Leveling Mages Guild

Duece09 · March 2017

I recently leveled up a sorc, and I have to say, leveling up the mages guild skill line is one of the most agonizing things I've ever done in a video game. The fighters guild wasn't that bad, as at least you got to play the game. Doing Delves, Anchors, etc... However, other than the actual story line, literally all you do is find books...."BORING". Don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading some of them and getting some interesting lore along the way, but this being the ONLY way to level up the guild is, like I said, agonizing. I get it, you level up fighters guild by, well, fighting daedra, doing anchors, actually "fighting". Level Up Mages guild requires knowledge and such, so I get it and I understand what they were going for....BUT!!!! I guess it wouldn't be that bad if you were just playing through the game and organically coming across them. But when I'm power leveling a character and trying to level up the mages guild just literally going from zone to zone only to find books can be freaking boring as all get out. I guess, that comes with the territory when you power level. Like I said, at least with fighters guild you can level by actually doing stuff, and playing the game.

Sorry, I'm doing this as we speak and just had to rant

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · March 2017

Yes, it's boring. However, it only takes a couple of hours.

SaRuZ · March 2017

It is tedious af. I spent two days power leveling MG for meteor, I followed an accurate guide too. Thankfully I had collected a fair amount of books so I could just pick up a conpleted set for increased XP(3/5 Sheogorath's How-To's etc)

That being said, I will never do what I have done with my main, EVER AGAIN(Collect all Skyshards, Complete main quest, max all crafts, max all skill lines) I am good on that!

Enodoc · March 2017

Duece09 wrote: »

However, other than the actual story line, literally all you do is find books...."BORING". [...] but this being the ONLY way to level up the guild is, like I said, agonizing. [...] just literally going from zone to zone only to find books can be freaking boring as all get out.

And the dailies. Don't forget the dailies. Each daily is worth 2 lorebooks, and if you share the quests within a group you can potentially do all 15 every day, for a total of 150 Rep. By doing this alone you can get to Mages Guild Rank 10 in just over a week, and never have to touch a lorebook.

drakhan2002_ESO · March 2017

Just get your "Lorebooks" addon if you're on PC and it takes no time...just a lot of running around.

Nestor · March 2017

Thing is, the pressing need to get to 10 is kind of gone now, as Meteor, while still a decent Ultimate is nowhere near as good as the Destro Staff Ultimate. You really only need to get the Mages guild to 4 now for Entropy. Anything beyond that is not all that useful a skill to have and one has the potential to flat out kill you if you use it wrong.

Even then, getting the mages to 10 is just a few hours with a good map or add on.

Duece09 · March 2017

drakhan2002_ESO wrote: »

Just get your "Lorebooks" addon if you're on PC and it takes no time...just a lot of running around.

unfortunetly I don't have access to add-ons as I'm on PS4.

Duece09 · March 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Thing is, the pressing need to get to 10 is kind of gone now, as Meteor, while still a decent Ultimate is nowhere near as good as the Destro Staff Ultimate. You really only need to get the Mages guild to 4 now for Entropy. Anything beyond that is not all that useful a skill to have and one has the potential to flat out kill you if you use it wrong.

Even then, getting the mages to 10 is just a few hours with a good map or add on.

As far as I've seen and the research I've done on sorcs with many different opinions on the matter, destro staff ultimate fiery rage is great for AOE situations, and Meteor is probably the best sorc ultimate for single target. Which is why I'm going for that.

Nestor · March 2017

Duece09 wrote: »

As far as I've seen and the research I've done on sorcs with many different opinions on the matter, destro staff ultimate fiery rage is great for AOE situations, and Meteor is probably the best sorc ultimate for single target. Which is why I'm going for that.

They are both AoE's.

I really think your going to be disappointed in what Meteor does for you as compared to Elemental Rage. I never use Meteor anymore. Tell you what, your the one chasing it, as I already have the Ultimate on all my characters, let us know once you get it how it works for you as compared to the Destro Staff Ultimate once you get both. Note I am referring to the ranged Elemental Rage.

Now, Rage can be an issue if people kite the boss out of the effect, but the same thing can happen to Meteor too.

DMuehlhausen · March 2017

Feel lucky. At launch reading the lorebooks was the only way you could level Mage Guild.

Shad0wfire99 · March 2017

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

Yes, it's boring. However, it only takes a couple of hours.

Couple of hours my ass.

Inhuman003 · March 2017

book finder look books, books and more books to find hahaha

Duece09 · March 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Duece09 wrote: »

As far as I've seen and the research I've done on sorcs with many different opinions on the matter, destro staff ultimate fiery rage is great for AOE situations, and Meteor is probably the best sorc ultimate for single target. Which is why I'm going for that.

They are both AoE's.

I really think your going to be disappointed in what Meteor does for you as compared to Elemental Rage. I never use Meteor anymore. Tell you what, your the one chasing it, as I already have the Ultimate on all my characters, let us know once you get it how it works for you as compared to the Destro Staff Ultimate once you get both. Note I am referring to the ranged Elemental Rage.

Now, Rage can be an issue if people kite the boss out of the effect, but the same thing can happen to Meteor too.

Ok, I'm not pretending to be any sort of expert as I'm only CP 275 and some what of a casual player. I'm just basing my information from people like Alcast, Deltia and other well known players, more specially sorc players (lets not get into the deltia debate here). I just noticed most of them run elemental rage on one bar, and meteor on the other because they say single target meteor is better then elemental rage . The only other ultimate I've seen used on a regular basis is overload. So, if not meteor what do you suggest?

waitwhat · November 2017

Duece09 wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Duece09 wrote: »

As far as I've seen and the research I've done on sorcs with many different opinions on the matter, destro staff ultimate fiery rage is great for AOE situations, and Meteor is probably the best sorc ultimate for single target. Which is why I'm going for that.

