Spinner's Vs War-Maiden for PvP?

NightbladeMechanics · July 2017

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

With Spinner's you only get a marginal increase in damage over War Maiden (like really marginal). So I'd go for War Maiden.

Necro is a couple hundred damage more than Maiden on my Concealed weapons, and Spinner is like 400 more than Necro.

Keep in mind that because penetration amplifies damage multiplicatively, high base damage builds will see more return from Spinner than low base damage builds. My build runs about 2k regen, 2100 unbuffed spell damage, and 44k magicka with Necro, or slightly more spell damage and about 39k magicka with Spinner.

DeHei · July 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

IzakiBrotherSs wrote: »

With Spinner's you only get a marginal increase in damage over War Maiden (like really marginal). So I'd go for War Maiden.

Necro is a couple hundred damage more than Maiden on my Concealed weapons, and Spinner is like 400 more than Necro.

Keep in mind that because penetration amplifies damage multiplicatively, high base damage builds will see more return from Spinner than low base damage builds. My build runs about 2k regen, 2100 unbuffed spell damage, and 44k magicka with Necro, or slightly more spell damage and about 39k magicka with Spinner.

Ok i should test Spinners with channeled attacks again

Lord-Otto · July 2017

Honestly, the damage results are close enough to be insignificant. What's 400 points of damage really gonna do?

You better pick your damage set by its gimmick.

Spinner helps against heavy armor and armor buffs, but not medium, light and shields.

War Maiden is easy to set up, but it limits your skill choice.

Necro is really tough to set up, especially on non-NBs. But it gives solid damage, bigger shields and more sustain through higher pool.

Julianos is available, that's it. It's a shame crit damage is so unbalanced between PvE and PvP.

Derra · July 2017

NightbladeMechanics wrote: »

Mkay the testing is done.

Spinner remains the highest damage, but its 5pc won't work on shields, naturally. I'm using this now. You will get under a sorc or Harness user's shields with proper play, and when you do, Spinner is your highest burst to one shot them in a cc. Spinner will be a noticeable damage increase without drawback against anyone not outright spamming shields in your face.

You should be fair and mention that spinner will do exactly nothing against someone in light armor not using an armor buff - which may be quite a subtential amount of sorcs throwing shields in your face.

Generally speaking for singletarget dmg nothing i´ve ever tested beats spinner + charged + shock enchantment (not even bsw pre nerf).

Also necro is only ahead of warmaiden for cp pvp. NonCP the 20% statloss make necro really undesireable.

Rianai · July 2017

Even in no cp pvp necro provides slightly more dmg than war maiden.