmutation Station from the Master Writ Merchant to put in your home?
    - No. My "NA"-chars seem to be homeless ;)

    Was it clear when an item had been successfully transmutated?
    - Yes.

    Do you have any other general feedback?

    - The currency cap feels to low, compared on how much a transmuttion costs (max 5 itmes in a row).

    - The Station from Rolis feels far to expensive, judged by "how much time will it save me to travel to my home instead of to cwc" and "how long will it take me to get 1250 vouchers".

    - The price for transmuting and the currency feel...wrong and exploitable. It feels to easy to transmute a bunch of trash-items to nirnhoned to sell for research. Edit: stuff gets bound on transmute, so that wont work. Otoh, it costs 40/200 per transmutation, not being able to transmute a full gearset in a row, doesnt feel right either. Also, with a cap inplace, it feels like u have to transmute items every once in a while, so u dont waste stones, even if u dont need to.

    Edited by eso_nya on September 19, 2017 9:53AM
  • Teridaxus
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    Can you buy these crystals with tel var?

    That would be an awesome idea!
  • Astraous
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I have not played the PTS yet, but this patch note concerns me:

    Transmute Crystals are an account wide, capped currency which cannot be banked or traded.

    What if our crafter, who knows the traits, is not the one who runs the dungeons? Are we going to be required to learn traits on our non crafting characters in order to transmute?


    You quoted account-wide and yet somehow ignored it.

    The implication of something being account-wide is that it can be accessed by your entire account.

    Mounts are account-wide, costumes are account-wide, crowns are account-wide, why do you think this means anything other than what it said? Of course you won't have to learn the traits on other characters because you can just use the account-wide currency on your crafter.

    This isn't just a reply to you but almost the entire front page that seemed to forget what that term meant.
  • Brrrofski
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    Astraous wrote: »
    Nestor wrote: »
    I have not played the PTS yet, but this patch note concerns me:

    Transmute Crystals are an account wide, capped currency which cannot be banked or traded.

    What if our crafter, who knows the traits, is not the one who runs the dungeons? Are we going to be required to learn traits on our non crafting characters in order to transmute?


    You quoted account-wide and yet somehow ignored it.

    The implication of something being account-wide is that it can be accessed by your entire account.

    Mounts are account-wide, costumes are account-wide, crowns are account-wide, why do you think this means anything other than what it said? Of course you won't have to learn the traits on other characters because you can just use the account-wide currency on your crafter.

    This isn't just a reply to you but almost the entire front page that seemed to forget what that term meant.

    I mean, what you say makes sense. It is confusing the way it's worded. It must act like crowns rather than AP or master writs (which are account wide by being bankable).
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Nestor wrote: »
    I have not played the PTS yet, but this patch note concerns me:

    Transmute Crystals are an account wide, capped currency which cannot be banked or traded.

    What if our crafter, who knows the traits, is not the one who runs the dungeons? Are we going to be required to learn traits on our non crafting characters in order to transmute?


    it really does read as if these are somehow locked to a specific character but it also says account wide without any clarification....perhaps words aren't what's needed but patch notes should use pictures and gifs @ZOS_GinaBruno
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  • Nestor
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    Astraous wrote: »

    You quoted account-wide and yet somehow ignored it.

    The implication of something being account-wide is that it can be accessed by your entire account.

    One would hope that is what it means.

    However, no currency in the game can be used by a character, unless that currency is in the character's inventory. Crowns are the only exception, but these are not something that is earned in the game, but paid for in an interface outside of the game then applied to the account.

    So, some clarification is needed on this statement me and other people are concerned about.

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  • Astraous
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    Nestor wrote: »
    Astraous wrote: »

    You quoted account-wide and yet somehow ignored it.

    The implication of something being account-wide is that it can be accessed by your entire account.

    One would hope that is what it means.

    However, no currency in the game can be used by a character, unless that currency is in the character's inventory. Crowns are the only exception, but these are not something that is earned in the game, but paid for in an interface outside of the game then applied to the account.

    So, some clarification is needed on this statement me and other people are concerned about.

    No other currency is defined as account-wide.
  • ZOS_Bel_Shezzar
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    The Transmute Crystal is an account-wide currency, and can be used by any character on your account. If your crafting character is not the same as the one with a piece of equipment you wish to transmute, you can transfer the item to them, change the trait, and pass it back through your bank.
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  • Rex-Umbra
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    Why can't we transmute the style?
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  • Nestor
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    The Transmute Crystal is an account-wide currency, and can be used by any character on your account. If your crafting character is not the same as the one with a piece of equipment you wish to transmute, you can transfer the item to them, change the trait, and pass it back through your bank.

    Thank you for the clarification.
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  • MissBizz
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Why can't we transmute the style?

    @Rex-Umbra That's transmog, and is said to being worked on and will come in a later update. They are different systems.
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  • Jaeysa
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    Question for those on PTS - does transmuting an item bind it to you?
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  • code65536
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    eso_nya wrote: »
    It feels to easy to transmute a bunch of trash-items to nirnhoned to sell for research.
    Transmuted items are bound, so not sellable. They are also not researchable. Although I didn't try it yet, I suspect that a transmuted-to-Nirnhoned item will not yield Nirncrux upon decon.

    Transmutation applies an overriding trait to the item--it does not alter the underlying item trait (which would require altering the item ID).

    Jaeysa wrote: »
    Question for those on PTS - does transmuting an item bind it to you?
    Yes.
    Edited by code65536 on September 18, 2017 10:26PM
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  • code65536
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    So, on the PTS, I noticed that the UI for my transmutation crystals said "xxx/200".

    Why is the "/200" there? Is that a limit on the number of crystals that we can have? If so, why would such a limit exist, esp. when it costs 40 gems to transmute an item? We can only save up enough to transmute 5 items?!
    Edited by code65536 on September 18, 2017 10:21PM
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  • majulook
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    1. Transmuting on PTS requires 40 of the transmutation crystals per item you wan to transmute.

    2. The transmutation process make the item bound to you.
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  • Marto
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    1250 vouchers...?

    Please tell me I read that wrong.

    That is EXTREMELY restrictive to those that cannot or do not want to get the DLC.
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  • NyassaV
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    WHY DOES IT TAKE 40 TO RETRAIT!!! That is way to much, can we cut it down to 20, even then that is still a lot. Otherwise why the hell are these crystals stuck to our character? Many people's crafters are Just the first character they made and never really use
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  • sevomd69
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    Hollery wrote: »
    WHY DOES IT TAKE 40 TO RETRAIT!!! That is way to much, can we cut it down to 20, even then that is still a lot. Otherwise why the hell are these crystals stuck to our character? Many people's crafters are Just the first character they made and never really use

    Any of your characters can use the crystals...
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