They are both AoE's.

I really think your going to be disappointed in what Meteor does for you as compared to Elemental Rage. I never use Meteor anymore. Tell you what, your the one chasing it, as I already have the Ultimate on all my characters, let us know once you get it how it works for you as compared to the Destro Staff Ultimate once you get both. Note I am referring to the ranged Elemental Rage.

Now, Rage can be an issue if people kite the boss out of the effect, but the same thing can happen to Meteor too.

Ok, I'm not pretending to be any sort of expert as I'm only CP 275 and some what of a casual player. I'm just basing my information from people like Alcast, Deltia and other well known players, more specially sorc players (lets not get into the deltia debate here). I just noticed most of them run elemental rage on one bar, and meteor on the other because they say single target meteor is better then elemental rage . The only other ultimate I've seen used on a regular basis is overload. So, if not meteor what do you suggest?

Apologies for the necro-ish post, but the answer to this seems to be that you'll almost always pop thunderous rage, but meteor is best for the front bar because of the mages guild passive that adds to your max magicia. For a sorc, particularly a pet sorc, this is better that double slotting thunderous rage. Thunderous rage under current patch will still almost always output more total damage than meteor on a sorc, given that it has an extended duration, receives several percentage based damage bonuses, and has a much larger radius. It just doesn't do as much up front and it doesn't mass-cc.

waitwhat · November 2017

Also do note that you get a lot of bonus mage's guild rep for completing a collection listed in the Journal section, so start off by grabbing all 10 books unique to a zone rather than attempting to chase down all the possible books in one zone.

Shadzilla · November 2017

Nestor wrote: »

Duece09 wrote: »

As far as I've seen and the research I've done on sorcs with many different opinions on the matter, destro staff ultimate fiery rage is great for AOE situations, and Meteor is probably the best sorc ultimate for single target. Which is why I'm going for that.

They are both AoE's.

I really think your going to be disappointed in what Meteor does for you as compared to Elemental Rage. I never use Meteor anymore. Tell you what, your the one chasing it, as I already have the Ultimate on all my characters, let us know once you get it how it works for you as compared to the Destro Staff Ultimate once you get both. Note I am referring to the ranged Elemental Rage.

Now, Rage can be an issue if people kite the boss out of the effect, but the same thing can happen to Meteor too.

Meteor is a better single target ult for long fights where you are using multiple ults. The damage output for a single ult cast destro comes out on top, but when you factor in the lower cost on meteor it starts to out perform destro in a longer fight. The norm is to have your ult saved up and pop a destro near the start of the fight, then pop meteors from then on out. Plus the extra max magicka with meteor is a bonus.

Shadzilla · November 2017

I do this for every alt, and it is sooooooo not fun at all. Could not imagine doing it without addons, you console players are so cray cray its not even funny.

Fellenore_Ewalion · November 2017

Oh boi. You couldn't even get MG10 until lvl45 back then when Meteor was a badass ulti. Now it's just nice in choke points and for its passives.

As for FG leveling, I don't get your point. That's still a pain in the clouds. You have to farm a decent amount to get that.

Blackbird_V · November 2017

Before one-tamriel it was harder lol, having to go into cadwell gold zones, fighting mobs tougher than you..
Agreed though, but not as annoying as getting caltrops if you suck at pvp like i do.

waitwhat · November 2017

Valkyn_Eltrys wrote: »

Before one-tamriel it was harder lol, having to go into cadwell gold zones, fighting mobs tougher than you..
Agreed though, but not as annoying as getting caltrops if you suck at pvp like i do.

Repair castles plz. Back keeps need some luv (AD only).

If that fails, slot a resto and Zerg it up.

Adremal · January 2022

If you're in organized guild you can gather people who need to level MG, rotate the dailies and level it up real fast, getting 1 skill point and 1 shard along the way too which really helps with alts (especially if you powerlevel alts and they thus hit 50 with little skill points). I'll take MG over Psijic anytime.

Shadzilla wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Duece09 wrote: »

As far as I've seen and the research I've done on sorcs with many different opinions on the matter, destro staff ultimate fiery rage is great for AOE situations, and Meteor is probably the best sorc ultimate for single target. Which is why I'm going for that.

They are both AoE's.

I really think your going to be disappointed in what Meteor does for you as compared to Elemental Rage. I never use Meteor anymore. Tell you what, your the one chasing it, as I already have the Ultimate on all my characters, let us know once you get it how it works for you as compared to the Destro Staff Ultimate once you get both. Note I am referring to the ranged Elemental Rage.

Now, Rage can be an issue if people kite the boss out of the effect, but the same thing can happen to Meteor too.

Meteor is a better single target ult for long fights where you are using multiple ults. The damage output for a single ult cast destro comes out on top, but when you factor in the lower cost on meteor it starts to out perform destro in a longer fight. The norm is to have your ult saved up and pop a destro near the start of the fight, then pop meteors from then on out. Plus the extra max magicka with meteor is a bonus.

Shooting Star can also be spammed a ridiculous amount of times on trash mobs and be still ready for bosses, really speeds things up.

Sylvermynx · January 2022

Wow.... four year necro here.

Snamyap · January 2022

This was a four year plus necro...

ZOS_Exile · January 2022

Greetings,

We have closed this topic as the last comment was made in November 2017. In many cases, it's better to create a new thread on a topic that you want to discuss as opposed to bumping one that is rather old.

Thank you for your understanding.