First, you're trying to apply intuition to ZoS's design intent. Good luck with that. (That's on them, not you, btw.)First of all "magicka abilities" suggests and ability that costs magicka right? So this would assume this affects lightning/fire/cold AND magical damage correct?
Sounds like you already have your answer. If you're detected, you're no longer stealthed...Some may say I break stealth when I cast the ability. True it does say "detected" as soon as the cast ends, however pre-patch this was not an issue the Stygian buff was being applied regardless in all my testing over many various skills.
Merlin13KAGL wrote: »First, you're trying to apply intuition to ZoS's design intent. Good luck with that. (That's on them, not you, btw.)First of all "magicka abilities" suggests and ability that costs magicka right? So this would assume this affects lightning/fire/cold AND magical damage correct?
Second, yes and no.
By the wording, it should apply to abilities that cost magicka which is not the same as abilities/effects that cause magical damage.
So, Ult's, for instance would be unaffected (they cost zero magicka), as would light and heavy attacks, glyph procs, set procs, etc.Sounds like you already have your answer. If you're detected, you're no longer stealthed...Some may say I break stealth when I cast the ability. True it does say "detected" as soon as the cast ends, however pre-patch this was not an issue the Stygian buff was being applied regardless in all my testing over many various skills.
"pre-patch" results don't matter. Sometimes, by accident, they actually fix things to work as (actually) intended.
Pre-patch, the buff was already present prior to casting anything. Post patch, such is no longer the case.
PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »Does dark flare take you out of crouch? For instance, drain essence does not take you out of crouch. My guess is outside of invisibility, the initial damage is buffed by Stygian. With invisibility, magicka abilities will all be buffed by it.
Exceptions might be nightblade skills, but my guess is that magicka skills for other classes that pull you out of crouch apply damage after getting out of crouch. Probably could test now that the other stealth bonuses are gone in this update.
PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »Does dark flare take you out of crouch? For instance, drain essence does not take you out of crouch. My guess is outside of invisibility, the initial damage is buffed by Stygian. With invisibility, magicka abilities will all be buffed by it.
Exceptions might be nightblade skills, but my guess is that magicka skills for other classes that pull you out of crouch apply damage after getting out of crouch. Probably could test now that the other stealth bonuses are gone in this update.
Thats how it used to work, it would say detected as the cast fired, but would still buff your damage.
However this patch, from my testing, caster skills like Dark Flare, Crystal Frag etc.. still say detected when fired but this time the stygian buff is not applied.
So I wonder if this was intended or not, as it severely limits the sets capabilities, it is primarily a gank set after all.